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FBI Concerned With New Default Encryption Settings in iOS and Android Devices
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If you're searching for someone to blame, look in a mirror.
I'm tired of government hatred. Police states don't exist when people participate in the political process, (And yes, that sometimes means doing more than just voting. Especially when your choices are between bad and worse.)
We got the government we deserve.
You don't understand what a warrant is for. A warrant lets the police rummage through your things without your permission. If you had permission from the owner, you wouldn't need a warrant. Getting information from Apple is like the super letting the police in with a key.
Actually, not a bad point.
Think of the children, what kind of world (politically) do we want to have them grow up in and live in?
Glassed Silver:mac
Think of the children, what kind of world (politically) do we want to have them grow up in and live in?
Glassed Silver:mac
What if they do come with a warrent for him to unlock his phone. If he has incriminating content on there, does he have the right to not unlock it since it would be like self-incrimination (the 5th amendment). The government would have the right to take the phone, even hack into it, if they can, but do they have the right to have you unlock it for them if it will self-incriminate the individual?
yeah, no kidding.
But the apologists and other children on this site would do just that.
Maintaining my privacy is a problem for you? Tough ****.
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Good heavens people need to educate themselves about how criminal procedure works. If you keep the key to your house in a lockbox at the bank, the police absolutely have the right to serve a warrant on the bank for your lockbox. A warrant would be pointless if you had to work through the suspect in order to obtain evidence.
While I appreciate that, and applaud you for it, the 4th Amendment wasn't written for criminals for have a buffer to hide things. It was written both in reaction to, and with foresight to keep oppressive governments from molesting people as their right.
The Founders knew they'd die, and they studied history enough to know that people, in general, beg for oppression for others, and are surprised when that oppression comes upon them.
hate to divulge the solution to my enemies but.....
roll up in an armed vehicle, tear up their front lawn and through the bushes and have police jump out in full military gear, then point ARs at their head and tell them to unlock it - something to this effect:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdvS0jEw9Jk
if that doesnt work - see this:
http://www.cnet.com/news/apples-touch-id-still-vulnerable-to-hack-security-researcher-finds/
also, still trying to figure out how all of you gripe about government intrusion, and blindly pull the "D" lever over and over again
roll up in an armed vehicle, tear up their front lawn and through the bushes and have police jump out in full military gear, then point ARs at their head and tell them to unlock it - something to this effect:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdvS0jEw9Jk
if that doesnt work - see this:
http://www.cnet.com/news/apples-touch-id-still-vulnerable-to-hack-security-researcher-finds/
also, still trying to figure out how all of you gripe about government intrusion, and blindly pull the "D" lever over and over again
You can use your two step verification to unlock it. Playing dumb isn't a valid excuse once presented a warrant.
Ohhh I agree, but try convincing the masses of our predicament. Heck, most believe in this duopoly nonsense.
Douche or Turd Sandwich?
The point I was making earlier was that a bank owns your house not that you leave a key in a lock box. That's a completely different issue.
Seems to me that law enforcement was making plenty of arrests be for the day of the digital device. They didn't need to hack my home phone in most cases to do it, so why all of the sudden the need to hack my cell. Yeah I get that more to it that its just a phone, but then they had to do detective work, go out and solve crimes. Appears now they just want it handed to them in nice tidy package, well thats not how it works. Get off your collective butts and go solve crime, infiltrate that gang, collect physical evidence.
Well, it is pretty much a guarrentee that if you have the police at your house with a warrant that you are probably going to jail, regardless of if you unlock your phone or not.
The difference would be, without the evidence on the phone provided to them, they may not have anything to hold you on for longer than a few days.
Once you unlock the phone and they have access to that information, they may have enough to hold you as long as they want.
I would be interested to hear what legal experts say on this subject.
In the end, the government cannot have it both ways.
1. Companies must protect individuals privacy and it must be secure.
2. We, the government, must have access to individuals private information and it must be unencrypted or at least give us the encryption key so we can read it.