Fallout 4 free weekend on Steam

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  1. maflynn Moderator

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    Fallout 4 is probably my favorite game of all time, though I play it on the PS4, I saw that Steam is having a free weekend promotion for the base game, plus you can purchase it for 50%
     
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    I believe Fall Out 5 is likely at least another two years out, but I'm hoping maybe during the Electronic Entertainment Expo in June, Bethesda might hint towards a teaser towards the game. They like to keep their fans triggered. It's one the game that one can invest Over 300 hours if you wanted too. Modifying, looting and Leveling Up is incredibly fun. Amazing game.
     
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    I'm getting used to the differences, in used to the ps4 controller, it's quite different trying to move with my left hand and user the right for other things

    I'm toying with the console and what not
     
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    I have the regular ps4. It's great but I wanted to try the pc version for a couple of reasons. First of the TV is being used by my kids and secondly try the various mods and console commands. I have some access to mods on the ps4 but not as much as on the pc
     
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    I would think Fallout 5 would be a candidate for PS5 and Xbox Two... ;)
     
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    Off topic , but You're probably right. I planned on purchasing the X-Box One X late spring. But since Red Dead Redemption 2 was delayed by Rockstar for a second time until October 26, thats likely when I will pick the X. A lot of games coming out this Fall, which I switch between my PS4 Pro and X.
     
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    I don't play much games on my computer, mostly because my main computer is an iMac, and tbh, I'd rather sit in a more comfy chair (my recliner) when playing games which is what I do with my PS4.

    With that said, I found that I'm so used to the controller for the PS4, that working the keyboard to play the game was awkward at best. I totally understand that in time, I'd be more used to the keyboard but I didn't find any value in spending $$ on a game, I already owned (on the PS4), and dealing with the differences with the keyboard.

    I wanted access to more mods and the console which is why I tried it, but in the end, I think I'm better off just playing it on the PS4 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    ...a tremendous game. If there is anyone who has not played it, take your time on the main quest, do everything else. I have a serious critique:

    I’m critical that Bethesda did not offer a path to take over The Institute and use it’s technology for the good of mankind. You are put in a position of becoming one of them or vaporizing the single greatest repository human advancement and backnstabbing all of your friends in the various factions.

    There is a way to come up with a more satisfying ending, but it requires an online guide to help you choose the best path for a happy ending for most factions, unless you are smarter than me. :) it’s still a GREAT game.
     
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    I don't think we need to worry about spoilers now, given the game is out so long ;)

    The issue as I see it, is that the Instittute represents the old prewar way. As you wander the commonwealth, you notice the evidences of how the government, and large corporations had treated people as test subjects, also how schools were used to invest in military technogology. That low regard to everyone else, and the high level of arrogance over their way of life meant that internally the institute being so insular, felt the commonwealth was full of savages and all hope was lost. They were mankinds only hope.
     
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    Yes, but your character as someone who is new to the post apocalyptic world, has the perspective and awareness that the Institute holds invaluable technology, the key to mankind’s future, information which would help the species recover, versus spend several hundred even a thousand years to return to the same point of technology advancement. If there was another way, blowing up the knowledge the Institute contained was a crime against mankind! :)

    I chose the relatively happy ending where 3 factions survive, because I was unwilling to join the Institute and kill off the factions. To achieve this, you more or less have to go against the direction and choices the developers present, to achieve it. During my mission into the Institute, the entire time, I thought this is stupid. If it had been up to me, I would have taken it over, because the facility was invaluable, or at a minimum would have captured all the tech info before vaporizing it. That was not an option the developers offered. It was sobering watching the nuke go off.
     
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    I prefered siding with the Railroad, that to me makes the most sense.
    The BOS are xenophobic with a side of lunacy. I enjoyed destorying them :)
    The Institute is evil, i.e., kidnapping and replacing people with synths, running the FEV program creating super mutants. Even thawing out the hero was just an experiment that Father wanted to run.

    I've played through just about all of the options, even the one that has the three factions surviving, and to me siding with the railroad is the most enjoyable, even after the institute is destroyed, the quests it provides is the most robust imo.
     
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    I could have destroyed the Brotherhood, but I liked both the Railroad and the Minutemen, hence I chose the 3 faction ending, although I suppose I could have just gone over there (BOS) and murdered everyone. ;)

    That said I hoped with the Institute gone, there was a chance for the Brotherhood to change for the better. One of the most enjoyable missions was when tasked to terminate a certain primary Brotherhood character, I was able to set him free, for a reason I won’t mention. :D

    I almost want to start this game over again. Hmm, what would I do different?

    Anyone play this in VR? If so, how hard is navigating the menus?
     
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    I've done that, a number of times. I enjoy doing different what if scenerios
     
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    I also dislike keyboard and mouse gaming over using a controller - I believe there is a way of using a PS4 controller with a Mac but I have never been able to make it work properly? Xbox controllers supposedly now work natively with a windows computer that has Bluetooth, but I don’t have an Xbox to try it out.
     
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    I was toying with the idea of buying a compatible game controller and going that route, but the idea is to just be a secondary means of playing and maybe toying with the environment. My point is, I really don't want to invest a lot of time and energy to make it work. I agree, I just was not enjoying the game on my iMac.

    Back to my PS4. My arragement is better with the PS4, i.e., sitting in a recliner anyways :D
     
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    Yeah that sounds like the way to do it! :D

    On fallout, It's one series I haven't tried yet, is it good for someone who likes the elder scrolls series? I understand thematically it's very different, but is the gameplay style and the mechanics comparable?
     
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    Think overall you will still play the game the same way as you would on a console, though I found it to be slower going for me. I can only attribute that to the fact I had trouble with using the game on a keyboard.
     
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    I played Elder Scrolls Oblivion for over a year, and loved it’s environment, atmosphere, and open nature (although there were screen loads when entering towns and dungeons). The see that mountain, climb that mountain was very immersive. Skyrim was very playable and also a win, although they short changed spell creation. Fallout 3 did not click for me because of the scenery, but Fallout 4 did.

    What sold me on F4 was that I loved the building aspect of settlements, where you would help establish, build, and nurture settlements which in the PC version greatly benefited from mods. Two hundred years after the boom, I believe dead trees would have fallen long ago, and the forests areas if there were trees would be full of live trees... with leaves. ;) On the PC there is a green Earth Mod, which actually made the grass green.

    And in a post apocalyptic world with the ability to build complex machinery, people would be able to build settlements that did not look like junk piles, not to say there would be no junk pile settlements.

    In sanctuary, I was really aggravated that old neighborhood houses could not be altered structurally. I relied on a mod which gave me the ability to wipe these houses down to the foundations and build something better in their place. And another mod that removed restrictions on the amount of building material that could be placed in a settlement was a big help. I believe the vanilla game had this restriction to keep the frame rate up, but I never had a performance issues with this mod.

    My preference is keyboard mouse. I chose the assassin build, did not care for the clunky mech build. Speaking of VR again, I wonder that besides making F4 VR capable, did they change the menu structures, or how menus are accessed. This could be a good case where a controller might be the ticket (for VR play).
     
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    Fallout 4

    300 easily. I clocked 470+ hours on Fallout 4 on the PS4.
     
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    If you want to get into this series, I think Fallout 3 is much better than 4.

    In Fallout 4 they've toned down the strategic part of combat and turned it into more of a first-person shooter. They tacked on an absolutely dreadful sub-Minecraft building mode, and they give you loads of useless settlements to micro-manage, with citizens who can't wipe their own asses without you having to show up first and clear out a zombie infestation from the outhouse.

    Most good items have to be crafted out of dozens of pieces of junk, which is tedious and clogs up your inventory with rubbish. It's riddled with unkillable characters, and the factions you have to choose between are bland, forgettable and badly written.

    Fallout 3 has much more freedom and less clutter. The story is flexible enough that they didn't need to make key characters immortal. Better map, better plot, better pacing. Fallout 4 was a bloated disappointment (in my opinion).
     
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    I agree that the base building needs a lot of work, but it’s still one of my favourite features in Fallout4.

    After spending 470+ hours in the wasteland I needed more. So I got Wasteland 2. Top-down, turn based, tactical combat. Good stuff.
    The people who made it were involved in the original Fallout games back in the 90s before the franchise got sold to Bethesda.
     
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    Well, I'm just ranting because I thought it was such a disappointment as a sequel to one of the best games ever.

    I'm not denying there's a ton of content in there, but Fallout 4 is very narrowly focused. The beginning makes it seem like it will be open but by the end of it you've been forced down one of a small number of clearly defined paths. There's not so much role-playing scope to it, whereas in Fallout 3 you have countless routes to the end and a character that really reflects the way you choose to play. Fallout 3 is a proper RPG but Fallout 4 is a kind of pumped-up action game.

    Of course you can just try it for free and make your own mind up... (but play Fallout 3 first, it's so much better)
     
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    I obviously disagree with this appraisal. :D :p I did admit building could have been much better, but I enjoyed building, and getting settlements started.
     
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    IMHO, the lesson that you shouldn't take on too many settlements was part of the story. You can't be everyone's daddy, right? Just like IRL, sometimes you take on too much responsibility out of the goodness of your heart and disappoint people, and they get devoured by zombies. That's just life.

    I have not played FO4 in VR, although I'm dying to. I have been playing Skyrim on PSVR and it's mind-blowing. Honestly the greatest gaming experience of my life, and I've been playing since Pong came out.

    I know that FO4's engine is nowhere near optimized enough for the PS4 to run it in VR, but I'd *love* to play New Vegas in VR.
     

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