FBI Briefing Senators on How It Accessed San Bernardino Shooter's iPhone

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    The FBI has begun telling some U.S. Senators how it accessed the data on San Bernardino shooter Syed Farook's iPhone 5c, according to The National Journal (via CNET). Previously, the FBI has been coy on how it accessed the data on the phone and hasn't communicated the exploit used to Apple.


    California Senator Diane Feinstein, the vice chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, confirmed to CNET that she was briefed on the method used by the FBI. North Carolina Senator Richard Burr, the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, has been invited to an FBI briefing but has not yet accepted, according to The National Journal. The two Senators are co-sponsors on a bill that would force companies to comply with court orders to unlock encrypted communication services.

    That bill is reportedly set to be introduced to Congress as soon as this week, and both Burr and Feinstein told The National Journal that the FBI should not tell Apple how it accessed the data on Syed Farook's iPhone.
    When the FBI first mentioned that it had found a "possible method" to obtain the data from the iPhone, Apple said that it would insist on obtaining the details of the exploit should the government pursue its case against the Cupertino company. However, since the case was dropped, there is little legal recourse for Apple to attain that information. The FBI reportedly turned to Israeli firm Cellebrite to unlock the phone. Shortly after the Justice Department dropped the case, Apple issued a statement saying it would "continue to increase the security" of its products.

    Yesterday, FBI general counsel James Baker said that the data on the iPhone was being analyzed and that it was "simply too soon to tell" whether the information is valuable.

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  2. Peace macrumors Core


    Apr 1, 2005
    Space--The ONLY Frontier
    "I'm dismayed that anyone would refuse to help the government in a major terrorism investigation."

    I would be dismayed too had it just been for one phone but it wasn't.

    Feinstein should read more.
  3. nikhsub1 macrumors 68020


    Jun 19, 2007
    mmmm... jessica.'s beer...
  4. Kaibelf macrumors 68020


    Apr 29, 2009
    Silicon Valley, CA
    Perhaps Feinstein should also accept that Apple doesn't have any obligation to serve as a forensics arm of the state.
  5. macs4nw macrumors 601


    Oh great, something tells me we haven't heard the last word about this yet. Those lawmakers are itching to come up with more legislation to 'save us' from doom and gloom... :rolleyes:
  6. FakeWozniak macrumors 6502


    Nov 8, 2007
    You would think the DMCA applies to the US Government too.
  7. macfacts macrumors 68040


    Oct 7, 2012
  8. sdsvtdriver macrumors 65816

    Jul 31, 2008
    Southern California
    Good point Feinstein. You wouldn't want Apple to plug a hole that keeps China and Russia from accessing data on US government phones. Besides, sharing is caring!
  9. avanpelt macrumors 68030

    Jun 2, 2010
    Translation of Feinstein's remark: "Anyone who doesn't give the government what they want can go **** themselves."

    Spoken like the entitled brat she is who has been in public office far too long.
  10. Westside guy macrumors 603

    Westside guy

    Oct 15, 2003
    The soggy side of the Pacific NW
    Feinstein either doesn't understand, or she doesn't care, that in the end she's not snubbing Apple - she's snubbing the American citizens who use their products.
  11. pika2000 macrumors 601

    Jun 22, 2007
    And yet she is still in office, paid by yours truly, the taxpayers.
    The people get the leaders they wished for.
  12. Eldiablojoe macrumors 6502a


    Dec 4, 2009
    West Koast
    Ahhh, like most liberals Diane is parroting their philosophy, id est - "We are smarther/better/more civilized than you, and we can run your life for you better than you can run it yourself. Submit to our benevolent paternity."
  13. 2457282 Suspended

    Dec 6, 2012
    This is extremely dangerous. If the US passes a law forcing companies to back door into our phones, why would every other country do the same? Giving the keys to the kindom to our enimies seem way worse that forcing the FBI to figure out how to spell "Hack it yourself."
  14. tbobmccoy, Apr 6, 2016
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    tbobmccoy macrumors 6502a


    Jul 24, 2007
    Austin, TX
    This is a linear view of political philosophies, when at the very least, there should be two axes. She's an authoritarian liberal, Bernie is more of a libertarian liberal, for example.
  15. writingdevil macrumors 6502

    Feb 11, 2010
    "Ahh, like most liberals..."
    Sadly, one could say you're simply "parroting" easy to copy 'talking points' with little to no knowledge about facts of the situation. Every Republican prez nominee said Apple should yield to the FBI 'demands' to create software to bypass ten try defeat. Why not just deal with iPhone and the issues at hand instead of your "id est"-ing your personal agenda?
  16. Sevanw, Apr 6, 2016
    Last edited: Apr 6, 2016

    Sevanw Suspended


    Sep 13, 2014
    Apple: We will not help you unlock that phone.
    FBI: Actually, we're good, we don't need your stinkin' help.
    Apple: Oh hi, can we talk?

    Lol, what an embarrassment for Apple.
  17. applesith macrumors 68030


    Jun 11, 2007
    If they even opened the phone...could just be a bluff in attempt to look like they cracked it but couldn't.
  18. fitshaced macrumors 68000


    Jul 2, 2011
    Why succumb to an attack of your right to privacy when the people trying to force this infringement are ego and promotion obsessed? Their right to see everything to do, think and want does not make you safer. Especially when they are getting tapped themselves by foreign governments. What needs to happen is a consultative approach to balance their need with the people's. Right now it just looks like the FBI want to be able to do whatever they want with no regard to anybody. People need to get to vote on the rights that are being stripped away. Voting for a leader doesn't cut it.
  19. Rocketman macrumors 603


    Feinstein is on the way out this term. The problem is that empowers her to propose the most radical stuff of her entire career and use her position of power to push it.
  20. iOSFangirl6001 macrumors 6502


    Aug 11, 2015
    Pretty much this
    Nope he don't lol


    Remember this is the same government that blatantly showed a willingness to sacrifice freedom, privacies and civil liberties in the name of "security" and "terrorism"

    So likely laws, DMCA and whatever else be damned :rolleyes:
  21. pat500000 Suspended


    Jun 3, 2015
    F.-BS, show us the part where you guys actually hacked through. Everything I hear is..."we were able to hack it" but I don't see the showing part. Just let Apple know your method...and apple will do their part to help you guys secure by putting added security on that part.
  22. macfacts macrumors 68040


    Oct 7, 2012
    The FBI are showing how, just not showing everyone, just only Senators.

    So the FBI paid this company for this information about how to hack the iphone 5c, so why doesn't Apple use some of that money they have and pay same company to find out the hack and fix it? Almost all big tech companies do pay for bug/security info but not Apple -> http://bgr.com/2016/03/25/iphone-hacking-apple-bug-bounty-program/ Doesn't seem like Apple is serious about security and prefers to use customers as beta testers to fix things.
  23. 4jasontv macrumors 68000

    Jul 31, 2011
    A fundamental problem with American politics is that you can make money representing the people. The job should be a privilege not a career. It should cost politicians, not taxpayers, for the privilege to serve.
  24. pika2000 macrumors 601

    Jun 22, 2007
    If representing people is a job, then when the person is not doing his/her job, the manager/boss should take ownership and replace the person with somebody else. The boss here is the American taxpayers, and yet they are still willingly pay the same politicians in office.
  25. Pbrutto macrumors 6502a


    Apr 21, 2015
    Eastern PA
    An apple friendly senator will tell them.....or Apple will just buy Cellebrite

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