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For all we know the CEO of Yahoo (who is also on other companies' boards of directors) is probably too busy with those companies to care about Yahoo?

And are you trying to say Yahoo is sad because its social engineers didn't think of the feature for their programmers to implement first?
Don't tell me you actually like Yahoo?
 
Ugh, seeing the WhatsApp logo there makes me want to delete it right away.

Get you and your friends away from it if you can. If you need a private multi-platform messaging / calling app that is secure but doesn't come from a company that Strip Mines your input and contact list for money - Signal is a good option.

The less entangled you are in their web, the easier it'll be to get out of it. JMHO....

OK, so I can send a message to 1-800-Flowers? What? why? Is this like a central chat hub for all companies? Instead of going on BestBuy.com and finding the chat button, I would chat via Facebook? Why?

Because they can mine that for money. This is all about running everything you do through their environment so they can do just that.
 
Apple still make PCs though. They have moved on to mobile PCs (called iPhones and iPads). Apple has not moved from it's original premise though (making computers). Apple has evolved on it's original premise. Facebook is doing something totally the opposite of it's original premise now though. Not evolving like Apple did.

Apple's additions over the years were never the opposite to Apple core business model (the Apple clones being the exception).

Apple started out as a computer company. Their core business was hardware. Yes, they still make computers and other hardware. But they've been moving away from that for a while now. This became apparent when they changed their name from Apple Computer, Inc. to Apple, Inc. over 9 years ago.

Tim Cook has even said that Apple is no longer a hardware (i.e. computer) company. They want to be a software and services company.

From 2013: http://techcrunch.com/2013/02/12/ti...e-and-services-we-are-not-a-hardware-company/

Once upon a time, Apple was a hardware company that also maintained a software and media ecosystem since it helped drive purchases of Macs, iPods and more. But over the years, the software and services side of the business has become increasingly important, and CEO Tim Cook even went so far as to state out right that Apple is “not a hardware company.” Not once, but twice.

He emphasized last quarter’s revenue from software and services to make his point. Apple made $3.75 billion in revenue from software and services, including sales of Apple apps, iTunes music, subscription service revenues and more. While he said it’s often overlooked as a component of Apple’s overall revenue picture, he also noted that compared to most companies doing software and services exclusively, it’s an incredible number.

“Because we’re not a hardware company,” Cook said, “there are other things we are doing and could do to have revenue and have profit flow.”


This point was re-iterated many times during the Q1 2016 earnings conference call by Tim Cook and CFO Luca Maestri because iPhone sales aren't growing as much as before. They repeatedly talked about how software, content, and services (not computers, not hardware) would be Apple's key profit growth driver for the company going forward.

Their key profit growth driver used to be personal computers. Going forward, it's going to be software and services. If this isn't Apple moving away from their core premise of being a hardware company, then I don't know what is.
 
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Big Brother Book.

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Sorry but I have no interest in this at all. I have a feeling this is the fad of 2016 that all the big companies will show off at their developer conferences but it will garner a collective 'meh' from the general public.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/12/11416472/facebook-messenger-ai-bots-slow-f8-conference

Their key profit growth driver used to be personal computers. Going forward, it's going to be software and services. If this isn't Apple moving away from their core premise of being a hardware company, then I don't know what is.

For Apple to become a software and services company they'd actually have to be good at it and let's face it Apple is much better at hardware than software. Tim and Luca spun a different tune to investors because of slowing iPhone growth, and the belief by some that Apple stock is unfairly valued as a commodity hardware stock. But just throwing up a new slide at earnings time doesn't make Apple a software and services company. Incidentally, Ben Bajarin (Apple/industry analyst) just said he's moving his entire workflow off iWork and over to Office because he feels iWork is a dying product. This is an analyst who is mostly pro-Apple, using Apple hardware but moving to Microsoft for software services. That doesn't give me a lot of confidence in Apple as a software and services company.
 
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I find the most active users on my FB account, are 30 somethings.
Millenials to some extent, as well as boomers.
I'm not a fan, but it's a necessary evil when you do work with companies who equate it Facebook with being social.
 
Facebook = the underbelly of the web. As long as FB's stick is connecting marketers and advertising to users, FB will continue to be non-existent in my life. Chat bots that market and advertise to me? Go away quickly.
 
Because many on here fancy themselves to be counter-culture hipsters, and find anything the masses have adopted revolting. Yet, they are too blind to see that the company they worship is exactly what they purportedly loathe.

Okay, I give up.

Why does every MR member hate Facebook?
 
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I am curious to see if Facebook dies just like AOL did. Personally the FB portal is not for me, but I do find myself missing out on some content from creators I follow on YouTube.

AOL didn't innovate like Facebook does. It really had issues delivering mail properly for years as well.
 
Because it's very popular nowadays to view oneself as the "outsider voice" or one of the few people smart enough to resist this tech intrusion into daily life.

The hilarious thing is that the ones who really are outsiders and resist it are not on the Internet to brag about it. Anyone who thinks they're a rebel against all this technology because they refuse to have a Facebook account or won't download Facebook's latest app is deeply, irrevocably delusional.

Really want to be a rebel? Toss your PC out the windows, cut the Internet cable and bury your cell phone in the backyard. Then you can beat your chest and lead your legions of Luddites into battle.

Until then, I wish they would spare the rest of us the attitude.
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So right,
They are rebels without cause,mdesperate to be celebrate for resisting the urge to join FB. They'd like you to see them as outstanding geniuses whose willpower exceeds that of the millions on FB. Their hypocrisy stinks; they may not be on FB but you will find them burning much time on other mundane economically unproductive activities like football or even MacRumors:)

I joined FB for about a year and then I left. All I have is my Messenger on for catching up with my clients and some buddies. But you won't catch me dead gloating over it. I'm also not on Reddit and I don't think of it as any particular achievement. It's just a personal decision, a preference....there are no quantum physics rationale behind it
 
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I don't care, I'm not installing a FB app ever again. They've been draining my battery for years now. Messenger is available on the mobile version anyway.
 
Toss your PC out the windows
You mean Windows? :D:D:D:apple:
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Because it's very popular nowadays to view oneself as the "outsider voice" or one of the few people smart enough to resist this tech intrusion into daily life.
But seriously I feel you're sort of damned if you do & damned if you don't.

I was an early Facebook adopter going back to when they first launched and required a .edu to register. I was pretty active for about 5 years through all their hated UI changes. Then I just slowly started feeling like I was wasting too much time on the site b/c it became more of a procrastination tool towards the end. But also, honestly, I hated using it the more I did. It started to feel like an extension of the high school popularity contest with the "likes", etc... And I was never the most popular one there so I felt like I was missing out lol.

I quit cold turkey and have felt great about it. I don't obsess about checking my feed. Or checking to see who liked my what, etc. And most importantly I am really glad about the time I don't waste on it, even if I waste it elsewhere lol. I still have my profile somewhat stuck in time. I'll log in every once in a while. But I rarely ever post, maybe 3 or 4 times in the last 4 or 5 years. All my friends still use it, some more than others. So they still tag me on pics and stuff. They also occasionally complain about how it's the worst and they don't like the drama. And also that the sanest people they know don't use it.

I do occasionally hit resistance from these friends to get back on but I always push back. I usually say it's such a waste of time and that you don't really gain anything from it. But I usually feel full of myself while saying it.

So you're either part of the circus if you do or full of yourself if you don't. :confused:
 
Typically Failbook... Everyone knows, that the best and by far most entertaining chatbot AI's are actually developed by Microsoft... :D
 
For me it's fine for basic social stuff, but there's no way in hell I'd give them my credit card number.

The private info about your life that you volunteering giving them is much more precious compare to your credit card details...
 
I avoid FB like the plague.

As users we should no longer support this free-mass surveillance business model. We can do something about it and use the traditional business model- you know- like paying for services.

I already support ProtonMail.
 
The private info about your life that you volunteering giving them is much more precious compare to your credit card details...

Nothing I put up I'd consider that private. They can have it, if it's so precious to find out that I went and saw a particular movie, good for them.
 
I honestly don't see Facebook lasting as long as they claim it will be. Five to ten years from now, the Internet will be a lot more spread out with the "big domain" era phasing out.

While these technologies and visions are nice, I don't see them thriving under the current management model. If anything, I can see these technologies spun off after they are not well utilized over there.

The future of social media is open and peer brokered. Zuck and company knows this and why they are desperately at work adding value to their services keeping it from going to majority of child and pet videos.
 
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But seriously I feel you're sort of damned if you do & damned if you don't.

I was an early Facebook adopter going back to when they first launched and required a .edu to register. I was pretty active for about 5 years through all their hated UI changes. Then I just slowly started feeling like I was wasting too much time on the site b/c it became more of a procrastination tool towards the end. But also, honestly, I hated using it the more I did. It started to feel like an extension of the high school popularity contest with the "likes", etc... And I was never the most popular one there so I felt like I was missing out lol.

I quit cold turkey and have felt great about it. I don't obsess about checking my feed. Or checking to see who liked my what, etc. And most importantly I am really glad about the time I don't waste on it, even if I waste it elsewhere lol. I still have my profile somewhat stuck in time. I'll log in every once in a while. But I rarely ever post, maybe 3 or 4 times in the last 4 or 5 years. All my friends still use it, some more than others. So they still tag me on pics and stuff. They also occasionally complain about how it's the worst and they don't like the drama. And also that the sanest people they know don't use it.

I do occasionally hit resistance from these friends to get back on but I always push back. I usually say it's such a waste of time and that you don't really gain anything from it. But I usually feel full of myself while saying it.

So you're either part of the circus if you do or full of yourself if you don't. :confused:

That's not what I meant though. Consciously choosing not to use Facebook is fine. I was talking about the people who use the Internet to lecture everyone about not being stupid enough to expose themselves to Facebook and all its intrusive ways of doing things. That kind of purism is silly. If you're on the Internet—much less posting on public forums—you've got no business pretending you're above it all or know better than the rest of us plebs.

I avoid FB like the plague.

As users we should no longer support this free-mass surveillance business model. We can do something about it and use the traditional business model- you know- like paying for services.

I already support ProtonMail.

If you're that concerned about mass surveillance, you probably shouldn't be on the Internet.

Just sayin'.
 
Welcome back, 1996 IRC technology!
This reminded me of the mirc bots that did trivia contests, answered questions , and let you put files you wanted into their dcc send queue. They were a great diversion between solving homework problems .

So Facebook found a way to replicate late 90's tech? Well done!
[doublepost=1460596771][/doublepost]No Facebook, you are not getting my phone number. You overestimate your importance and authority.

You are a diversion that could easily be replaced the same way that you replaced MySpace.
 
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