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Fanboyism Is Ruining Apple

shambo

shambo

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Is it just me or is anyone else sick to the back teeth of the blatant fanboyism towards anything Apple? These idiots are helping to prevent what are essentially good satisfactory products becoming great ones by accepting anything faulty Apple releases as acceptable and useable, and whatever Mr Jobs says as gospel.

This has been perfectly illustrated this week with the release of the iPhone 4. Where, believe it or not, Apple have actually designed, developed, mass produced, and released to the general public a telecommunication device that cannot telecommunicate, especially when held in a certain manner. However instead of, as any genuinely concerned company would do, initiating an immediate mass recall and refund, Apple and their fanboys are telling us that, yet again, the problem lies with the user, not the device. So it has now been left to the consumer to adapt and change their most natural telephone posture.

Again maybe it is just me but whenever I spend over £600 on a new shiny electrical device I expect it to 'just work'.

Thumbs down to fanboyism.
 
shambo said:
Is it just me or is anyone else sick to the back teeth of the blatant fanboyism towards anything Apple? These idiots are helping to prevent what are essentially good satisfactory products becoming great ones by accepting anything faulty Apple releases as acceptable and useable, and whatever Mr Jobs says as gospel.

This has been perfectly illustrated this week with the release of the iPhone 4. Where, believe it or not, Apple have actually designed, developed, mass produced, and released to the general public a telecommunication device that cannot telecommunicate, especially when held in a certain manner. However instead of, as any genuinely concerned company would do, initiating an immediate mass recall and refund, Apple and their fanboys are telling us that, yet again, the problem lies with the user, not the device. So it has now been left to the consumer to adapt and change their most natural telephone posture.

Again maybe it is just me but whenever I spend over £600 on a new shiny electrical device I expect it to 'just work'.

Thumbs down to fanboyism.
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I do not disagree. But I also believe Apple is held to a higher standard whereby anything critical is blown out of proportion. There was not nearly this much coverage of the Nexus One having similar issues. In fact, I can replicate this antenna issue on an N1 and on a Blackberry - if I try hard enough.

So fanboyism and trollism cuts both ways.
 
shambo said:
Again maybe it is just me but whenever I spend over £600 on a new shiny electrical device I expect it to 'just work'.
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Whether you believe it or not, for some people it does just work.

My wife and I aren't experiencing any problems with our phones.

I'm probably more tired of the irrational over-the-top complainers.
 
shambo said:
Is it just me or is anyone else sick to the back teeth of the blatant fanboyism towards anything Apple? These idiots are helping to prevent what are essentially good satisfactory products becoming great ones by accepting anything faulty Apple releases as acceptable and useable, and whatever Mr Jobs says as gospel.

This has been perfectly illustrated this week with the release of the iPhone 4. Where, believe it or not, Apple have actually designed, developed, mass produced, and released to the general public a telecommunication device that cannot telecommunicate, especially when held in a certain manner. However instead of, as any genuinely concerned company would do, initiating an immediate mass recall and refund, Apple and their fanboys are telling us that, yet again, the problem lies with the user, not the device. So it has now been left to the consumer to adapt and change their most natural telephone posture.

Again maybe it is just me but whenever I spend over £600 on a new shiny electrical device I expect it to 'just work'.

Thumbs down to fanboyism.
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I am a fanboy, I'll admit it. But I do think there's an issue here, and I do think Apple should fix it. However, I also think it's being blown out of proportion. For example, just here "A telecommunication device that can't telecommute". I can only assume you don't have an iPhone, and have believed the hype that touching the device anywhere causes it to spiral out of control and lose signal.

That's not the case. For several hours I was entirely unable to reproduce this issue at all on my iPhone, and have since gotten it to happen, but not entirely consistently, and it certainly doesn't effect my actual use of the phone (no way I normally holds it causes the issue, I'm close when I hold it in my left hand, but even that seems to be fine as far as I can tell).

So while yes, some fanboys won't admit there's a real issue, there's also the inverse of people making statements about the issue that simply don't reconcile with reality.

Regardless, there is an issue, and I sincerely hope apple develops a way to fix it quickly.
 
hahaha you keep saying that mate, there is nothin wrong with my iphone am loving every min of it thats the truth!

and people like you going on about a problem that will be fixed by apple and only like 10% of phone have the problem are doing more damage than what your going on about.

and yet you can not see that going on and on about this small problem (that will be fixed) is doing a truck load more damage.

Irony :/
 
Lets not forget that Apple has a great OS and the biggest app store ecosystem out there, and that they've never had a problem quite as severe as this antenna thing. Maybe the fanboys will finally be drawn away by this.
 
Loyal customers like myself, are good for a business. In fact we are one of their best assets because we spread word of mouth endorsements.

Fanboys do harm. Since they believe anything they are told by the person in the company they worship, they cast a juvenile negative light on the product.

This is the primary reason why windows computers dominate mainstream America. Between the arrogant elitist attitude of Steve Jobs and his band of followers (fanboys) and the way he treats issues like the iPhone problem, no one wins.
 
shambo said:
Is it just me or is anyone else sick to the back teeth of the blatant fanboyism towards anything Apple? These idiots are helping to prevent what are essentially good satisfactory products becoming great ones by accepting anything faulty Apple releases as acceptable and useable, and whatever Mr Jobs says as gospel.

This has been perfectly illustrated this week with the release of the iPhone 4. Where, believe it or not, Apple have actually designed, developed, mass produced, and released to the general public a telecommunication device that cannot telecommunicate, especially when held in a certain manner. However instead of, as any genuinely concerned company would do, initiating an immediate mass recall and refund, Apple and their fanboys are telling us that, yet again, the problem lies with the user, not the device. So it has now been left to the consumer to adapt and change their most natural telephone posture.

Again maybe it is just me but whenever I spend over £600 on a new shiny electrical device I expect it to 'just work'.

Thumbs down to fanboyism.
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As I type this, I am effectively looking at a £500 iPod
which goes under the name of "iPhone 4".

Signal reception is far worse than my old Nokia N95 and
even older Nokia 3510i; to make a call without losing signal
on my new iPhone I have to go outside. All of that is with a
bumper so you could say that £525-worth of phone performs
less well at making calls than the £50 3510i from over half
a decade ago.

I have considered changing networks (currently on 3)
and even went back to the Brent Cross Apple Store to check
the signal strength of the variously networked iPhone 4s
that they had and they were all quite good so that doesn't
seem to be a solution (my one performed quite well as well,
by the way).

Ultimately the point that I'm trying to make is that my 3 N95
was perfectly usable in my home whereas my 3-simmed
iPhone 4 isn't. That's not progress.

P.S. Maybe the problems Steve Jobs had at the iPhone unveiling
regarding wi-fi was a sign of things to come. Hindsight makes us all
geniuses :(
 
Steviejobz said:
I do not disagree. But I also believe Apple is held to a higher standard whereby anything critical is blown out of proportion. There was not nearly this much coverage of the Nexus One having similar issues. In fact, I can replicate this antenna issue on an N1 and on a Blackberry - if I try hard enough.

So fanboyism and trollism cuts both ways.
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I’m sure that whenever another company sells 1.5 million of any product on launch day, it will be held to the same standard as Apple….
 
shambo said:
I like Apple products however I will NEVER accept anything fault like a phone that doesn't phone. :rolleyes:
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Is this your first iPhone? iPhone is notorious for being a lousy phone. For me, 100% phone call reliability is not a requirement relative to getting email, conducting some productivity, games, etc. I can live with 75% call reliability and in fact I get more.

If you had to have 100% call reliability then maybe a Samsung or Nokia might be better?

Don't buy an iPhone just to be cool and then complain about phone call reliability when that is not a surprise. That puts you several notches below a fanboy.
 
Steviejobz said:
I do not disagree. But I also believe Apple is held to a higher standard whereby anything critical is blown out of proportion.
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Respectfully, I disagree.

The reason it may seem that way, is a direct result of the fact that Steve Jobs goes to great lengths to exaggerate the capabilities of Apples products. He's like an adult age man that hasn't grown up. By bragging about the superiority of the product, he sets unrealistic customer expectations. Then when the product fails to live up to the hype, people (fanboys) come to his defense. It's a self defeating problem.
 
Dude with the "Badboy Pro™":rolleyes:, what you call "fanboyism" is what kept Apple in business during its darker days. W/o them there would be no Apple today. Honestly, it's really hard to take anyone's post seriously who has a sig not only calling their computer "badboy pro" but also putting a trademark symbol by it. It's guys like you that make me cringe the most.
 
shambo said:
I like Apple products however I will NEVER accept anything fault like a phone that doesn't phone.
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ChiliBlue said:
Then return it and move on with your life.
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I'm on my second 4G and that's what I'm doing... and since I am a fan, I will probably get an iPad.

So, in the end, Apple will have an extra $100 of my money, but at least it won't be for faulty products...
 
Fanboyism is ruining the internet, not just Apple - and it is spread across many products and brands.

Also the term "snappy" should be banned.
 
OasisNYK said:
Fanboyism is ruining the internet, not just Apple - and it is spread across many products and brands.
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I know. It really pisses me off when I go to the Braves message board and everyone is rooting for the Braves and kicking the Phillies and Mets. Damn fans! Can't we all just root for all teams together and hope for a tie? These fans are just ruining sports. :rolleyes:
 
OasisNYK said:
Fanboyism is ruining the internet, not just Apple - and it is spread across many products and brands.

Also the term "snappy" should be banned.
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Fanboyism is nothing new. One of the oldest ones is still being played out in the middle east, albeit much more violently.

But it's interesting to see that when it happens in consumer products, it happens only when there is a sizable emotional content in the purchasing decision making and only if there is an emotional payback in being associated with it in social groups. You rarely see this kind of fanboyism over something like toilet paper. But I could be wrong and will soon find people arguing over that too.
 
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