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cheesyappleuser

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Because it used to work in Messages and iChat, and that was the best. The new app by itself is good to have, but I'm really annoyed that they removed their Jabber support. I think a lot of people on this forum don't know that anyway. They just have some irrational hatred for Facebook.
I remember them dropping support for Jabber. But it was a bit of a pain to use, since it didn't sync your messages. But to each their own :)
 

dk001

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There's nothing "cool" or "hipster" about hating Facebook, it was fun for a bit but as said earlier it does not improve on any other stuff we already have.

I have nothing to hide and definetly NOT an interesting person to lurk about but when you express your opinion (be it political, sexual or personal) those things might harm you let's say during a job interview (you would be surprised to see how many company check your profile before an interview).

First rule they tought me for a job interview is to stay neutral, never say what football team you rule for for example, you never know you might have someone interviewing you who rules for the opposite team and the first impression count a lot (not that you will not be hired for that, but it helps with the rest of the interview).

True you decide what to share, but you never know how different people react in a different way to the same post.

It's not only what you have on your's, but what you have posted on others, and what others have posted.
Here's a real life one (not mine): Person A had minimal stuff on FB. Had a friend who posted some stuff. That friend had some "mildly controversial" items/posts on their page. This came up in the background check and resulted in a negative "mark" toward the prospective candidate based on associations. (btw - this person was eventually hired)
If you have global friends it can even get crazier.
Most companies use a service to run checks like these as these services can usually do a much more extensive investigation. Keep in mind that a lot of companies run periodic checks once your employed. especially if you deal with sensitive data.

Suddo1996 is right in one aspect: it's social. Don't put it there unless you want the world to know. However, with FB, it's not just your info, it now becomes anyone who is linked to you too. :(

Never forget, on FB once you post, message, etc., FB now owns that content.
 

bwillwall

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I think this is great. I prefer to use a messenger to Facebook.com and I hope they add quick reply as well!
 

iDuel

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don't you mean get round it so they'll keep the 70% ? This doesn't deserve a presence on the Mac app store.
I'm not sure what you mean...unless there is some sort of charge for downloading the Messenger app, there shouldn't be any type of cost to them imposed by Apple per download.
 

Iconoclysm

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May 13, 2010
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If you say so, yet not one example of what and how it is improved, but I am happy it did improve for you.

Honestly, I'm not even going to go down this road with you - it's so freaking obvious that it's not worth my time arguing.

Go to facebook.com, have a look around, compare it all of these services you think did the same things. Pay at least a little bit of attention, you might learn something. Hey, you might even create the next facebook!
 

8692574

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Honestly, I'm not even going to go down this road with you - it's so freaking obvious that it's not worth my time arguing.

Go to facebook.com, have a look around, compare it all of these services you think did the same things. Pay at least a little bit of attention, you might learn something. Hey, you might even create the next facebook!
So you too cannot name 1 feature that is improved and go defensive, I'm not even going to go down this road with you, it's so freaking obvious that you do not have an argument.

Even if it would be awesome to make all that money, it is the least of my priority to create something like the next facebook, if i ever make something i want it to be useful.
 
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teslo

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ah, nice. i see it has avatars and messages and a sideNAV with a dozen too many options that all lead to in-depth pages and further clicks to pages of other avatars and messages. utterly BRILLIANT
 

amirite

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Holy f, if you don't use Facebook then good for you! You're special! Some of us have friends and frequently talk to them and would appreciate such an app.

The comments and posturing in this thread is just ridiculous. The worst was probably the "what are people too lazy to do email now?".
 
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icehockey77

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To those of you who claim that FB is a great tool for staying connected, I have removed Facebook from my life for well over a year and I haven't lost contact with anyone that didn't regularly send me something on Facebook, and I have actually gotten to know people a lot better through phone calls and physical meet ups. Sure you can stay connected with a lot of people at once on Facebook, but does that really enhance your social experience? If I have something to share with someone, I will share it with them directly by phone call, text, or setting up a night to meet up and discuss how things have been or what we've been up to. I'm not trying to talk from a high horse, it just frustrates me that Facebook has become this benign room where my parents go to hang out as they sit alone in their living room on their separate iPads.

And to those so willing to give up personal information under the guise that they are uninteresting, you are the issue with this country now. You live in a candy land fantasy world if you don't realize how utterly terrifying it is that the government now has a file on you and everyone you are connected to. those funny off color jokes you made to your friend fro college? they have em. That drunk convo where you said something you shouldn't have? got that too. if you are only a few degrees away from anything remotely illegal, or your name is close to someone who may be on a watchlist, it can mean a great deal of inconvenience for you. but, hey, all in the sake of security right?

As for the messenger app, who cares, they've never made a good messaging tool that I've used. I always seemed to lose messages, or have old messages I didn't want to see ever again randomly pop back up. It never added any benefit to me that having someone's phone number and texting them didn't offer.
 
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C DM

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To those of you who claim that FB is a great tool for staying connected, I have removed Facebook from my life for well over a year and I haven't lost contact with anyone that didn't regularly send me something on Facebook, and I have actually gotten to know people a lot better through phone calls and physical meet ups. Sure you can stay connected with a lot of people at once on Facebook, but does that really enhance your social experience? If I have something to share with someone, I will share it with them directly by phone call, text, or setting up a night to meet up and discuss how things have been or what we've been up to. I'm not trying to talk from a high horse, it just frustrates me that Facebook has become this benign room where my parents go to hang out as they sit alone in their living room on their separate iPads.

And to those so willing to give up personal information under the guise that they are uninteresting, you are the issue with this country now. You live in a candy land fantasy world if you don't realize how utterly terrifying it is that the government now has a file on you and everyone you are connected to. those funny off color jokes you made to your friend fro college? they have em. That drunk convo where you said something you shouldn't have? got that too. if you are only a few degrees away from anything remotely illegal, or your name is close to someone who may be on a watchlist, it can mean a great deal of inconvenience for you. but, hey, all in the sake of security right?

As for the messenger app, who cares, they've never made a good messaging tool that I've used. I always seemed to lose messages, or have old messages I didn't want to see ever again randomly pop back up. It never added any benefit to me that having someone's phone number and texting them didn't offer.
Your subjective personal anecdotal experience is great, but that's all that it is.
 
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sudo1996

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I remember them dropping support for Jabber. But it was a bit of a pain to use, since it didn't sync your messages. But to each their own :)
Yeah, it was annoying. I considered it worth it anyway. There is an XMPP extension (lol) to support message syncing, and Facebook didn't implement it but very well could have. I don't think Ejabberd even comes with a module for it, unless they've updated it since I last pulled. Right now, if you launch Ejabberd with stock configuration, you'll have a really sketchy and dated system up that works horribly with multiple devices and doesn't encrypt anything. You can tune it to whatever you want, but then it might as well be nonstandard at that point.

You know, XMPP was a great idea for providing free and non-commercial messaging to everyone, but it took the route of trying to be so expandable that nobody wanted to deal with it. Isn't a standard supposed to be the same across servers and clients? I swear I can't find two XMPP clients or servers that work the same. Incompatibilities everywhere!

Maybe I oughtta define a new subset of the XMPP standards that's designed for general modern messaging. Not like I could ever get people to use it, though.
 
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