Facebook Introduces Chatbots for Messenger, Pushes Further Into Live Video

[darthpikachu]

Took them long enough, Line and WeChat had chatbots for years now. Things like news bots, translator bots, restaurant bots are pretty useful.

Basically Facebook is trying to make you spend all your time in their app instead of using multiple apps. The advantage there is the UI is consistent so you don' have to get used to different UI for different apps etc.

 

[tennisproha]

That's not what I meant though. Consciously choosing not to use Facebook is fine. I was talking about the people who use the Internet to lecture everyone about not being stupid enough to expose themselves to Facebook and all its intrusive ways of doing things. That kind of purism is silly. If you're on the Internet—much less posting on public forums—you've got no business pretending you're above it all or know better than the rest of us plebs.

Oh I see. That's a different conversation entirely.

 

[DaveTheRave]

Yahoo use to be seeing all this... They come and they go. As of now, I don't see FB having the staying power. It'll be like MySpace or Yahoo. And to prove my point, that's why they are diversifying like crazy.

Yeah...20 years ago it was all about AIM, Yahoo Messenger and MSN messenger. Then they lost all those users. They had a 20 year head start and still lost to FB, Whatsapp and others. Crazy!

 

[Alenore]

Maybe you should make FacebookRumors.com then.

Or maybe you should realise macrumors isn't only about Mac ?
Last time I checked, they also have articles about iOS, watchOS, rumors about Apple in general, their competitors, or products linked to it. like, you know, Facebook which is installed on a verylarge majority of devices in this world and as such, affects most Apple user.

 

[cocky jeremy]

Or maybe you should realise macrumors isn't only about Mac ?
Last time I checked, they also have articles about iOS, watchOS, rumors about Apple in general, their competitors, or products linked to it. like, you know, Facebook which is installed on a verylarge majority of devices in this world and as such, affects most Apple user.

And ******* is visited by a lot of people on Safari, doesn't mean it belongs here.

 

[C DM]

And ******* is visited by a lot of people on Safari, doesn't mean it belongs here.

Not sure what ***** would be, but not really being similar/related/impactful enough would likely be the reasoning there.

 

[the8thark]

Tim Cook has even said that Apple is no longer a hardware (i.e. computer) company. They want to be a software and services company.

This is true. But Apple's iPhone revenues disagree. Tim can want Apple to be anything he chooses. The reality is different though. Apple needs its iPhone hardware revenues now more than ever.
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Connecting to a chat bot is not connecting to people. In none of my quotes did I ever imply such a thing.

THis is my point exactly. COnnecting to another person is what facebook is all about. COnnecting to chat bots is not. . . well Maybe Zuckerburg wants to change facebook to have bots as part of it's core business model. WHo knows what the future holds.

See how I answered the question from your quote? Novel isn't it? Now you try:

I see how you don't like my answer and think it's going off topic. It's not. I directly replied to your topic just as you directly replied to mine. That simple. (if this is sarcasm from you I am sorry, as it's hard to detcet sarcasm on the internet). We both DID directly reply to each other's comments here. You saying otherwise here is either wrong or funny, I'm not sure which.

To be fair, maybe I'm missing something. How exactly have they moved from their core premise? While I'm asking, how does selling iPods and Phones not veer from the core of selling PC's? I'm not saying Apple veered from their core (the idea makes no sense regardless who are what it's applied to), but I'm curious how you think one company did and the other didn't.

An the iOS line up (iPad/iPod/iPhone) is still the same premise. The iOS hardware are PC. An iPhone is a PC. It is just a new type of portable PC that can also make phone calls. Apple is still making PC hardware. I am also aware that Tim Cook said Apple is moving on to be a more service oriented company when Apple went from Apple Computers to Apple Inc. This is Tim's goal. But the reality is Apple still rely on their PC revenue very heavily. Mostly from iPhone, not still a large chunck from the Mac as well.

Chat bots is against the Facebook original premise, because it's not connecting people to people. Facebook's premise is not about chatting to others. It's about connecting you with your friends and other people you know. Well I guess if you find one of facebook's new chat bots your friend, then that's facebook's original premise furfilled. But otherwise no. This chatbot thing is a totally new direction for facebook, different to their original premise.
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Because it's not Apple
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The iPod, Apple TV, iTunes and Apps store, Apple's streaming music service, Apple Watch wristbands, etc aren't personal computers. This contradicts the original premise of why Apple was created, which was to develop and sell personal computers.

Change. Innovate. Adapt. Keep business alive.

Don't and you lose relevance and die.

The iPad is a PC. Just a different kind of PC
The Apple Watch is a PC, just a really small PC you can wear on your wrist.

Apple's streaming and other are different. That's why Apple is Apple inc now and no longer Apple Computer. But Apple still heavily rely on their PC hardware revenue. Most of that is iPhone revenue but the other PC revenue Apple has is sizable too.

 

[69Mustang]

This is true. But Apple's iPhone revenues disagree. Tim can want Apple to be anything he chooses. The reality is different though. Apple needs its iPhone hardware revenues now more than ever.
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THis is my point exactly. COnnecting to another person is what facebook is all about. COnnecting to chat bots is not. . . well Maybe Zuckerburg wants to change facebook to have bots as part of it's core business model. WHo knows what the future holds.


I see how you don't like my answer and think it's going off topic. It's not. I directly replied to your topic just as you directly replied to mine. That simple. (if this is sarcasm from you I am sorry, as it's hard to detcet sarcasm on the internet). We both DID directly reply to each other's comments here. You saying otherwise here is either wrong or funny, I'm not sure which.


An the iOS line up (iPad/iPod/iPhone) is still the same premise. The iOS hardware are PC. An iPhone is a PC. It is just a new type of portable PC that can also make phone calls. Apple is still making PC hardware. I am also aware that Tim Cook said Apple is moving on to be a more service oriented company when Apple went from Apple Computers to Apple Inc. This is Tim's goal. But the reality is Apple still rely on their PC revenue very heavily. Mostly from iPhone, not still a large chunck from the Mac as well.

Chat bots is against the Facebook original premise, because it's not connecting people to people. Facebook's premise is not about chatting to others. It's about connecting you with your friends and other people you know. Well I guess if you find one of facebook's new chat bots your friend, then that's facebook's original premise furfilled. But otherwise no. This chatbot thing is a totally new direction for facebook, different to their original premise.
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The iPad is a PC. Just a different kind of PC
The Apple Watch is a PC, just a really small PC you can wear on your wrist.

Apple's streaming and other are different. That's why Apple is Apple inc now and no longer Apple Computer. But Apple still heavily rely on their PC hardware revenue. Most of that is iPhone revenue but the other PC revenue Apple has is sizable too.

Your quotes seem to imply you think chat bots are Facebook's main focus. Bots are not. Their main focus is still the same. Just like you say Apple is still heavily reliant on their PC hardware revenue, Facebook is still reliant on their main source of revenue, monetizing those connections. You can't claim streaming and other stuff to be different for Apple without realizing the same holds true for Facebook and chat bots.

Look at it this way. Apple relies on hardware for the largest percentage of their revenue. So using your logic, they haven't changed from their core. Facebook relies on their core business for the largest percentage of their revenue as well. There is no difference. Both need their core to make money. Both have side projects.