FBI Briefing Senators on How It Accessed San Bernardino Shooter's iPhone

[zioxide]

This thread title should read "The FBI doesn't care about American's information security."

Sitting on a known exploit and not telling the company that produces the software about it is bush league in the IT industry.

 

[doctor-don]

So exactly WHAT did the FBI find on Farook's / the San Bernardino County Department of Public Health's iPhone that was so important to the security of our country?

And what will those fat-behind MOCs do with the information about how the iPhone was cracked ... IF it was.
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Just like I expect everyone in the FBI was reasonably sure there was nothing of import on the phone, Apple has to be reasonably sure of the method the FBI used to get in. Despite theatrics on either side (or more often, their supporters) I'm sure neither was/is sweating a lack of cooperation from the other in these sense.

Edit to add: I am a bit surprised by Senator Feinstein's attitude. I know she likes a strong state (in support of her philosophy as is typically the case for any political bent) but I would didn't expect that harsh of a viewpoint.
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That's a nice sentiment to express but impractical. Most people need an income to live. This would likely insure that only the independently wealthy would write laws, I'm sure most people would take issue with that. There's also the case to be made (and I'm sure there are many many examples of this not being true) of trying to attract great candidates with attractive compensation. Why should I take a pay cut to work in congress? Some would truly do it for the public good and some may just be political wonks but then you'd be attracting a slew of people solely in for the collection of power (more so than today). There's no perfect answer but I disagree with your proposal.

Eliminate ALL lobbyists so the under-the-table payments / payoffs to the MOCs would stop.

 

[tongxinshe]

"No company or individual is above the law,

<behind the lines>: ", except us the so-called 'intelligence' people."

and I'm dismayed that anyone would refuse to help the government in a major terrorism investigation."

<translation>: "So I am furious at anyone dare to not regard us 'intelligence' people as above all of them at all times."

 

[Dopeyman]

Hey if you don't like america, well you can gettt out!

Trump?? Is that you???

 

[Beenblacklisted]

Trump?? Is that you???

no but i will be voting for him

 

[HEK]

This thread title should read "The FBI doesn't care about American's information security."

Sitting on a known exploit and not telling the company that produces the software about it is bush league in the IT industry.

It's not such a big exploit. Cellebrite advertises on the Internet for god's sake. The video clearly shows a 5c being brute forced once the nand counter is continuously reset to zero after each try.

 

[4jasontv]

Just like I expect everyone in the FBI was reasonably sure there was nothing of import on the phone, Apple has to be reasonably sure of the method the FBI used to get in. Despite theatrics on either side (or more often, their supporters) I'm sure neither was/is sweating a lack of cooperation from the other in these sense.

Edit to add: I am a bit surprised by Senator Feinstein's attitude. I know she likes a strong state (in support of her philosophy as is typically the case for any political bent) but I would didn't expect that harsh of a viewpoint.
[doublepost=1460054630][/doublepost]

That's a nice sentiment to express but impractical. Most people need an income to live. This would likely insure that only the independently wealthy would write laws, I'm sure most people would take issue with that. There's also the case to be made (and I'm sure there are many many examples of this not being true) of trying to attract great candidates with attractive compensation. Why should I take a pay cut to work in congress? Some would truly do it for the public good and some may just be political wonks but then you'd be attracting a slew of people solely in for the collection of power (more so than today). There's no perfect answer but I disagree with your proposal.

The current system only allows the independently wealthy to write laws.

No one says you have to quit your job to take office*, hopefully the burden of volunteering would discourage career politicians. It would be an honor to serve, but only temporarily. Discouraging the same people from taking the job over and over is the ultimate goal of my suggestion.

*The idea of forcing politicians to have another job, outside of a leadership role (No CEO, board membership, etc.) might make it work better, though I'd have to think more about that.

 

[Dopeyman]

no but i will be voting for him

Of course you will, you racist POS

 

[Beenblacklisted]

Of course you will, you racist POS

You assume im a racist because I want to vote for trump, you couldn't be more wrong. Candidates say what they believe will garner votes. Obama blasted that he will change the system, but he did not because our system has checks and balances. Trump knows this and is simply saying what he believes will get votes, its a means to an end.

 

[hiddenmarkov]

Hey if you don't like america, well you can gettt out!
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Pssst....with stuff like this becoming possible it could be tech companies leaving the US. To encryption friendly havens as it were. With everything going "to the cloud".....you can stick these datacentres where ever you want and just give them a big fat pipe to the internet to do their thing.

This is already being done. When I used AWS (amazon web services) because of my location I went to Amazon asian facilities. No point to having my data on the east coast of the US. Microsoft Azure services have datacentres worldwide.

Any US facilities tbh are a convenience at this point for the US. It simplifies routing/firewalls. Since in the US IP block range cloud vendor and client basically have less infrastructure headaches. I see this often...US entity not digging the Japanese IP. This I have to work around to get things done.



it bypasses lots of things doing this. Country allowing encryption with no backdoor get a nice business injection. And to not lose money to foreign data business boom you'd see American companies getting real creative. Google will turn over the files as they required. But when asked by DOJ why are these encrypted with no backdoor as per US law (if it happens) they will say this came from our Asia servers...you would not believe how popular they became after your law passed. We charged an extra $10 per month for the service and still it sold like hot cakes. Encryption done by user not us, have a nice day and hope the cracking goes well.



Why they really need to think about this. Its make offshoring even more appealing. Something we really don't need being made worse imo.