Steve Jobs declared 'thermonuclear war' on Google. One can only imagine how he would've responded to this Facebook bs.
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Facebook Runs Second Full-Page Ad Criticizing Apple, Says Opt-In Tracking Will Make the Internet Worse
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Has someone already got the question from Facebook if they can track you through apps on iOS or are they still tracking us without asking?
Whilst it is Facebook who is banging the drum here about the potential pitfalls of the OS update, people need to stop and remember that this doesn't just affect Facebook, it will affect EVERY free app in the app store that relies on advertising so it can be free. Stop and think how many free apps you have on your iphone or ipad and then stop to think that when the update roles out and you say 'No' to these free apps wanting to push advertising on you, the free app will instantly lose it's revenue from the advertisers and if no one is watching the adverts, the advertisers will stop providing money to app developers. Then the app developer will no longer be able to provide updates for their app because they have no money coming in. So, do they just up and quit, leave the app platform and go work on something else leaving the app users high and dry or do they switch to a subscription system which due to Apple app store rules means they are forced to use Apple's pay system.
People are being too blinded by Facebook to see the actual problem that Facebook is trying to address which is, if users opt out of the free apps advertising, the app will not be able to support itself because the advertisers will leave which means how does the app developer support themselves? by subscription and who provides the subscription service, Apple of course because they do not allow other pay/subscription systems to be used in the app store. Therefore as a direct consequence of Apple's actions, they will be forcing developers of free apps to move to a subscription based service which only Apple is allowed to supply, a service that Apple takes a monthly percentage from.
People are being too blinded by Facebook to see the actual problem that Facebook is trying to address which is, if users opt out of the free apps advertising, the app will not be able to support itself because the advertisers will leave which means how does the app developer support themselves? by subscription and who provides the subscription service, Apple of course because they do not allow other pay/subscription systems to be used in the app store. Therefore as a direct consequence of Apple's actions, they will be forcing developers of free apps to move to a subscription based service which only Apple is allowed to supply, a service that Apple takes a monthly percentage from.
I have zero apps on my phone which are ad-supported. Or if they were, I paid upfront to remove all the ads.
I think it’s important to point out that this feature will not stop ads in apps, just stop them tracking where you go on the internet to target ads to you. Granted targeted ads deliver higher Fees but non targeted ads still generate revenue.
i Think the reason you see so much opposition from Facebook is they fear users reaction if they find out how much Facebook is tracking them
FB looks ridiculous here. Making it worse for themselves. Apple meanwhile looking great. Maybe FB should not shut up and keep digging that hole for themselves while at the same time continuing to make Apple look great
Most of those apps are crap and if they were any good people would buy them.
This is Tech Darwinism. It will help cull all the low quality crap being developed and force low quality developers to focus on high quality, user experience, user safety, and sustainable business models.
If weak players and low quality apps disappear that’s good for everyone else who put in high quality effort. Everyone wins.
As far as everyone is concerned, FB can go F*** themselves!
I am interested in technical details: what happens when users choses to "ask app not to track". Does it just block 3rd party cookies (similar to what Safari does) in any WebView used within the app, or maybe there are some other tricks involved. Would somebody kindly point me to a thorough explanation?
Hey Facebook, can you give us a report on the engagement level of this ad? What's your conversion rate?
The internet has, since the launch of Facebook, become less free. It's a digital plague that has slowly infected almost every person on the planet.
This is bogus in a sense that all companies have to simply up their game in terms of marketing also outside of the Apple eco system. All major browsers block tracking etc and it is the publishers/advertisers responsibility to make high quality ads that appeal to the consumer who then will happily opt-in to any tracking if it’s useful.
The problem why people want to block ads and are on board with this is also simply down the the sheer amount of bad advertising, invasive ads on your
Screen and so on.
There are websites you cannot visit any more because they are plastered with ads to the point where the actual content is covered.
To hide behind small businesses that regardless of the situation do not have the means to run meaningful online campaigns is somewhat ridiculous.
The problem why people want to block ads and are on board with this is also simply down the the sheer amount of bad advertising, invasive ads on your
Screen and so on.
There are websites you cannot visit any more because they are plastered with ads to the point where the actual content is covered.
To hide behind small businesses that regardless of the situation do not have the means to run meaningful online campaigns is somewhat ridiculous.
Just pull the app from the app store. It’s not like that you can’t use a browser on the phone, oh yeah you make it difficult if not impossible. Oh well it was your choice Facebook to do that.
It was bad enough for you to create a memory chugging app on android so lesser phones with less space couldn’t use your services.
maybe if you cared for the users instead of exploit them we would care.
It was bad enough for you to create a memory chugging app on android so lesser phones with less space couldn’t use your services.
maybe if you cared for the users instead of exploit them we would care.
For ads on websites, that's more Google's forte. Apple tried with iAds, but failed.
Facebook is more about tracking their users to create a persona that they can sell to businesses who want to advertise on their platform (FB, IG).
But, sarcasm aside...
Maybe they DID successfully make a targeted ad here simply through the act of using newspapers... I have no stats to back me up here, but I'd wager the Venn diagram of newspaper buyers and people that share "Facebook is going to start charging a subscription fee" posts may damn near look like 1 circle.
The only ad supported apps I download are ones which I can stop the ads by turning on Airplane Mode... Otherwise I delete them!
Actually a lot of people misunderstand this feature. This feature does not really block tracking but rather the possibility to connect the data to an existing profile across platforms. When you select "Ask App not to Track" it blocks access to the IDFA (well, it actually just gives back a blank IDFA). The IDFA is a unique identifier that can be used to identify someone across apps and devices and companies like Google and Facebook use the IDFA to identify you and show you personalized ads and to connect your actions to a "profile" to further understand you and your behavior. You can actually already disable the IDFA entirely for all apps in the setting under privacy.
Oh, boo-hoo-hoo. It's because Facebook abused the privilege in the first place, and now it's being taken away. Oh, boo-hoo-hoo, now Mark can't afford his Botox injections anymore....
Today must be a record.
Don’t know if it’s just me, but everyone and everywhere seems to be cranking the number of trackers served up the wazoo.
It’s hard to be sympathetic to these companies when they have done nothing but abuse and betray that relationship right from the very start.
Don’t know if it’s just me, but everyone and everywhere seems to be cranking the number of trackers served up the wazoo.
It’s hard to be sympathetic to these companies when they have done nothing but abuse and betray that relationship right from the very start.
It basically comes down to who is fighting 'our' corner...
Apple have made money from us buying into their ecosystem, and have the possibility of continued earning from subscriptions/services and upgrading hardware...
Facebook aren't interested in 'us' as anything more than a commodity. They offer a 'free' service for us to use, free in that it doesn't have a monetary cost. Ever evolving their service to bleed more info/habits from us. They then make money by selling our details to their customers (we aren't customers, we are users).
Google have a similar business model, harvesting (sometimes illegally like Facebook) information from its users to then sell on.
There is a reason for companies with a 'freely available' product or service become global corporate giants....
Apple have made money from us buying into their ecosystem, and have the possibility of continued earning from subscriptions/services and upgrading hardware...
Facebook aren't interested in 'us' as anything more than a commodity. They offer a 'free' service for us to use, free in that it doesn't have a monetary cost. Ever evolving their service to bleed more info/habits from us. They then make money by selling our details to their customers (we aren't customers, we are users).
Google have a similar business model, harvesting (sometimes illegally like Facebook) information from its users to then sell on.
There is a reason for companies with a 'freely available' product or service become global corporate giants....
This right here should make your decision of iPhone vs. Android that much easier when you’re in the market for a phone.
...the decision is get an iPhone. Lol.
...the decision is get an iPhone. Lol.