Considering the battery, wouldn’t be surprised if it didn’t work.yes another brick sold inside
Considering the battery, wouldn’t be surprised if it didn’t work.yes another brick sold inside
yesOh I’m sorry. You mean all these posts below?
but you areJust because you want me to be wrong, doesn’t mean I am 😘
As many have told you, there was NO subsidy. Go back and watch Steve's introduction. $599 was the price. Apple's price. The actual retail price of the original iPhone. (and, yes, I bought one at Fashion Valley San Diego at 11:30pm on release day). The fact that AT&T required a contract was due to their exclusivity on iPhone and the fact that they could require it. It had nothing to do with a "subsidy" - $599 went directly to Apple. Two year contract with AT&T for the privilege of buying one.I disagree with the $150 discount subsidization: I believe it was much higher.
I don’t think $150 was accurate. I am using this data from how the iPhone 4 was treated on Sprint: $200 subsidized on a two year plan, or $650 unlocked.
This is accurate. My house is paid off because of AAPL stock.According to ChatGPT, $600 invested in AAPL in 2007 would be worth more than a quarter million dollars today.
And “Apple’s price” later just magically changed to $200 on contract/subsidy? How do you explain that?yes
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As many have told you, there was NO subsidy. Go back and watch Steve's introduction. $599 was the price. Apple's price. The actual retail price of the original iPhone. (and, yes, I bought one at Fashion Valley San Diego at 11:30pm on release day). The fact that AT&T required a contract was due to their exclusivity on iPhone and the fact that they could require it. It had nothing to do with a "subsidy" - $599 went directly to Apple. Two year contract with AT&T for the privilege of buying one.
This is accurate. My house is paid off because of AAPL stock.
And “Apple’s price” later just magically changed to $200 on contract/subsidy? How do you explain that?
Products, especially Apple, are always MORE expensive on the first generation offering. They get LESS expensive later.
also, go back and watch events introducing the iPhone back when contracts was the norm… are they giving the unlocked price? No. They’re giving the $200 price.
Because there was no separation between plans and phone costs before T-Mobile came along (this is in the US)
I think ATT was ripping people off then. Only offering $150 to not buy a phone on contract sounds like a bad deal.What is being argued here is that "subsidies" came later. As I mentioned previously regarding the original iPhone, AT&T was typically giving customers $150 contract discounts on other smartphones at the time so with the iPhone they either kept the $150 for themselves (and iPhone buyers paid "full price" for a 2 year contract) or it was baked into the advertised price.
As I also mentioned, the contract/no-contract iPhone price differences did widen (to as much as $450) in later years. However, there's nothing to definitively show what it might have been with the original iPhone. I've been using $150 as that is what other smartphones were typically being discounted when purchased with 2 year AT&T contracts.
?? Separate iPhone contract/no-contract prices started to be promoted in 2008, well before T-Mobile became eligible (which wasn't until 2013) to sell iPhones in the U.S.
I think ATT was ripping people off then. Only offering $150 to not buy a phone on contract sounds like a bad deal.
Sorry, but I still think that there is no way that a first generation product from Apple would have “only” cost $599, or even $750 as you’re suggesting.
Apple was always about exclusivity and giving people better things but at a higher price tag. That $599 price tag was certainly in addition to more than $150 subsidy (more like $450).
Because if what you’re saying is true that $150 was the subsidy, then the iPhone at $200 two year contract was really in fact only $350. I want that deal!
Correct! And that’s in line with the pricing of most first gen tech! (I.e. very high, then moves to lower after iterations.)I can't specifically speak to what AT&T and/or Apple were doing but given how much iPhone prices dropped in a little over a year, I would say the original iPhone launch "packages" (phone and 2 year contract requirement) were overpriced. An 8GB iPhone in June 2007 was $599, three months later it was $399, and then in July 2008 the next generation 8GB iPhone 3G was just $199 (all with 2 year contracts). A 2/3rds drop in price!
Correct! And that’s in line with the pricing of most first gen tech! (I.e. very high, then moves to lower after iterations.)
Let’s see how this $3000 VR/AR goggle set pans out 🤓For them to lower prices 33% to 40% in less than three months shows that the launch prices were unrealistic. It's not common for Apple retail prices to drop that much that quickly.