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As much as I would like to have an alternative that is not going to happen — unless FaceBook itself implodes and disappears.

This is the only one-stop-shop for myself and extended family and friends around the globe.

Such is life… but damn, FaceBook… why let your users down again and again?

Well, when I need to talk to family, I just call them. Better to be alone, that surrounded by fools.
 
If that were only possible, but you are naive to think that the average FB user will switch. We techie types would love to, but in this day and age convincing the majority of your family and friends to abandon FB is not going to happen, so we are stuck with FB or with little or no contact with family and friends. That is just the way it is, like it or not. Everyone is used to FB now, and expecting them all to agree to switch to another single platform is so naive as to be laughable. So if you are a loner, then switch if you want to. But if you have a lot of family and friends on FB, you are pretty much stuck with it for now, assuming you want to stay in contact with them.

Family & friends on facebook, like really? if they are family & friends they are the easiest to maintain contact with outside of facebook, my god not even for a second think that you need facebook to maintain any kind of social interaction with your closest fellas, it's totally the opposite you are being dragged to a simulated frivolous net. I'd just advice you to leave it entirely, and see for yourself. When you need to maintain contact, try calling or hanging out, I guarantee you it'll be the real deal but if facebook works for you my friend so be it.
 
1. get a better job.

2. all the good memes are on reddit first.

1. Absolutely right, you guessed it. We use FB chat for all our professional correspondence. We message potential clients through it and send secure documents over messenger. Doesn’t everybody? :rolleyes:

2. Plebbit is for people who use browsers like Opera.
 
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Good maybe this will mean less “hey this is my political opinion! Hey look at my baby!! Hey my life is amazing!! Hey my dog is cute!!” Ugh
 
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If that were only possible, but you are naive to think that the average FB user will switch. We techie types would love to, but in this day and age convincing the majority of your family and friends to abandon FB is not going to happen, so we are stuck with FB or with little or no contact with family and friends. That is just the way it is, like it or not. Everyone is used to FB now, and expecting them all to agree to switch to another single platform is so naive as to be laughable. So if you are a loner, then switch if you want to. But if you have a lot of family and friends on FB, you are pretty much stuck with it for now, assuming you want to stay in contact with them.

Dude, this is going to sound harsh, but if that's true it's partially your own fault (regarding the bolded part). There are other non-facebook ways to contact family and friends: Phone call, text messaging, seeing them in real life. You have to make an effort to actually see them.

I quit facebook a few years ago. I make it a point to call my friends and family every so often - at least once per quarter. It's not hard - 5-15 minute long conversations 4x a year is enough to catch up and stay in touch, and it feels a lot realer than facebook ever could.

Indeed I would argue contact on facebook is so superficial that it's not "real" contact. In other words, someone you haven't seen in years but only talk to on facebook is just that - someone you haven't seen in years.

Your tie to facebook to keep in contact with family and friends is completely illusory. Sure, you'll miss out on some conversations that don't matter and some stupid photos, but you won't miss out on anything that matters. You'll only miss out on things that matter if you don't make any effort to communicate with your friends and family in other ways - which is on and on them.
 
I am only a FB lurker. Rarely post something. Better that way. Staying in stealth mode is the way to go, at least for me.
 
Agree 100%

As much as I would like to have an alternative that is not going to happen — unless FaceBook itself implodes and disappears.

This is the only one-stop-shop for myself and extended family and friends around the globe.

Such is life… but damn, FaceBook… why let your users down again and again?

Because the users refuse to leave the platform giving FaceBook and Zuckerberg little incentive to improve.
 
The story ended with "Today's Facebook hack comes just a day after Facebook was found to be using phone numbers that customers provided for 2-factor authentication for ad targeting purposes and shadow contact building."

And we are suppose to trust these social media monopolies to "not do any harm" … they are out-of-control behemoths ... it's disgusting!
 
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If Facebook's overt disregard for your privacy doesn't get you then their incompetence in managing their platform and security will.
 
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I was logged out and had to log back in, and I did *not* receive a message about what happened.
 
To all the advisors who have posted on this thread saying go and hang out in person… sure, if you all you do is live in white picket fence suburbia or the same trailer park, why not?

But speaking for myself, quite frankly I'm happy to read inane comments and roll my eyes at the baby pics and photos of their new cars etc from other side of the globe.

There are several things that are enjoyable — not worth a phone call — not worth an email — just a quick well done or photo to be shared. Nothing life changing… That's where FaceBook fits the bill.

*shrug* But as always, YMMV and consider yourselves fortunate (apparently) that you have a life you can live just by strolling next door. *snicker*
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They were always dumb. It just gave them a platform.
This is true.
 
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They say 50M now, but just wait until next week when they casually update that the real number is more like 400M or higher. That seems to be how this works.
 
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If that were only possible, but you are naive to think that the average FB user will switch. We techie types would love to, but in this day and age convincing the majority of your family and friends to abandon FB is not going to happen, so we are stuck with FB or with little or no contact with family and friends. That is just the way it is, like it or not. Everyone is used to FB now, and expecting them all to agree to switch to another single platform is so naive as to be laughable. So if you are a loner, then switch if you want to. But if you have a lot of family and friends on FB, you are pretty much stuck with it for now, assuming you want to stay in contact with them.

Uhm.... no, I don't think so. My 25-year old daughter dumped FB permanently 5 years ago, my 25 year old is off and so is my 28 year old. Young people especially are dumping Facebook by the millions:

https://www.theguardian.com/technol...leaving-instagram-snapchat-study-user-numbers

In certain countries, like the Philippines, they're still quite popular but in Western Europe and North America, FB is dying quickly and they won't be able to come back from it if you ask me. Reference MySpace....
 
Is there any single good thing about FaceBook? Honest question.

They're helping to mess up elections and our democracy, they're taking everyone's private information and selling it, they're taking private information from your contacts and attaching it to you with no way of you knowing, they take your additional phone numbers when setting up two factor authentication to sell to advertisers, the platform is generally a cesspool of fake news and people arguing. And if you try using a competing service, there's a chance that if FaceBook doesn't already own them, they will soon.

The only good thing I can think of is that it's useful in disaster situations to get a hold of friends and family, but even in those situations FaceBook in some countries was popping off celebratory balloons during these events in people's conversations, and more than that, what is so wrong with texting, emailing, or calling to tell your family that you are safe?

I gave them a small amount of information about myself in 2004 when I didn't know any better and thought it was the next Xanga or MySpace. I've learned since then and haven't touched the platform in 8 or 9 years. They have continually shown that they don't respect either their customers or our system of government and law. Zuckerberg thinks he is some sort of god who can do whatever he wants. As he said at Techcruch in 2013: "Sometimes we move too fast and break a bunch of stuff and have to fix it, it's cool." That is NOT COOL. This is the man "safeguarding" your private information. Don't act surprised when these leaks happen, or foreign governments exploit them, or they capture your shadow data and sell it to the highest bidder. This is a bad man, and I'm ashamed that he is one of the most well known representatives of my generation. We were supposed to be better! Our parent's generation was all about greed and excess, consequences to future generations be damned. We were supposed to be better! I am really starting to hate my generation.
 
Dude, this is going to sound harsh, but if that's true it's partially your own fault (regarding the bolded part). There are other non-facebook ways to contact family and friends: Phone call, text messaging, seeing them in real life. You have to make an effort to actually see them.

I quit facebook a few years ago. I make it a point to call my friends and family every so often - at least once per quarter. It's not hard - 5-15 minute long conversations 4x a year is enough to catch up and stay in touch, and it feels a lot realer than facebook ever could.

Indeed I would argue contact on facebook is so superficial that it's not "real" contact. In other words, someone you haven't seen in years but only talk to on facebook is just that - someone you haven't seen in years.

Your tie to facebook to keep in contact with family and friends is completely illusory. Sure, you'll miss out on some conversations that don't matter and some stupid photos, but you won't miss out on anything that matters. You'll only miss out on things that matter if you don't make any effort to communicate with your friends and family in other ways - which is on and on them.

Not harsh at all, in my opinion your comment is honest and truthful. People are loosing the ability to talk to another human being face to face. In the old days (10 years ago) when waiting for a clerk at a bank, it was easy to talk to the person sitting next to you and have a conversation, today, that is impossible because the first thing people do is to stare at their phones and ignore what around them. This technology is hurting people because they are using it wrong (Jobs)... What can we do...
 
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