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Facebook Runs Second Full-Page Ad Criticizing Apple, Says Opt-In Tracking Will Make the Internet Worse

Don't kids yourselves. Apple is no freedom fighter. They just want to control who is making money from their platforms - including web browsers. Neither company is altruistic. They're both in it to make money. And I'm fine with that.
 
I don't think I've ever responded to Internet advertising in 30 years. How is it even effective? I think my wife bought a handbag one time from an Instagram ad. It took a month to arrive from China. I doubt she'll click an ad again.
 
All companies are in it to make money, but I struggle with Facebook all of a sudden caring about small business. They don’t care about small business, they just want their advertising revenue.

Apple is finally giving users a choice to share their data or not to share their data and this applies equally to all apps including Apple’s. This is simply the best way to handle this. I’m not sure how any can argue with this logic?
 
“Apple said it welcomes in-app advertising and is not prohibiting tracking, but simply requiring apps to obtain explicit user consent in order to track users for personalized advertising purposes, providing users with more control and transparency.”

That’s it. That’s the weak point in Facebook’s argument. Apple is not stopping them, they’re just asking them to literally be straightforward with users. God forbid people knowing what a company intends to do with their data. If their reason for success was being shady in their practices, well either have faith people will still opt in and suck it up or go make your own hardware.
 
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kopaszmercis said:
Tim Cook should pay to run these ads elsewhere too... this will be the Streisand effect, and boost iPhone sales.
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Reminds me of The Greatest Showman. His critics ran and ad in the papers calling it a circus. Barnum then turned around and gave half price tickets to anyone who brought that ad in 😂 exponential growth.

I get it’s a movie and I haven’t done my research to see if that actually happened but it’s at least a great story haha
 
The sad thing about all this is that Facebook itself is nothing......if anyone here uses instagram you are still contributing to facebooks bottom line.
 
Realityck said:
Most of us just want to see less of Facebook everywhere.
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I wish that were true...unfortunately the vast majority of people still have a positive view of Facebook. Obviously they’re not paying any attention.
 
Even as I read the replies, I am seeing targeted ads on this site, of which the irony is quite symbolic. Yes we know all sites exist because of advertising, yet we should ask ourselves would we come here if we had to pay? I gave up my personal Facebook page over 3 years ago, and have not missed it. I am on Facebook because of business, and where I work it is necessary because my work runs communication, advertising, and PR from facebook. Would I pay for Facebook? Heck no, there aren't many sites that I would pay to visit, of ones I donate like Wikipedia, and Reddit by buying coins to compliment users on their chuckles. Most people would not support any such enterprise, and until the next flash in the pan arises, they will continue to only support those who have their best interests in mind.
 
Facebook is so desperate. Apple isn’t killing ads on your favorite cooking site. It’s giving users choice on how they are tracked, often without their understanding. Of users decide they value privacy, then sites can find other ways to monetize or improve their content for premium offerings.
 
There’s a simple solution: websites can require you to share your information in order to view their content, or you can subscribe to view their content. But the user gets to choose which approach works for him or her. Problem solved.
 
kopaszmercis said:
For what it's worth, if this isn't a sign that Apple takes your privacy seriously, then nothing is. Clearly it's part of the business model, but like casnios not cheating because of how much money they're bound to make playing clean, Apple will protect your privacy because it makes too much money for them.
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Yep my take precisely and I pay the extra fees for quality products as well (note I did not say perfect forget that idea LOL). My ipad, Macs last me long time, yeah I upgrade phone each year because of upgrades I want LOL. Anyway am choosing to do this and I choose to tell Facebook to shut up
 
quatermass said:
Facebook market cap: $780bn
Apple market cap: $2,023bn

Facebook revenues: $70bn (declining)
Apple revenues: $270bn (increasing)

Seems that providing a quality product, protecting your customers, not monetising their behaviour, and not allowing others to do that on their platform is a valuable commodity that consumers want and are willing to pay for. Gosh... who knew?
Sorry, Zuckerberg et al, your business model was shaky to start with, it's been shown up for what it is. You milked it for as long as you could and made a shedload of cash out of it, but it's over. Given the choice, consumers don't like what you do, don't want to support your business model and if given the choice, will opt out. Obviously you don't want them to have that choice so you can carry on, 'business as usual', treating the users data as product. Well, tough - users don't like it, don't agree with it and don't want it - you should have thought of that.
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Yep precisely, its a product I am willing to pay for and am happy to continue — my choice.
 
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xnsys said:
Question : How many complaining about Facebook on this thread are actually on Facebook?
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Still on it have some groups I participate in. The news thread/profile page I probably could live without so much crap, fake news from both sides, ect
 
Abazigal said:
I have zero apps on my phone which are ad-supported. Or if they were, I paid upfront to remove all the ads.
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Same here, but in case of some games my wife and grandkids they choose to leave ads in, they are free, rather than pay a subscription to developer and of course apples cut. It works for us not the doom and gloom Facebook is pushing and some feel is correct.
 
fatespawn said:
Don't kids yourselves. Apple is no freedom fighter. They just want to control who is making money from their platforms - including web browsers. Neither company is altruistic. They're both in it to make money. And I'm fine with that.
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Yep totally get that I choose whom to spend my money with and its apple for me not Fakebook
 
Johnny Steps said:
“Apple said it welcomes in-app advertising and is not prohibiting tracking, but simply requiring apps to obtain explicit user consent in order to track users for personalized advertising purposes, providing users with more control and transparency.”

That’s it. That’s the weak point in Facebook’s argument. Apple is not stopping them, they’re just asking them to literally be straightforward with users. God forbid people knowing what a company intends to do with their data. If their reason for success was being shady in their practices, well either have faith people will still opt in and suck it up or go make your own hardware.
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Bingo exactly!!
 
Ads are annoying. Personalized ads are creepy. We all suffers ads prior to the advent of personalized ads. I'd gladly go back to general advertising. STOP COLLECTING MY DATA!
 
As a Father, one of the Top 3 things I am most proud of is that none of my children has Facebook on any device. I look forward to the day Zuck gets his ass handed to him.
 
"We don't pay attention to 99% of the ads on FB, or worse, they annoy us. Thank you for your concern" - FB Average User
 
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