yup. heres to hoping that someone here has already found a solution. Does anyone know how to clear all 3rd party codecs off the machine and reinstall quicktime?
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Faulty NVIDIA Drivers - Lets Get This Clear
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I dont think the unibody are using GPU acceleration (atleast im not with my unibody mbp in OSX).
The 8600M GT is allso capable of GPU acceleration of various HD formats.
Its the software in OSX that is limiting.
In windows using the right app, i can playback 1080p material with max 15% CPU usage, more like 5% average.
are graphics cards useful only in programs that support them, or does the computer automatically detect that there is heavy intense graphic work going on, regardless of the software, and uses the graphics card muscle?
for instance, playing 1080p files on vlc...will the mbp utilize the 9600 or is it all cpu?
for instance, playing 1080p files on vlc...will the mbp utilize the 9600 or is it all cpu?
Dark moving lines in cyan areas under heavy load and USB problems
I have no Problems with my 2009 17 " MBP playing this trailers. At least I don't see any.
Though I tried to test my display very thouroghly, when I received it 3 days ago, the first days I could see no problems, except an USB issue - (see the bottom of this post)
But now I see, that I definitively do have this vertikal moving lines in cyan/blue areas, when the laptop is running some longer time under load (for instance some hours rendering in maxwell) using the 9600M. As soon as I stop rendering, the issue slowly beginns to vanish.
It becomes clearer if Ii move another window over the window with the cyan area. It also effects blue folder symbols on the desktop etc. It definitivly has something to to with the color, though skin tones also show a little artefacts. After rebooting the problem is gone.
I have the feeling that it is getting worse, now it already begins after 10 minutes of rendering, if I used the laptop surfing before.
As this computer is a replacement for an older defect 2008 MBP it is a difficult situation, though I have it only for 3 days now.
I am sorry if I miss the correct thread for that issue, I thought, I saw it already twice, but did not find it again now.
Another issue: When calibrating the display I can not connect the measuring device directly with the laptop. The support of the Colormanagement software explained that it must be an problem of not having enough electricity on the USB connection. When connecting the measurement device via an USB hub with own electrical connection it will work fine. Nobody else seems to have that problem??? A Wacom tablet connected to USB works fine and it does not matter which of the 3 USB's I use.
I have no Problems with my 2009 17 " MBP playing this trailers. At least I don't see any.
Though I tried to test my display very thouroghly, when I received it 3 days ago, the first days I could see no problems, except an USB issue - (see the bottom of this post)
But now I see, that I definitively do have this vertikal moving lines in cyan/blue areas, when the laptop is running some longer time under load (for instance some hours rendering in maxwell) using the 9600M. As soon as I stop rendering, the issue slowly beginns to vanish.
It becomes clearer if Ii move another window over the window with the cyan area. It also effects blue folder symbols on the desktop etc. It definitivly has something to to with the color, though skin tones also show a little artefacts. After rebooting the problem is gone.
I have the feeling that it is getting worse, now it already begins after 10 minutes of rendering, if I used the laptop surfing before.
As this computer is a replacement for an older defect 2008 MBP it is a difficult situation, though I have it only for 3 days now.
I am sorry if I miss the correct thread for that issue, I thought, I saw it already twice, but did not find it again now.
Another issue: When calibrating the display I can not connect the measuring device directly with the laptop. The support of the Colormanagement software explained that it must be an problem of not having enough electricity on the USB connection. When connecting the measurement device via an USB hub with own electrical connection it will work fine. Nobody else seems to have that problem??? A Wacom tablet connected to USB works fine and it does not matter which of the 3 USB's I use.
Yeah, tried this at work and in store MBP's. All the same s---. Has to be a driver issue. Hopefully we get the new iMac's in soon so I can test the 9400 in there and next time I swing by the Apple Store, will try it there as well.
setup a genius bar appointment yesterday. they had not seen this problem before but I did get some results. they decided to archive and install my laptop which did not fix the stuttering problem. after that, they said they ran a virtual version of the OS on their backend through my laptop which seemed to fix the issue.
The genius suggested that i erase and install my drive because he thought it was some software i had installed that was causing the issue. After I erased and reinstalled 10.5.5 from the disk, all was flawless. There were no stuttering issues and everything played back perfectly. This morning I updated to 10.5.6 and VOILA, back to the same choppy issues. SO I can tell you all this is a SOFTWARE ISSUE, there is nothing wrong with our GPU's. However, this still begs the question as to why some people have the problem and others do not.
What I found while testing the MBP's in the Apple store was that they had no issues at all and were all running 10.5.6, so how could this be?
MY THEORY:
The laptops in the Apple store running 10.5.6 exhibited no issues and seemed to have no playback issues. What I believe is that their build of 10.5.6 is different seeing as the lightbulb in the preference pain was the old round one and each of these laptops still had the "custom" energy settings drop down menu which has been removed in my version of 10.5.6. Also, they are all running Quicktime PRO which may have something to do with it (unlikely). SO, my question to all of you is, what build could these laptops possibly be running, and where can we get it?
The genius suggested that i erase and install my drive because he thought it was some software i had installed that was causing the issue. After I erased and reinstalled 10.5.5 from the disk, all was flawless. There were no stuttering issues and everything played back perfectly. This morning I updated to 10.5.6 and VOILA, back to the same choppy issues. SO I can tell you all this is a SOFTWARE ISSUE, there is nothing wrong with our GPU's. However, this still begs the question as to why some people have the problem and others do not.
What I found while testing the MBP's in the Apple store was that they had no issues at all and were all running 10.5.6, so how could this be?
MY THEORY:
The laptops in the Apple store running 10.5.6 exhibited no issues and seemed to have no playback issues. What I believe is that their build of 10.5.6 is different seeing as the lightbulb in the preference pain was the old round one and each of these laptops still had the "custom" energy settings drop down menu which has been removed in my version of 10.5.6. Also, they are all running Quicktime PRO which may have something to do with it (unlikely). SO, my question to all of you is, what build could these laptops possibly be running, and where can we get it?
I just tested it on my MBP to add some data to the mix. I experienced no stuttering or loss of framerate under the 9600M GT. I am running OS X 10.5.6 build 9G2133.
Generally, I think everyone has it but "choppy or sluggish" might not be the same as yours and mine. Like I said in my earlier post, I knew what I was experiencing and went to see if it existed at work and at the Apple Store and the problem was still present. Did you check to see if the computers at the Apple Store were running .6? ARS don't always update to the latest version and I highly doubt that there are different builds; the build number for 10.5.6 should be 9G55 if you installed through software update. If you have 9F2088, 9F2533, 9G2133 I think your computer probably came with 10.5.6.?
ilog.genius: yes I can confirm that each MBP 15" was running 10.5.6 at the apple store and each was playing back the 1080p trailers at full 23-24fps.
Interesting, ours builds are 9G55 but Bill Gates build is 9G2133 and is not having any issues. I get the feeling we are starting to narrow this down. Why are there two different versions for the same computer and how do we get his version to test?
Update:
Just found this post with some interesting info regarding the versions on the newer mbp's:
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/7019748/
Interesting, ours builds are 9G55 but Bill Gates build is 9G2133 and is not having any issues. I get the feeling we are starting to narrow this down. Why are there two different versions for the same computer and how do we get his version to test?
Update:
Just found this post with some interesting info regarding the versions on the newer mbp's:
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/7019748/
I'm assuming Bill's build is different because his MacBook Pro shipped with 10.5.6. If he runs software update, there's a good chance his might change to 9G55. I just think builds don't mean anything, they're just there to label for time of release - nothing really different in builds.
At the moment, my machine is fully updated, and yet retains that same build number. Once 10.5.7 is released, we will probably see more congruence of build numbers.
Did your MBP come with 10.5.6 or did you update to it? LOL I hate Build numbers, too hard on how to read them correctly!
It came with it. If you or anyone else wants any other information, e.g. kext versions just let me know.Did your MBP come with 10.5.6 or did you update to it? LOL I hate Build numbers, too hard on how to read them correctly!
That's what I thought.
9G55: Build number of 10.5.6 using Software Update
9F2088, 9F2533, 9G2133: Build number of OS X included with computer.
When you update to 10.5.7, the build number is going to change.
is there a consensus that the 10.5.6 build shipping with the new MBP's has some minor tweaks not found in the software update?
I don't think so. If there were tweaks done on a software level that needed to fix things, I think Apple would release them as small updates through software update. If there are tweaks, it's probably not significant enough that everyone could or would benefit from. Again, the Build number could indicate some tweaks but I think it's just there to distinguish and keep track what was released on which computer and when.
PARTIAL SOLUTION:
So after reading endless threads online, I found that if you remove the file AppleVAH264HW.component from System>Library>Quicktime it will eliminate the choppy playback on the 9600 when watching 1080p trailers.
However, I dont quite see this as a fix since it might have other implications such as removing the hardware accelerated decoding, who knows. Anyways, if anyone knows why this file is creating the issue and has a further idea of how to solve this..please post!
So after reading endless threads online, I found that if you remove the file AppleVAH264HW.component from System>Library>Quicktime it will eliminate the choppy playback on the 9600 when watching 1080p trailers.
However, I dont quite see this as a fix since it might have other implications such as removing the hardware accelerated decoding, who knows. Anyways, if anyone knows why this file is creating the issue and has a further idea of how to solve this..please post!
i just try to delete AppleVAH264HW.component. this make quicktime player use cpu to play the media.
1080 HD movies play fine for me with the 9600gt. I just got my 2.4 ghz macbook pro last week. I noticed the demo unit I played with in the store had significant stuttering issues. I have no clue as to what the difference is between my machine and the display unit.
However I'm upset since my computer apparently is stricken by the BSOD issue where the machine hangs, black screens, and sometimes goes to sleep when the 9600gt is under heavy load: usually with games.
However I'm upset since my computer apparently is stricken by the BSOD issue where the machine hangs, black screens, and sometimes goes to sleep when the 9600gt is under heavy load: usually with games.