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Facebook Recruiting Former Apple iPhone Engineers for Facebook Phone
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You are talking as if Apple had all of these features implemented when iPhone was launched. FB Phone only needs a really good single feature to be successful. The question is: what feature would bring to a phone a similar hype as when first iPhone was launched.
Nokia just launched the 808 Pureview, equipped with a camera capable of beating most dedicated compact cameras. I doubt this phone will be a successful seller, but the technology can be applied on Nokia Lumias. Then it will be a candidate to recover some market share.
Facebook needs something like this: a nice OS and at least one killer feature.
Nokia just launched the 808 Pureview, equipped with a camera capable of beating most dedicated compact cameras. I doubt this phone will be a successful seller, but the technology can be applied on Nokia Lumias. Then it will be a candidate to recover some market share.
Facebook needs something like this: a nice OS and at least one killer feature.
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Women older than 45 use FB to the max.
Every middle-aged woman I know is all up in the Facebook to get all up in people's business, real talk.
Facebook should stick to their knitting.
When is the payoff? Hiring some great talent is a start, but a lot of time would need to be spent to do better than either iOS or Android. A phone has to do more than run Facebook.
Why vertically integrate so deep into the technology stack? If the expectation is to profit selling great hardware, I don't see it happening for FB. On the OS side, I don't see what would drive them to customize; can't they continue to develop ad delivery / services on existing platforms?
When is the payoff? Hiring some great talent is a start, but a lot of time would need to be spent to do better than either iOS or Android. A phone has to do more than run Facebook.
Why vertically integrate so deep into the technology stack? If the expectation is to profit selling great hardware, I don't see it happening for FB. On the OS side, I don't see what would drive them to customize; can't they continue to develop ad delivery / services on existing platforms?
You are talking as if it's 2007.
Every other month you get a new Android phone with the fastest processor or some "killer feature", and if people aren't using Android then they're using iOS. The market is too crowded to the point where there is no area for Facebook to make a business in it.
Please Nokia, RIM, Microsoft are all trying to keep their heads above the water that is mobile.
It is absolute stupidity for Facebook to spend some of the billions on developing a phone. But hey, blame the CEO.
If Facebook was truly innovating then they would look for the next big thing. They would realize that they can't win at making mobile and would work to create something futuristic.
"Sorry, Dave's boss is not on Facebook. Would you like to create his/her page?"
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"Done. Now, would you like to add Dave's boss to your friends list and send him/her a poke?"
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It's funny how everyone is sooo shocked by this when Facebook have been in the phone biz for a while. Heck, the "Facebook phone" was released last year, made by HTC and running Android (Facebook could do what to Google with a Facebook phone again ?) :
For a bunch of self-proclaimed tech enthusiasts, you guys sure have bad memories about actual tech outside of Apple.
Yea and HTC killed the phone in less than 90 days.....a total flop!
Follow the money.....................it's all about the scratch!!
Yeah, but does everyone use blenders made by General Electric? So why should everyone use social networking made by Facebook?
This is sort of like Joe's Crab Shack building a Crab Shack Phone. Stick to web/software, guys... you're the Microsoft of social networking. People don't like your UI design. It's crap. We use Facebook because we pretty much have to, not because we want to.
What'll happen if they do build a phone because Zuck is worried that "Facebook will become just another app on other platforms" (YES! THAT'S ALL IT IS!)... All other functionalities will be seen through the lens of social networking.
They're not a hardware company. They don't put the user experience first. Could they succeed if they learned to transform how they monetize their platform? Sure. But they have to change significantly in their core values in order to get there and do it right. Otherwise, they'll fail as miserably as Google and Microsoft did at trying to do things that just aren't in their DNA.
What'll happen if they do build a phone because Zuck is worried that "Facebook will become just another app on other platforms" (YES! THAT'S ALL IT IS!)... All other functionalities will be seen through the lens of social networking.
They're not a hardware company. They don't put the user experience first. Could they succeed if they learned to transform how they monetize their platform? Sure. But they have to change significantly in their core values in order to get there and do it right. Otherwise, they'll fail as miserably as Google and Microsoft did at trying to do things that just aren't in their DNA.
You must be a Facebook loser. I mean user.
Wrong again. It ultimately depends on your circle of friends and what they use. Email is definitely not dying. It's still the easiest way to send large files, pictures, attachments, and just some good ol' long-ass messages. There's also a certain permanance to email.
This is true.
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Why does fb need their own phone? What would that give them that apps don't? Do they want full control of the OS, so they can ram advertising into it at an inescapably low level?
Think of the possibilities:
I suppose folks might tolerate it if the price was right. Free is good, right?
Think of the possibilities:
- They could insert ads into text messages.
- Substitute prerecorded ads in place of ringtones/system sounds? ("incoming call from your mom - brought to you by Mrs Smith's Pies!". "This is your early morning wake up alarm - brought to you by Starbucks coffee."). Yuck.
- Insert prerecorded ads into the middle of phone conversations?
I suppose folks might tolerate it if the price was right. Free is good, right?
Hiring experienced talent is a time honored way to get something done quickly.
B&N and Amazon did it for their tablets. Google bought Android to get it done. I would also bet that Apple hired experienced contractors to do much of the original iPhone radio hardware and software.
That does not compute. Do you think Steve Jobs knew what chips were needed for a phone? This sounds more like a hiring interview question, to make sure they're not getting someone who just claims to have worked on the iPhone.
Perhaps FB just wants to lock people into their social ecosystem. Works for Apple.
Why does fb need their own phone? What would that give them that apps don't? Do they want full control of the OS, so they can ram advertising into it at an inescapably low level?
Think of the possibilities:
- They could insert ads into text messages.
- Substitute prerecorded ads in place of ringtones/system sounds? ("incoming call from your mom - brought to you by Mrs Smith's Pies!". "This is your early morning wake up alarm - brought to you by Starbucks coffee."). Yuck.
- Insert prerecorded ads into the middle of phone conversations?
I suppose folks might tolerate it if the price was right. Free is good, right?
Well the user won't be happy about this, but the stockholders will be!
He who controls a platform get the most/best information about how to sell the user's eyeballs and habits.
Even if it does suck (which it probably will) there's nothing like competition to force the big boys from resting on their laurels.
Apple created the iPhone because they thought all the mobile phones at the time were crap. Apple's focus is 100% product. As a consequence of making great products, people like them, buy them and thus makes tons of money.
A few more mobile advertising possibilities:
Can't wait
- Without any warning, the phone in your pocket blasts an audio advert at random. FB spin it as, "A commercial break for your life(TM)".
- Same thing, but as a text message. Hard to ignore, huh?
- Ever-watchful geolocation blasts messages to you whenever you go anywhere near Walmart, McDonald's, or any other business that pays fb to pester you.
- Same geolocation detects you entering a McDonald's and blasts a deal luring you to burger king (or whoever the highest bidder is) instead.
Can't wait
wait did myspace make a phone? stealing their idea worked for him once. i really wish Facebook would just die!! i went on it a lot at first, now if it's more than once a week that would be rare. i weeded my 300 "friends" down to 20.
uh oh..
I see this being popular with the teeny boppers.
not going to lie, I think I'm going to delete my fb account soon,
I see this being popular with the teeny boppers.
not going to lie, I think I'm going to delete my fb account soon,