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LOL this is hilariously incorrect. Steve Jobs apple apologized and gave out a $29 bumper case.

And cook charges you $29. Jobs apple also would have rolled back the changes.

Does not matter, as this was all done to avoid a battery replacement under warranty. Cook has turned apple into such a penny pinching compnay that this was allowed to happen . You will also find that jobs had big disagreements about pricing , he wanted his products for Everyone, while Cook is targeting the rich.....was a great company that got super greedy
 
Ah, yes, the old “if you can’t prove it, it’s not possible” retort.
No one said it isn’t possible, but there have been several actual analysis of those claims and they have been proven to be false, so I ask where your data is?
 
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And cook charges you $29. Jobs apple also would have rolled back the changes.

Does not matter, as this was all done to avoid a battery replacement under warranty. Cook has turned apple into such a penny pinching compnay that this was allowed to happen . You will also find that jobs had big disagreements about pricing , he wanted his products for Everyone, while Cook is targeting the rich.....was a great company that got super greedy
Uh.... unless you’re in the EU the warranty on the battery is one year. Not sure where your claim that a technical fix to stop shutdowns is somehow really to prevent warranty battery replacements, but go ahead and conflate away...
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Provide the technical data proving your claims the slow downs don’t happen.

These retorts are getting silly.....only ask if you have data to support your claim, which you don’t....
You didn’t ask me for data, so hold your damn horses if you’re actually interested in the topic while I get you a link.

https://www.macrumors.com/2017/10/06/apple-doesnt-deliberately-slow-older-iphones/

Now obviously it’s linked to by MR, but MR is NOT the source.
 
Shutdowns should be expected in a 6 year old phone. Surprised battery runs at all. Common sense says it up to you to replace the offending battery. Apple has no business getting involved with throttling.

Indeed, just thought that it was worth pointing out that both shutdowns and poor performance were already issues with older batteries/phones before the fix/feature/whatever you want to label it came into affect. We probably should have replaced the batteries years ago, but hey, we're cheap enough to not upgrade for six years so....;)
 
You just debunked it yourself in the first sentence. If CPU speeds aren't constant, how can you make a comparison using that app? There's no way of knowing if you're actually measuring voltage related throttling or not.

Oh, okay. So you have no proof. Next time, say so instead of playing these little games.
 
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Other FAQs to add:
1) Why not cover all ios devices running ios 10 which were crippled by the update? (5, 5C, 5S)
2) My iPhone 6s was recalled due to a defective battery causing premature shutdowns. Apple replaced it with a new battery and I recall an upcoming software update to resolve this in the future. hmmmmmm
3) Why does this not affect other manufactures, only Apple?

I think this class action lawsuit will sting and hopefully teaches apple to not be selective when providing release notes.
 
Meanwhile Jony is sitting in the corner, rocking back and forth, repeating to himself, "thin, thinner, thinnest..."
[doublepost=1515011459][/doublepost]Come to think of it... Ive himself seems to be breaking his thinner is better rule.

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Uh.... unless you’re in the EU the warranty on the battery is one year. Not sure where your claim that a technical fix to stop shutdowns is somehow really to prevent warranty battery replacements, but go ahead and conflate away...
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You didn’t ask me for data, so hold your damn horses if you’re actually interested in the topic while I get you a link.

https://www.macrumors.com/2017/10/06/apple-doesnt-deliberately-slow-older-iphones/

Now obviously it’s linked to by MR, but MR is NOT the source.

How interesting Mac Rumors posted that story last October right before the poop hit the fan, geekbench and ifixit provided masses of data to prove they were slowing iPhone downs, and right before APPLE THEMSELVES ADMITTED IT!!

To claim Apple doesn’t throttle devices is to literally deny Apple has just admitted to doing exactly that.... have you literally spent the last two weeks with your fingers in your ears shouting lalalalalala with your eyes closed? I mean the title of the story you linked to is:

Apple Doesn't Deliberately Slow Down Older Devices According to Benchmark Analysis
 
You didn’t ask me for data, so hold your damn horses if you’re actually interested in the topic while I get you a link.

https://www.macrumors.com/2017/10/06/apple-doesnt-deliberately-slow-older-iphones/

Now obviously it’s linked to by MR, but MR is NOT the source.

The article literally says “these type of test are not indiciative of real world performance.” It also says that new features can eat up more resources, causing slow downs in older devices. That is exactly what I put forward as a possibility of “we’re doing it, but in a very sneaky way.”

If it is indeed a case of much higher resource usage, they need to let us downgrade. I’d go back to ios9 in a heartbeat if it meant I could actually use my iPhone 6 again.
 
Working perfectly fine....until they shut off randomly on walks. I had that experience for months, then suddenly my problem was fixed and I could actually make it through a walk without it shutting off in the cold.

Are you seriously contending that the shutdown issue this software addressed didn't exist?

That's not what I said. I said millions of iPhone 6 phones were working perfectly fine before the update. My family owns 4. AFAIK, the issue was with 6S. Also, there's no evidence that the iPhones were crashing because of low voltage to the CPU. The CPU needs about 1/3 the voltage of a completely discharged lithium battery.

What was actually happening was poorly-written software in iOS would misjudge the remaining charge capacity in the battery, and prematurely tell the system to shutdown (or halt). Slowing the CPU was a hack to prevent perfectly harmless voltage dips, rather than fixing the real problem: the algorithm that tracks how much charge remains.
 
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You forgot the following questions:

1. Why is the throttling being applied just last year, after 10 years of iPhones? What happened to the 5s for example?

2. Could there be a hardware design issue with regards to quality/capability of battery/system Apple is using and this throttling is just a workaround due to the bad/cheap design?

3. Why isn't Apple aiming at higher battery quality like Samsung is now adopting for S8? A typical battery degrades to 80% after 2 years, Samsung's new design only goes down to 95%.
I'm with you on that. I knew from the start that Apple would regret putting tiny batteries in these newer iPhones and it looks like I was right. My 6S is suffering from slow performance when my unit never did this silly non-sense. In fact I don't ever recall a time when my 6S randomly turned off at an inconvenient time, not even when my battery was at 80% on 10.2 with a jailbreak enabled.
 
This is only my opinion, but all the story is a mess like this article. By chance all these things happened (not in a logical order, if any is present):
1 By chance, the slowdown code was introduced for phones of the previous generation;
2 By chance the slowdown made the phones to look outdated
3 By chance the slowdown happened before a major release
4 By chance the slowdown happened before xmas season
5 By chance Apple gave a statement after a large amount of data had been disclosed on the net
6 By chance Apple offered reduced battery prices while the conspiracy theories were growing up

I don't know why, but I will not update my iPhone 8 next year.
 
This is only my opinion, but all the story is a mess like this article. By chance all these things happened (not in a logical order, if any is present):
1 By chance, the slowdown code was introduced for phones of the previous generation;
2 By chance the slowdown made the phones to look outdated
3 By chance the slowdown happened before a major release
4 By chance the slowdown happened before xmas season
5 By chance Apple gave a statement after a large amount of data had been disclosed on the net
6 By chance Apple offered reduced battery prices while the conspiracy theories were growing up

I don't know why, but I will not update my iPhone 8 next year.
Yeah it's at the point where it isn't even safe to go to the second iOS version supported on your device.
 
Yeah it's at the point where it isn't even safe to go to the second iOS version supported on your device.

Can't wait to see Apple's pie chart about installed iOS versions at WWDC in 2 years. I bet it will hit a point where the numbers are decreasing.

EDIT: instead of 83% of phones running latest iOS it'll be 74% or something.
 
Apple is getting away with something here if it ends with this. There is a reason they are quickly offering everyone a $29 battery replacement (for a year only) to get this to go away. Total speculation by me, but I believe there is a design issue here that is causing their devices, starting with the 6, to become unstable when the battery ages. I've never heard of a device needing to be slowed down when the battery ages. They are probably doing this to avoid a mass recall. Hopefully the court cases will do enough discovery to really find out what is going on. Apple is probably quickly fixing things in the newer devices so this isn't a problem, or isn't exposed. And by then, most of the older ones will start to reach end of life and this will blow over.

Um...ok....really, it's not that deep. Apple screwed up, they are taking measures to fix it.
 
Can't wait to see Apple's pie chart about installed iOS versions at WWDC in 2 years. I bet it will hit a point where the numbers are decreasing.
I doubt that, because the normies won't know the difference and update their phones just because it said to.
 
Apple secretly slipped the throttling into an iOS update without telling anyone and only fessed up when they were caught red-handed. I am afraid by any definition that is dishonest, sound technical reasons or not.
I think it's a load of crap too, because I had a laptop with a battery that was at 50% and wouldn't ever randomly shutoff, crash, or warn me if something was wrong, because there never was anything wrong. It would drain and the battery percentage shown in Windows was always spot on with the battery.
 
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This is only my opinion, but all the story is a mess like this article. By chance all these things happened (not in a logical order, if any is present):
1 By chance, the slowdown code was introduced for phones of the previous generation;
2 By chance the slowdown made the phones to look outdated
3 By chance the slowdown happened before a major release
4 By chance the slowdown happened before xmas season
5 By chance Apple gave a statement after a large amount of data had been disclosed on the net
6 By chance Apple offered reduced battery prices while the conspiracy theories were growing up

I don't know why, but I will not update my iPhone 8 next year.

Used to get excited about a new ios update every year. Now I fear it and pray it won't ruin my device.
 
I've read that Apple will ONLY fix your battery if the wear is more than 20% and the battery cycle is no more than 500.

But how the f... do we check the cycle? I mean, for me personally, I think I don't have to worry because my phone was replaced with a refurbished one a year ago and I don't believe I had made over 500 cycles but still... iFixit is the other option for me which I find more convenient but not sure about the battery quality.
 
For what it's worth, my wife and I still have a pair of 4S's, coming up on six years old (planning on getting a couple of X's in the near future). My phone constantly shuts itself off/restarts if it is doing anything mildly intensive and/or the charge is somewhat low. It's also extremely slow in doing even simple tasks half the time - again, mostly if the battery is below 50% or so, which happens pretty quickly since it can't seem to keep a charge for long either. My wife's phone doesn't shut itself off nearly as often, but it is also extremely slow to the point where she is unable to open a website link from the facebook app. These phones were updated to the latest ios version supported - 9.3.5.

If the batteries are originals then they're waaaaay past their expected life (2 years). I replaced my 4S batteries last fall with an iFixit kit and everything was fine.
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I've read that Apple will ONLY fix your battery if the wear is more than 20% and the battery cycle is no more than 500.

But how the f... do we check the cycle? I mean, for me personally, I think I don't have to worry because my phone was replaced with a refurbished one a year ago and I don't believe I had made over 500 cycles but still... iFixit is the other option for me which I find more convenient but not sure about the battery quality.

As noted above, I replaced my iPhone 4S's battery with an iFixit kit and it wasn't too hard to do and the battery seems fine. I am hoping to keep the 4S as a GPS/Hiking device when I upgrade to the iPhone X. Waste not, want not.
 
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