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Facebook in Talks With Apple to Bring 'Home' to iPhone
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The day this (facebook that is) happens is the day I'll sell all my Apple stock, seriously.
I don't think it's going to though, I think Apple's DNA is sufficiently ingrained in Apple's top brass to prevent it.
Facebook Home has all sorts of benefits... for Facebook. For users, it's likely going to be super annoying, and for whoever puts that stuff on their phone it's going to move eyeballs away from them (Google, Samsung).
In some ways Facebook Home is what the carriers always wanted to do but never figured out how: To immerse their customers completely in their own brand. With just enough ways out to not make it seem that way - e.g. the app launcher - and just enough friction for actually getting out that people would rather not bother (also the app launcher).
Facebook is a brand that wants to be my life. No thanks to that. I am actually happy to use it, but I like it in its own little box, a sort of personal news feed with lots people on it that I don't see very often. Or to watch friends photos.
FB messaging, on the other hand, is one of those things again that I see absolutely no reason for using. It's less powerful than email, and less flexible, and everything goes through FB for no reason at all.
I would not mind it on the lockscreen of my iPad but that's about it. I've installed an unofficial build of Home on my SG3 and I deleted it after about 15 minutes. It works but it's absolutely superfluous and I think it eats a lot of battery and data. I do like the chatheads of Messenger a lot!
I'm not sure about that. I mean his skeuomorphism was rampant during Jobs' reign but he never did damage the likes of iOS 6 while he was alive.
Remember the mercy he showed the MobileMe team?
Myspace died because of Facebook.
In other words... something else came along that people ended up using instead of Myspace.
The only credible threat would be Google+ but that's clearly not posing a challenge to Facebook.
There is talk that teens are leaving Facebook and moving to Instagram and Tumblr... but there is still a healthy amount of people sticking with Facebook.
So much so that no one is trying to build a "Facebook Killer" anymore. Companies realize it's more important to have a page on Facebook than try to compete with Facebook.
I could not care less
I want a polished general iOS experience. I want a beautiful phone, OS, and Apps and get stuff done. I have a life, I do not publish my whole life online. Yes, I'm not a Facebook fan, ... at all. I did not even enable Facebook integration in current iOS as it said it will sync my address book with Facebook. Of course I do not want some random fluff mess up or publish all my (business) contacts, ...
Can we get back to real, innovative news?
I want a polished general iOS experience. I want a beautiful phone, OS, and Apps and get stuff done. I have a life, I do not publish my whole life online. Yes, I'm not a Facebook fan, ... at all. I did not even enable Facebook integration in current iOS as it said it will sync my address book with Facebook. Of course I do not want some random fluff mess up or publish all my (business) contacts, ...
Can we get back to real, innovative news?
BS.
There are a lot of things Apple could do to sell more devices, widgets, a model with larger screen, etc. None of them have been implemented.
Apple is not going to let Facebook take over the home screen in any way shape or form.
It could also be that people get bored and annoyed with publishing their whole life online, even providing governments with all that data to spy and track us.
Maybe people eventually get back to have a real life and such, ...
You should have quoted the sentence after that when I said "there is still a healthy amount of people sticking with Facebook." People seem to like it... Facebook is as busy as ever.
Google+ is no different... it's basically the same service. Some people post stuff and other people see it.
You're right... real life is great. And people take pics of real life and share them. That behavior is not gonna stop anytime soon.
While I'm not really interested in Facebook Home, the ability for apps to replace the default home-screen would be great, and widget style apps is something I'd very much like to see for providing supplementary data over other apps; with appropriate restrictions of course.
If Apple does this, I'll just start decrypting the OS images, removing the home ********, then releasing them online...
By something else you mean... like people realising that they actually have lives outside of Facebook?
Twitter is a pretty fierce competitor to Facebook if you want a social media platform, if you use it 'right' then you don't need Facebook. The Google+ thing never really washed with me, it felt more imposed like Google was using it's customer base and making public profiles for them... opposed to people choosing to use +.
Facebook still has a healthy user base but it's not going to last forever. Recently all they seem to be capable of doing is declining on the stock market (not considering the boost from Android Home) and raising privacy concerns.
As for Facebook as a company marketing platform, it's not that great. I run several branded company pages with European reach across a range of Social Media - typically Twitter comes in top, followed by Facebook (over 40% down), LinkedIn, etc etc
From a user perspective no-one likes ads either and that seems to be a movement they like the idea of, as well as out of social circle charging for messages.
In my opinion the signs of a death to become are starting to show themselves. Someone's going to come along eventually and say screw ads, charging for messages, x, y, z etc and do it better.
I usually do not "share" real life photos on Facebook, sharing photos with parents and friends is as easy as sending an email, ... On Facebook? I would need to make sure I have fine grained access control lists to make sure only close friends see the hanging around on a beach holiday pictures. In contrast to all colleagues business contacts see all of that too. Yes, some people do this, until they get fired due a Facebook picture, ... And then the ever changing Facebook security setting stuff for sure renders your tested access control lists dysfunctional another week or months, ...
I read about exactly what data they collect from it before turning it on.
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Hell no! FB is probably one of the most disliked apps from major developer on Google Play Store as its having astonishing amount of one-star reviews. If Android crowd hates it then why on earth would iOS users like it? Now FB wants to have the same crap one on iOS?!? I truly hope Apple has good sense of telling FB to bury that monstrosity to somewhere the sun don't shine.
Oh hell no!
Given that Facebook is yet to make a single stable version of their Facebook app for iOS, the last thing I want is their creating Facebook Home for iOS. I'd not been keen to reboot my phone on a regular basis because the damned Facebook Home app has crashed yet again.
That being said, the concept of a people-centric interface as used in Facebook Home (and Windows Phone 7-8) are certainly interesting, just not when developed by crap programmers.
Given that Facebook is yet to make a single stable version of their Facebook app for iOS, the last thing I want is their creating Facebook Home for iOS. I'd not been keen to reboot my phone on a regular basis because the damned Facebook Home app has crashed yet again.
That being said, the concept of a people-centric interface as used in Facebook Home (and Windows Phone 7-8) are certainly interesting, just not when developed by crap programmers.
Civility in discourse is just something that not everyone either wants or knows how to promote, it's very sad. I've certainly noticed it on MacRumors - not sure it's specific to this site or it's a more general problem associated with social networking that since you can't see the person you're talking to, respect and manners are something that some feel are not required.
I agree with you about FaceBook, and I especially like the term "celebrity effect" and agree with that concept completely. I like FaceBook, it provides me with a way to keep in touch with friends and family around the world (I'm an expat and a lot of my family and friends are in the US), so for me FaceBook is great, but as you say, a lot of the posts are not very interesting to say the least. Despite my liking FaceBook, the last thing I want or need is easier access to it.
I'm already convinced that if you were to approach a random woman on the street pushing her baby in a stroller while using her phone and demand she give up either her baby or her phone, she'd throw her baby at you to distract you so she could run away with the real possession of hers that she considers precious (her phone) - something like 'Home' appeals to people like that I think.
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