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Got my red/black and silver/black Vapor Pro cases from Jacky Nie. Put on the red/black one and fitment is great and I love the look. I'll take pics and post tomorrow.

Question about the 2 thin padding strips that come with it...where are those supposed to go?

Here are the pics for the 2 Vapor Pros I received. The power button rattles but overall I'm pleased with the quality for the $ I paid. Including pics of the 2 padding strips in case anyone knows where those are supposed to go. I thought I might need them to get the fit more exact, but after tightening the screws the case is very secure as-is.
 

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This is what I got today from http://www.thefancy.com/things/268472839/Element-Vapor-Pro-Black-Ops-iPhone-4-Case , I think it is genuine, like this very much.


I really hope you did not pay $75 for that. Why would a 3rd party company sell an original black ops case that Element case themselves sell it for $150?

The transparent part of the case is a clear giveaway of this being a knock off.

This is so disappointing, people buying knock off cases and then turning it around to sell them as genuine cases.
 
Here are the pics for the 2 Vapor Pros I received. The power button rattles but overall I'm pleased with the quality for the $ I paid. Including pics of the 2 padding strips in case anyone knows where those are supposed to go. I thought I might need them to get the fit more exact, but after tightening the screws the case is very secure as-is.

if your power button rattles its because it needs a piece of that foam tape to hold it in place.
 
you have the first generation one because the plastic clear is the short version.

Here are the pics for the 2 Vapor Pros I received. The power button rattles but overall I'm pleased with the quality for the $ I paid. Including pics of the 2 padding strips in case anyone knows where those are supposed to go. I thought I might need them to get the fit more exact, but after tightening the screws the case is very secure as-is.
 
you have the first generation one because the plastic clear is the short version.

Yeah I did notice that when comparing to the ones on Element's web site but tell you the truth doesn't bother me at all. But good to point that out in case anyone else is buying from this seller and that's a concern.
 
I got a tracking number on Saturday morning. I can't track it yet though. I guess it hasn't been updated in the system, or she hasn't actually mailed it yet - just put the postage on it.

I take that back. I just checked and it's been accepted in the People's Republic of China. Hopefully it's a short trip to FL.

I emailed her and she sent me a tracking number yesterday. What site are you using to track it?
 
Use USPS.com to track it.. Much more reliable than the hong kong post site. Takes a few days for it to show up though usually
 
My 2 cases landed at JFK Sunday and the post office tried to deliver Monday (in FL) but I wasn't home. They need a signature. I will be picking them up today. I will try to post pictures later. If they are a good fit, I may order more.
 
Wrong. What you failed to point out is that he is using his own manufacturer connections in China. Whether or not those connections produce these knock-offs already is in question. All of these from aliexpress and dhgate come from the same place as evidenced by this thread. Even the sellers themselves are saying that they have to look at the new "batch" further evidencing that they are coming from the same origin.

If hasan does have a unique manufacturer, it would benefit him to have people review the quality. His own sense of quality is irrelevant. Do you trust car salesmen when they tell you a car is excellent quality? It's a little tougher to believe the sales person even though they could be very credible than to believe a group of your peers.

Again, hasan benefits from reviewers of his product. Again, this is standard practice knock-off or not. If you have an agenda against knock-offs, then you are in the wrong thread.


Wrong.

I'm not referring to the specific places where these are being manufactured (frankly, irrelevant). I was referring to people (as in this thread) who are buying these regardless of whether they have been "reviewed" and mostly buying off the premise that they are cheap relative to the originals and "good enough" quality.

In relation to Hasan, I'm pointing out that he really doesn't need to waste time to "market" his "copies" if he plans to sell them for approximately the same price as what people (as in this thread) are paying for. As stated before, people seem to be happy to buy this cheap (relative to the original) and "good enough" (relative to the original).

Regardless of how "unique" his manufacturer is, he's not going to make something "better" than the original quality wise.

As far as

His own sense of quality is irrelevant. Do you trust car salesmen when they tell you a car is excellent quality? It's a little tougher to believe the sales person even though they could be very credible than to believe a group of your peers.

Sorry, you're not making a reasonable comparison there. $20 vs $30,000 item does not weight the same from most people's value perspectives in this regards. And his sense of "quality" is not irrelevant since he does have originals to compare to (it's not rocket science). I find it pretty laughable for you to make a statement like that.

And as far as agenda's. None really. I bought a couple of dhgate.com (sans any reviews). Again, as many people (in this thread) have bought from a variety of sellers from ali and dhgate (without any reviews posted).

I guess you could say, I'm trying to help Hasan to not waste his money on "marketing" a product that doesn't really require it. All things equal, just him selling this from the states is enough of a differentiating factor for most people to order from him over ordering directly from China+2wks ship time. It's business 101 really.
 
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Just got my black ops from jacky Lin. And have put it on the phone.


All I can saw is WOW. Ordered on the 21/10 and it's here today. No loseness on the case at all it looks amazing on the phone and no degradation in signal or wifi. Haven't tested GPS yet. For £13 this is te best case ever. Looks bang on.
Very very happy and thank you to everyone on this thread.
 
Just got my black ops from jacky Lin. And have put it on the phone.


All I can saw is WOW. Ordered on the 21/10 and it's here today. No loseness on the case at all it looks amazing on the phone and no degradation in signal or wifi. Haven't tested GPS yet. For £13 this is te best case ever. Looks bang on.
Very very happy and thank you to everyone on this thread.

Really? No wiggle at all when on the phone? Do you have the 4 or the 4S? It seems as though all of the recent black ops have been slightly to extremely loose. If possible, could you provide pics of the rubber inserts that were included in your case? I'm thinking that these are the only reason that mine is slightly loose and just would like to see if that's the difference.

Nevertheless, congrats on the case! I love the look and feel of mine...just wish it fit perfectly.
 
I dont think I can leave negative feedback. Otherwise Id hold it offer his head to give me my refund immediately or ill write a bad review. I believe Im going to have to ship it back which is bs.

Wow, its 15-20$ for shipping to china (u have to get a number for tracking).........that sucks

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My 2 cases landed at JFK Sunday and the post office tried to deliver Monday (in FL) but I wasn't home. They need a signature. I will be picking them up today. I will try to post pictures later. If they are a good fit, I may order more.

Hi, what date did you order and from which seller ? Please let us know the quality, especially if its white :D, thanks
 
here is some positive news....however, we heard some bad reviews of Jacky Lin case as well.

For those that order from Jacky Lin, maybe you can share us which color you bought and which iphone you have (4 or 4S and white or black).

Maybe these phones have different size? I can't imagine the case come out different from the same manufacturing machine unless they have multiple machine with different specs, producing different sizes?



Just got my black ops from jacky Lin. And have put it on the phone.


All I can saw is WOW. Ordered on the 21/10 and it's here today. No loseness on the case at all it looks amazing on the phone and no degradation in signal or wifi. Haven't tested GPS yet. For £13 this is te best case ever. Looks bang on.
Very very happy and thank you to everyone on this thread.
 
Wrong.

I'm not referring to the specific places where these are being manufactured (frankly, irrelevant). I was referring to people (as in this thread) who are buying these regardless of whether they have been "reviewed" and mostly buying off the premise that they are cheap relative to the originals and "good enough" quality.

In relation to Hasan, I'm pointing out that he really doesn't need to waste time to "market" his "copies" if he plans to sell them for approximately the same price as what people (as in this thread) are paying for. As stated before, people seem to be happy to buy this cheap (relative to the original) and "good enough" (relative to the original).

While you're right that some people here are buying purely based off the cheap price, not everyone does so. Many of us are conscious of the reviews which is why most of us are purchasing from the same group of sellers. We are basing our purchases off of the reviews and experiences of previous customers in this thread.

I'm sure Hasan will do good regardless as he's not looking to go big anyway. But he is making a smart move by having people review the cases because if they are in fact quality, the reviews will reflect that. Then others that see this review will have many reasons to purchase Hasan's product over a Chinese seller's.

Regardless of how "unique" his manufacturer is, he's not going to make something "better" than the original quality wise.

This comment of yours highlights your logic. You are jumping to conclusions without any evidence. Please tell me how you know that Hasan's manufacturer won't make a "better" product than the original. You just made a blind assumption. Actually I did as well. I'm blindly assuming that you do not know which manufacturer he is using nor do you know the true quality of the original's. I don't think my assumption is really that far out though. All of this is a moot point anyway as "better" is largely subjective.



Sorry, you're not making a reasonable comparison there. $20 vs $30,000 item does not weight the same from most people's value perspectives in this regards. And his sense of "quality" is not irrelevant since he does have originals to compare to (it's not rocket science). I find it pretty laughable for you to make a statement like that.

I find your comprehension laughable. I used the car salesmen analogy because of the widely known stereotype of them being swindlers. Here, I'll use a dumbed down analogy:

Would you believe a knock-off retailer in a swap meet if they tell you that the quality is exactly the same as the product they are copying? Oh, the hypothetical product is only $20 by the way. I hope you don't. Many of us like to know what others think about the product we are about to purchase. Heck, I like to read reviews of restaurants before I eat at them. Yelp?


I guess you could say, I'm trying to help Hasan to not waste his money on "marketing" a product that doesn't really require it. All things equal, just him selling this from the states is enough of a differentiating factor for most people to order from him over ordering directly from China+2wks ship time. It's business 101 really.

I agree, this probably would hold true. Very likely to be clear. But this does not mean it's good business. I don't know what business classes you took, but the ones I took stressed ethics over profits. How does ethics apply here? We have a seller that can very likely sell his product without the need to send free samples out for review. However, he offered it which shows that he wants to stand behind the product he sells. I commend business practices like this. Stand by what you sell. The very best way to do this is to prove to consumers that your product is worthy of purchase. This is why focus groups exist. This is why snowboard companies send me pre-production boards to review before they release them. THAT IS BUSINESS 101.

By the way, I have a B.S. in business administration so I'm not talking out of my behind.

Have a nice day.

P.S. Sending out a couple of samples is not wasting money. Remember, his cost is much lower than ours. We are probably talking about a few dollars here. Furthermore, it's good to have a positive standing with your products. Sending out a few samples will enable you to make better judgment on whether or not your product is quality before you start selling. Selling based solely on what YOU THINK is quality is a gamble. People might hate it and review it as such. Now you have products leftover that people won't want. Even if you sell those off, you now have a bad standing with people.
 
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While you're right that some people here are buying purely based off the cheap price, not everyone does so. Many of us are conscious of the reviews which is why most of us are purchasing from the same group of sellers. We are basing our purchases off of the reviews and experiences of previous customers in this thread.

I'm sure Hasan will do good regardless as he's not looking to go big anyway. But he is making a smart move by having people review the cases because if they are in fact quality, the reviews will reflect that. Then others that see this review will have many reasons to purchase Hasan's product over a Chinese seller's.



This comment of yours highlights your logic. You are jumping to conclusions without any evidence. Please tell me how you know that Hasan's manufacturer won't make a "better" product than the original. You just made a blind assumption. Actually I did as well. I'm blindly assuming that you do not know which manufacturer he is using nor do you know the true quality of the original's. I don't think my assumption is really that far out though. All of this is a moot point anyway as "better" is largely subjective.





I find your comprehension laughable. I used the car salesmen analogy because of the widely known stereotype of them being swindlers. Here, I'll use a dumbed down analogy:

Would you believe a knock-off retailer in a swap meet if they tell you that the quality is exactly the same as the product they are copying? Oh, the hypothetical product is only $20 by the way. I hope you don't. Many of us like to know what others think about the product we are about to purchase. Heck, I like to read reviews of restaurants before I eat at them. Yelp?




I agree, this probably would hold true. Very likely to be clear. But this does not mean it's good business. I don't know what business classes you took, but the ones I took stressed ethics over profits. How does ethics apply here? We have a seller that can very likely sell his product without the need to send free samples out for review. However, he offered it which shows that he wants to stand behind the product he sells. I commend business practices like this. Stand by what you sell. The very best way to do this is to prove to consumers that your product is worthy of purchase. This is why focus groups exist. This is why snowboard companies send me pre-production boards to review before they release them. THAT IS BUSINESS 101.

By the way, I have a B.S. in business administration so I'm not talking out of my behind.

Have a nice day.

P.S. Sending out a couple of samples is not wasting money. Remember, his cost is much lower than ours. We are probably talking about a few dollars here. Furthermore, it's good to have a positive standing with your products. Sending out a few samples will enable you to make better judgment on whether or not your product is quality before you start selling. Selling based solely on what YOU THINK is quality is a gamble. People might hate it and review it as such. Now you have products leftover that people won't want. Even if you sell those off, you now have a bad standing with people.

THIS..

The funny thing is... most of these "fakes" are made in the same factories that the "real" ones come from. These chinese factories are contracted to make X amount of product for a company at X per piece.

Now... once they make those pieces, they can shift into extra time, make more of it, since they do have the technology AND patterns/blueprints of the products. Now these products go out the back door and right onto the streets.

And truthfully, most of these factories make MORE money off these "knockoffs" that they produce. So for a company in china, it would make fore sense to produce these knockoffs.
 
Really? No wiggle at all when on the phone? Do you have the 4 or the 4S? It seems as though all of the recent black ops have been slightly to extremely loose. If possible, could you provide pics of the rubber inserts that were included in your case? I'm thinking that these are the only reason that mine is slightly loose and just would like to see if that's the difference.

Nevertheless, congrats on the case! I love the look and feel of mine...just wish it fit perfectly.

No wiggle at all on the phone. It has rubberized inserts over 80% of the inside I would say. Doesn't move up or down or forward or backwards at all

I'm well chuffed. I'll post some pics up tomorrow.

Oh and I have the 4s

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here is some positive news....however, we heard some bad reviews of Jacky Lin case as well.

For those that order from Jacky Lin, maybe you can share us which color you bought and which iphone you have (4 or 4S and white or black).

Maybe these phones have different size? I can't imagine the case come out different from the same manufacturing machine unless they have multiple machine with different specs, producing different sizes?

As stated I got the black ops and it's on my 4s loving it. Case is perfect
 
Hi everyone

I order from Cindy a white vapor pro as of this past sunday it showed that it had gotten to NY. The problem I am having is its been 3 days and its still shows that the last scan was in NY and I still have not gotten it. I called USPS and they told me same thing that it was processed through NY on sunday the 30th and said there were no more details he could give me. I live in FL I would have thought I would have gotten it by now should I be worried or contact cindy ?

Thanks
 
Hi everyone

I order from Cindy a white vapor pro as of this past sunday it showed that it had gotten to NY. The problem I am having is its been 3 days and its still shows that the last scan was in NY and I still have not gotten it. I called USPS and they told me same thing that it was processed through NY on sunday the 30th and said there were no more details he could give me. I live in FL I would have thought I would have gotten it by now should I be worried or contact cindy ?

Thanks

Mine left NY yesterday sometime. I suppose I will get it by Saturday.

Registered Mail is slow so I wouldn't worry about it too much. USPS will probably only update tracking again when it arrives in Florida.
 
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