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Facebook Is Developing a Version of Instagram for Children Under 13

MysticCow said:
I will add/clarify that parents are trying too hard to be their child's FRIEND and not their PARENT. I see it all the time...
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In my everyday experience, many parents and grandparents act like children and don't want to be bothered with their responsibilities. They're quick to be angry, quick to be drunk or high, and they'd rather give the phone and a pouch to the kids to keep them quiet.

When you see a 5 year old with a baby food pouch, you know that the parents aren't doing their job.
 
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bousozoku said:
Social media may have helped but a lack of parenting and a lack of discipline is the problem.
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it's easy to blame parents. i kept my son off of social media till he was 15, but you can't raise kids in a vacuum. they spend most of the day at school with their peers and not under the parent's guidance. when at home they are doing homework or some other extra curricular crap. there is very little home life and the influence on kids is mostly their peers. when you have an argument with your kids it's you vs your child plus his peers plus social media. you will lose most of the time.
 
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This such a bad idea. According to The Times newspaper “suicide rates among teenagers in the U.K. have almost doubled in eight years”. This is largely due to increased bullying through social media.
 
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topdrawer said:
it's easy to blame parents. i kept my son off of social media till he was 15, but you can't raise kids in a vacuum. they spend most of the day at school with their peers and not under the parent's guidance. when at home they are doing homework or some other extra curricular crap. there is very little home life and the influence on kids is mostly their peers. when you have an argument with your kids it's you vs your child plus his peers plus social media. you will lose most of the time.
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And some parents will freely turn their kids on to it, for, if nothing else: babysitting...

The American Public Educational System has been reduced to 'I CAN'T HANDLE MY KIDS, SO YOU TAKE THEM!!!'. So, why did so many people have the damn things to begin with? Stretch marks, incisions, self-ingratiating relatives, nosy neighbors, callous friends and coworkers, drugs, alcohol (for YOU, not the kids), dating (Them, unless the SO just leaves), lying, stealing, hating the 'rents', inane tv shows, Frozen part 3,529 (and all the prior CD's on shuffle), Barney, 4 years of 'baby food' poison, the endless nights of crying and screaming (and that's not just the kid!), stopping the urge to do diabolical psychological experiments on them, and the urge to micromanage their lives.

Damn, having kids just isn't worth it.

Oh, and I didn't mention inane 'playgroups' with other psychotic mothers (and fathers), and questions you really know damn well you *SHOULD* know the answers to, and NEW MATH, and school clothes that they outgrow in minutes, and groceries that fill the car and are gone by sunup the next day, and on and on... (I think those are the good points)

EDIT: This rant was from a discussion I was having with a few people in the education and mental health fields. The pandemic seems to have exposed a major problem in American Society, and I was shocked to actually hear the way they were describing it all. Yes, too many people are having too many kids for too many of the wrong reasons. A kid is NOT going to make your marriage stronger. A kid is not going to make your life better. The tax deduction you get isn't worth it if your kid knows they aren't wanted for anything more than a tax break.

But anyway...
 
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PinkyMacGodess said:
And some parents will freely turn their kids on to it, for, if nothing else: babysitting...

The American Public Educational System has been reduced to 'I CAN'T HANDLE MY KIDS, SO YOU TAKE THEM!!!'. So, why did so many people have the damn things to begin with? Stretch marks, incisions, self-ingratiating relatives, nosy neighbors, callous friends and coworkers, drugs, alcohol (for YOU, not the kids), dating (Them, unless the SO just leaves), lying, stealing, hating the 'rents', inane tv shows, Frozen part 3,529 (and all the prior CD's on shuffle), Barney, 4 years of 'baby food' poison, the endless nights of crying and screaming (and that's not just the kid!), stopping the urge to do diabolical psychological experiments on them, and the urge to micromanage their lives.

Damn, having kids just isn't worth it.

Oh, and I didn't mention inane 'playgroups' with other psychotic mothers (and fathers), and questions you really know damn well you *SHOULD* know the answers to, and NEW MATH, and school clothes that they outgrow in minutes, and groceries that fill the car and are gone by sunup the next day, and on and on... (I think those are the good points)
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Bruh, wow just wow. Well honestly no kids here and not likely but I do know of some excellent parents (including my own).
 
Aeronauts said:
This such a bad idea. According to The Times newspaper “suicide rates among teenagers in the U.K. have almost doubled in eight years”. This is largely due to increased bullying through social media.
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Yeah, this just screams "awful idea" to me.

And to build off of your quote from The Times...I don't have the data to back it up (didn't look, so I'm just throwing a thought out there). I wouldn't be surprised if that increase in suicide rate wasn't limited to just that teenage age group. People on social media, in general...not just teenagers...are just downright awful to each other. People are a heck of a lot more bold and unrelenting behind a keyboard. People get all the sick and twisted "fun" of tearing each other down, and doing it without having to show their face. It's an unfortunately powerful force.

I'm of the mind that while social media has done us a lot of good (for example, I greatly appreciate the ways it gives me to keep in contact with extended family I don't live close enough to see often)...it is also one of the most destructive things we've come up with.
 
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topdrawer said:
it's easy to blame parents. i kept my son off of social media till he was 15, but you can't raise kids in a vacuum. they spend most of the day at school with their peers and not under the parent's guidance. when at home they are doing homework or some other extra curricular crap. there is very little home life and the influence on kids is mostly their peers. when you have an argument with your kids it's you vs your child plus his peers plus social media. you will lose most of the time.
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Seen it far too often (I was part of a High School parent mentoring program). If one student doesn't have access, friends will often let them create one on their device. Peers share.
 
dk001 said:
Seen it far too often (I was part of a High School parent mentoring program). If one student doesn't have access, friends will often let them create one on their device. Peers share.
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one of my son's friends gave him an iphone to use in secret. i found out about it because i saw it connected to our wifi. then in highschool i found out he had a vpn subscription and he argued he needed it because the school blocked social media apps on their network and i was like, that's the dumbest fing argument.

you have to be pretty tech savvy to catch all the crap kids do to get around supervision.
 
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How about just telling your kids no, and not letting them have access to this, you are the parent after all!

Jesus, I'm so glad I grew up when there was no crap like this.
 
whiteonline said:
People said:
- video games are dangerous for the youth
- rock and rap music is dangerous for the youth
- Elvis’s hips are evil and dangerous for the youth
- books are dangerous for the youth

Need I go on?

Parents will ultimately have the final say over their children’s activities. Mine won’t be on Instagram. But it’s not my decision as to what someone else’s child is permitted to do.

edit: ninja’d by another post with the same sentiment.

I will say this: one must opt into Facebook. I don’t have a problem with Instagram because I choose not to use it.
I do have a problem with implicit use like Google where you are “subscribed” whether you have an account or not.
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Video games, TV, rock music.... All false comparisons with social networks.

Social networks, and their devices. rewire your brain.

Right now, as you are reading this, either your rage is building, or you are being compelled to click that like button.

IF ONE MORE (censored insult) COMPARES FB WITH TV, I SHALL PULL DOWN A STATUE (uncensored insult) OF ELVIS!

See?
 
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Meh, so IG will know everything about you from the moment you are a toddler all the way until you are an adult and older.
 
decafjava said:
Bruh, wow just wow. Well honestly no kids here and not likely but I do know of some excellent parents (including my own).
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Yeah, I know of a few too, but I had a friend, and later her husband, offer their kids to me. They were envious of my life, kid-less. I felt so sorry for their kids. One of them heard her talking to me. To hear your mom offering you to another couple. Those two kids are great kids. They just have ass hole parents. My parents were butt heads. *shrug*
 
return2sendai said:
Video games, TV, rock music.... All false comparisons with social networks.

Social networks, and their devices. rewire your brain.

Right now, as you are reading this, either your rage is building, or you are being compelled to click that like button.

IF ONE MORE (censored insult) COMPARES FB WITH TV, I SHALL PULL DOWN A STATUE (uncensored insult) OF ELVIS!

See?
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It's not a false comparison in this context - people of some authority are concerned with the effects to the youth brought on by consumption of a new media.

Social media manipulates ego and fomo for marketing. It's not rewiring.

No rage nor like. Though, you may smash that like button now. :)
 
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This reminds me of that great Bob Hoskins quote in Danny The Dog - “Get ‘em young enough and the possibilities are endless”
 
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