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Facebook Messenger Desktop App for Mac Revealed in Leaked Photo
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Tell me you're not that naive. You're the kind of person that scares me. Ready to give up our freedoms. And proud of it.
I think a lot of things scare you that shouldn't. You can encrypt your messages about where you want to eat lunch if you're so concerned.
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Facebook does make it easier because it puts the contacts all in one place. I mean, it's only easier because almost everyone uses it. If everyone used AIM still, that's what I'd use to contact them. Facebook also has pages and events, which are especially useful for us college students because of all the random things people invite us to. And the pages are like forums, comparable to Reddit.
Yeah, people also use it for posting junk. It's easier to ignore the junk than to make it the one reason you avoid using what most people use to contact each other. On a phone, you have telemarketers calling you, which is definitely worse.
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This made my day LOL!
How they are allowed to be so vague with their update details on the App Store is something I always wondered.
There's absolutely no reason why I need to care about random people seeing me, but it could be a problem if the government were doing it and if they started abusing it later. That's how it goes with freedom of speech, too. A country like France doesn't honor freedom of speech, and it sounds fine because they're just banning the Nazi party and such, but it eventually becomes a debate in politics what kind of speech should be allowed.
But we're talking about a totally opt-in service like Facebook that's just gathering messages. There's nothing they can use against me in my messages, but they might be able to use things against me with cameras and key loggers. If I want to say something secretly, I can do it somewhere besides Facebook. It's extremely rare that I'll need to do that outside of work. I'm not going to pretend like I'm so important that I need to hide even 1% of what I'm doing.
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Based on your posts you are either very young or naive. I hope you're young. Do yourself a favor and bone up on privacy issues including the impact FB has on our life from an authority, legal, and employment perspective. It is a serious issue.
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My age is hinted at in my signature and my name, if you want to know. I explained above why FB collecting messages is different from the 1984 government. TL;DR, Facebook is a private, opt-in service. You can easily choose what not to say on it, but there's no rational reason to be so secretive about most of what you say, and you guys are acting like you're way more important than you are by avoiding using Facebook at all just because of that.Based on your posts you are either very young or naive. I hope you're young. Do yourself a favor and bone up on privacy issues including the impact FB has on our life from an authority, legal, and employment perspective. It is a serious issue.
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You make a good point for student I give you that (nothing that a school site could not do anyway but i get your point), but using Facebook would not stop telemarketers calling you
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How naive.
Want to guess what one of the aspects used in investigating new employees? What they have on FB including associated posts and friends. Just went through a legal seminar on that last year. What they can legally pull is mind-numbing.
This is good for me, as Facebook is a primary channel of communication for many of my colleagues spread around the world. In some countries, such as the Philippines, people can get a mobile phone with only "Facebook data" access for free. I hate having to open the full Facebook website at my end just to communicate with them, although I'm sure that Facebook loves that I get distracted with stuff happening on my timeline.
Actually I don't see why all the hate for the app. I've been using Goofy since it was released (a nice web-wrapper of messenger.com) and I always wanted it to feel native. This would fix it.
Because it used to work in Messages and iChat, and that was the best. The new app by itself is good to have, but I'm really annoyed that they removed their Jabber support. I think a lot of people on this forum don't know that anyway. They just have some irrational hatred for Facebook.
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Yes, I'm aware. Back when I was overly cautious, after I got over the fear of using FB at all, I had a falsely named FB account with a Star Trek character as the picture that I used. And I had one with my real name and photo and a few posts that just sat there as a decoy for people. I later realized that it was more beneficial to actually put my real name and photo so people can find me since I didn't post anything incriminating anyway.
You choose what to put on there. Facebook warns you what they use the information for. There's nothing to complain about. There's almost nothing you need to hide, but you can hide what you want by not posting it. What I'm annoyed about is that people pretend like they must hide everything and avoid using Facebook at all as a result, then they boast about it. Just what we need, another way to be a hipster.
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There's nothing "cool" or "hipster" about hating Facebook, it was fun for a bit but as said earlier it does not improve on any other stuff we already have.
I have nothing to hide and definetly NOT an interesting person to lurk about but when you express your opinion (be it political, sexual or personal) those things might harm you let's say during a job interview (you would be surprised to see how many company check your profile before an interview).
First rule they tought me for a job interview is to stay neutral, never say what football team you rule for for example, you never know you might have someone interviewing you who rules for the opposite team and the first impression count a lot (not that you will not be hired for that, but it helps with the rest of the interview).
True you decide what to share, but you never know how different people react in a different way to the same post.
Doesn't matter if it's fun or improves upon anything. It's worthwhile to at least use it for the messenger so you can contact people. I've never considered it fun, just a utility. A hipster is someone who thinks it's always cool to do things the non-mainstream way. I know some people avoid it because they know they can't control their usage on it, but that's different.
Yeah that would have been cool. I just want one that everyone can use. But whatever company controls the platform will end up abusing it, so this is probably for the best.
That's my main point, if it doesn't do anything better (improve on what we have) why is it still alive? As other posted we had multiple platform before but where surpassed by newer / better tech, with facebook there's nothing better....and definetly not new anymore.
I really don't understand the facebook trend i mean i tried i saw and stopped using because messages / phone calls / forums still works and are way more anonymous and less filled with c**p.
It's not proprietary, it's SIP. Jabber is part of the dying XMPP protocol, the one that Google ditched too.
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I think you just clearly spelled out your social circle. For many of us, we do not experience that on facebook as those people aren't in our list of contacts.
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Facebook absolutely improved upon other services, this is some serious head in the sand nonsense.
