LOL you are right. Steve would have up'ed the price to $99 and told you/convinced you that that's what you really needed to pay in the first place for battery replacements.
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FAQ: What to Know About Apple Slowing Down iPhones to Prevent Unexpected Shutdowns
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(JK no flaming needed here)Does my iPhone have this feature if needed?
When did a workaround for a design flaw that causes shutdowns from voltage drops in normal-aging batteries become a "power-management feature?"
When did a workaround for a design flaw that causes shutdowns from voltage drops in normal-aging batteries become a "power-management feature?"
Here's what you need to know: Just keep your phone plugged in at all times of the day, even if its charged.
The only time I let my phone off the charger is when I'm sleeping at night, or out and about.
The only time I let my phone off the charger is when I'm sleeping at night, or out and about.
What reason do you have for believing CPU Dasher X is measuring a change in CPU speed due to the throttling feature? Isn't it true that CPU Dasher X could show changes to CPU speed prior to iOS 10.1.2?
Well I for one won't be buying a new iPhone until this "feature" is no longer needed.
Use better batteries, Apple.
Use better batteries, Apple.
Simply Apple controlling the narrative.
Well of course. If you have a toy car with used up batteries it will run slow always until you replace the batteries. Nothing new there. That's how battery operated devices have always worked
it is a bit different for electronic devices... simple example, a digital watch or a battery powered digital alarm clock... do they start keeping incorrect time as battery gets old or do they just shut off?
DC circuits do have inductance and capacitance, but I just wanted to clarify that isn't what the problem is for the iPhone.
There is still inductance in DC systems. Inductance occurs any time there is a change in the flow of current through a circuit. For AC systems, the current is constantly completely changing direction. In DC, it still goes through changes such as when the flashlight goes from off to on. The impedance determines how quickly the current can go from 0 to whatever is required within the circuit.
You forgot to give credit to Apple for writing that story that you published for them....
This is getting blown out of proportions.
First, if you lost all trust in Apple, move on. It's just a computer company and there are many other solutions on the market that will meet your computing needs. I doubt you'll find a company that provides better user experience. If you do and you're happy then more power to you.
We all know that this forum would blow up with people being angry at Apple if their iPhone 6 was shutting down. So, Apple slows down the phone during peak time. The synthetic benchmarks that people are posting are not reflective of real life usage. In reality that page you wanted to open or the app that you were loading took 0.03 second longer to load. Big deal. It's a pretty sweet trade off against having the phone shut down unexpectedly.
It would be nice to know what's happening. It's an awesome feature and Apple should have been more open about it, but that's the only complaint that I can find. Give users the option to service the battery or enjoy reduced performance to prolong the life of the product. Simple, really.
Steve Jobs told everyone they were holding the phone "wrong" when the iPhone 4 antenna design flaw was discovered. He would have done this and has done these kinds of things before. Don't be naive.
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I upgraded a failing battery about 7months ago. iPhone 6 was fine.
WHY then after upgrading to iOS 11, phone becomes sluggish, typing on the keyboard sometimes doesn’t give feedback for SEVERAL SECONDS until it spits out a burst of text in one shot (sometimes even missing CAPS changes), switching apps is a long ordeal. Don’t get me started on Apple Car (became an unusable slow crap), Siri while driving sometimes takes A MINUTE to process a simple command such as “call John using FaceTime audio”, etc...
Alright MR, I’m planning to use the battery replacement program, sure why not, let’s give it a try, maybe the batteries are so massively crap that they snap not at one year use but at 6months.
I still have the feeling that, after the upgrade, issues with sluggishness, keyboard, AppleCar features, etc won’t magically disappear.
WHY then after upgrading to iOS 11, phone becomes sluggish, typing on the keyboard sometimes doesn’t give feedback for SEVERAL SECONDS until it spits out a burst of text in one shot (sometimes even missing CAPS changes), switching apps is a long ordeal. Don’t get me started on Apple Car (became an unusable slow crap), Siri while driving sometimes takes A MINUTE to process a simple command such as “call John using FaceTime audio”, etc...
Alright MR, I’m planning to use the battery replacement program, sure why not, let’s give it a try, maybe the batteries are so massively crap that they snap not at one year use but at 6months.
I still have the feeling that, after the upgrade, issues with sluggishness, keyboard, AppleCar features, etc won’t magically disappear.
A very well written article.
To make it complete, you also need to explain why the models which are not affected by this, do not require this throttling.
Cause the issue here is The design of newer iPhones, with thinner batteries and not battery tech itself.
To make it complete, you also need to explain why the models which are not affected by this, do not require this throttling.
Cause the issue here is The design of newer iPhones, with thinner batteries and not battery tech itself.
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CPUDasherX, re-read macrumors first article that they posted about slowdowns about a month ago
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/12/11/alleged-throttling-old-iphones-battery-controversy/
Do you have any objective evidence whatsoever that proves your accusation? The gauziness of "wouldn't be surprised" doesn't mitigate questioning the integrity of the accused.
It's a comprehensive, focused article which strives to avoid speculation and opinion. I'm sure it'll be appreciated as a primer on the issue, especially by those who have little time on their hands. It doesn't claim to be 'the be all and end all', nor does it preclude one from continuing their investigation.
Nobody is asking any questions around here. They take the things as they are and take every lie Apple tells as fact. I had the same questions as you, but nobody answered.
I can add a fourth question:
4. Why has the battery life on older iPhones (like the 7 Plus) suddenly dropped once iOS 11 came out? Could they want us to charge more times a day and destroy our fragile batteries faster?
Conclusion: Apple shouldn't allow older phones to update to newer iOS if they can't support it. just release updates for security. Throttling phones down in order to give new features isn't an experience. I love Apple products but i'm calling lies with Apple's statement.
Can Apple and the media stop pretending they only started throttling old phones with iOS 10.2.1? It's been happening for years. I'm sitting here wondering if they purposely added "power management," just so they could avoid questions about why they are really slowing down *older phones.
*by older I mean as little as 6-12 months. Seriously, I noticed my 7 Plus slowing down in the weeks leading up to iPhone 8 and X announcement.
How about Apple use the same battery tech used in the iPad, since iPads arent getting throttled
Even MR is calling this speed issue a "feature." Trying to stay on Apple's good side so they continue to get invites?
I have to say..
on my 6s, had the battery replaced (free, part of the 6/6s program), then did a clean iOS install of 11 and the phone is badness fast. feels GREAT!
on my 6s, had the battery replaced (free, part of the 6/6s program), then did a clean iOS install of 11 and the phone is badness fast. feels GREAT!
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I have zero reason not to believe it. I got new battery in my 6s and it shows 1848 Mhz everytime now. Thats plenty of proof for me to believe.
Well yes they could start loosing time. My clock in the house does (analog). But seriously a clock is no where even close to as demanding on power as a computer in your pocket. So this analogy isn't really useful. Sorry. Point being, if a battery is old/aged/depleted enough to where it cannot supply the needed current, yes it could stay in a throttled state always IF the circumstances Apple says activates it are existing.