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There are always those who are willing to stir the pot. Apple should think twice in the future to whom they do business with and whom they appoint to work for them. Those with dual nationalities from Israel could pose a huge security risk for Apple as you never know which could have been hired to work for them as spies to gather intelligence. Apple should have stricter hiring rules in the future.
Sure, but Apple has an R&D center in Israel...
 
I am sure they will be thinking that one over after this one. Someone employed by Apple may have been a mole.
The way the CIA and NSA have worked historically, in a company like Apple, IBM, Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc. I'd be shocked beyond belief if there wasn't several people there specifically to pass information along.
 
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a "Jailbreak" is just a hack that provides root access to the phone. Throughout the history of the iPhone there have been many different flavors of jailbreak that have exploited multiple vulnerabilities in the product, each eventually being patched and then replaced with a newer variant of jailbreak. So far all of these (that I'm aware of) hacks have required the phone to be unlocked as an unlocked phone has more functionality enabled and thus a larger surface area to exploit for attack vectors it is much more likely to find something exploitable in an unlocked phone. However... in theory a locked phone could be jailbroken as well. The problem is that the exposed surface area of the locked firmware is much smaller so it is less likely anyone would find something to be exploited and gain control of the device. Hasn't been done to date that I'm aware of but that doesn't mean that "jailbreak" could never occur on a locked phone.

Hope that helps.
As I said:
which ostensibly requires a fully-accessible iPhone.
From the Oxford Dictionary of English as supplied on OS X 10.9.5:
Ostensibly
adverb
as appears or is stated to be true, though not necessarily so; apparently
A much quicker way of conveying what you did in your post ;)
 
Those with dual nationalities from Israel could pose a huge security risk for Apple as you never know which could have been hired to work for them as spies to gather intelligence. Apple should have stricter hiring rules in the future.

If the same principle was applied to the legislative, judicial and executive branches, the world would be a lot safer place.
 
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As I said:

From the Oxford Dictionary of English as supplied on OS X 10.9.5:

A much quicker way of conveying what you did in your post ;)

Context matters. Ostensibly the implication of your post was that the FBI does not have an unlocked phone thus the term "Jailbreak" was inappropriate. Retroactive parsing of verbiage aside, your statement was incorrect but we both have "obstensiblies" now to use as a parachute. ;-)
 
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It doesn't sound like Apple has the upper hand.

If the third party solution works, Apple is out of the decision loop entirely. Worse, the mass public now thinks/knows that their iPhone is breakable by outside entities
Sure they do in the courts....... that was my point... IF they are able to force it somehow and win in court then that's a big deal. I'm however ignorant on such things and don't know if they can even do anything in court.
Isn't it against the law to reverse engineer software for the purposes of gaining access to X device? Again... ignorant on the issue.
I know there is jailbreaking and that in itself is legal per the courts but is the act of reverse engineering the software illegal.
 
If the same principle was applied to the legislative, judicial and executive branches, the world would be a lot safer place.

they are in place. Non US citizens cannot have secret and higher clearances. Dual citizens have to revoke the other citizenship to get a clearance. Before you come back well make everything secret....research before you speak. The handling of secret materials is complicated and involved. Try to avoid Hillary references...these are all over and full of misinformation. Google SIPR net, double wrapping to physically carry secret material, etc. Business impact is high. very high. So is the cost.


Also you seem to imply dual citizens are less American. care to share why? My son is a dual citizen (US and Japan). He had no say in the matter. this was done the first month he was born. To get Japanese and US benefits the reason why. It would have been stupid to no do this if you know anything about Japanese benefits.

It will be advised to keep it after he turns 18 for the simple reason when my wife dies...he needs Japanese citizenship to claim and keep what his inheritance will be. he can't own land/housing if not Japanese. Hell I can't even. We won't die rich for damn sure. There will be no billion dollar estate. Just a some tsubo's of land (how land measured in Japan) with a house on it. Keep or sell...his call. But he needs to be Japanese to do either.

I am a former Marine and support the military as a civilian now overseas. I can show you a very nice population of dual citizens as American as plain ole one passport citizen of the US. Military tends to have the classic tale of boy meets girl/girl meets boy have that boy or girl not be a US citizen twist.
 
they are in place. Non US citizens cannot have secret and higher clearances. Dual citizens have to revoke the other citizenship to get a clearance. Before you come back well make everything secret....research before you speak. The handling of secret materials is complicated and involved. Try to avoid Hillary references...these are all over and full of misinformation. Google SIPR net, double wrapping to physically carry secret material, etc. Business impact is high. very high. So is the cost.


Also you seem to imply dual citizens are less American. care to share why? My son is a dual citizen (US and Japan). He had no say in the matter. this was done the first month he was born. To get Japanese and US benefits the reason why. It would have been stupid to no do this if you know anything about Japanese benefits.

It will be advised to keep it after he turns 18 for the simple reason when my wife dies...he needs Japanese citizenship to claim and keep what his inheritance will be. he can't own land/housing if not Japanese. Hell I can't even. We won't die rich for damn sure. There will be no billion dollar estate. Just a some tsubo's of land (how land measured in Japan) with a house on it. Keep or sell...his call. But he needs to be Japanese to do either.

I am a former Marine and support the military as a civilian now overseas. I can show you a very nice population of dual citizens as American as plain ole one passport citizen of the US. Military tends to have the classic tale of boy meets girl/girl meets boy have that boy or girl not be a US citizen twist.
Your case makes sense. It depends on security issues though. Many countries do not allow Dual Citizenships for their Presidents or leaders as well for National Security reasons.
 
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Isn't it against the law to reverse engineer software for the purposes of gaining access to X device? Again... ignorant on the issue.

For investigative purposes, the Government itself is exempt, per the DMCA, 17 U.S Code § 1201:

"(e)Law Enforcement, Intelligence, and Other Government Activities

"This section does not prohibit any lawfully authorized investigative, protective, information security, or intelligence activity of an officer, agent, or employee of the United States, a State, or a political subdivision of a State, or a person acting pursuant to a contract with the United States, a State, or a political subdivision of a State. "
 
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If the same principle was applied to the legislative, judicial and executive branches, the world would be a lot safer place.

There are restrictions when it comes to both clearance and what positions may be held. Some go away for people who obtain full citizenship as opposed to just residency. These apply to nationality, not ethnicity (some people confuse the two).
 
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I am a former Marine and support the military as a civilian now overseas. I can show you a very nice population of dual citizens as American as plain ole one passport citizen of the US. Military tends to have the classic tale of boy meets girl/girl meets boy have that boy or girl not be a US citizen twist.

Thank you for your reasonable reply. I'm not going to tell anything about myself but I understand where you are coming from.

What I was referring to is the unproportional influence on US politics and governance by Israeli interests.

I tried to do some research on how many of the members of congress that holds dual citizenship with Israel but it seems to me to be a well guarded secret. There are lists on the internet but they seem impossible to verify independently. L. Michael Hager describes in this article how he tried to obtain that information and how he failed.

What can be said beyond a doubt is that, considering the pro-zionist influence on US politics and governance, the questioning of conflicts of interest is very legitimate.
 
Thank you for your reasonable reply. I'm not going to tell anything about myself but I understand where you are coming from.

What I was referring to is the unproportional influence on US politics and governance by Israeli interests.

I tried to do some research on how many of the members of congress that holds dual citizenship with Israel but it seems to me to be a well guarded secret. There are lists on the internet but they seem impossible to verify independently. L. Michael Hager describes in this article how he tried to obtain that information and how he failed.

What can be said beyond a doubt is that, considering the pro-zionist influence on US politics and governance, the questioning of conflicts of interest is very legitimate.
Just read this online..
http://www.cnet.com/news/feds-unlock-iphone-5c-used-by-san-bernardino-terrorist-dont-need-apple/
 
For investigative purposes, the Government itself is exempt, per the DMCA, 17 U.S Code § 1201:

"(e)Law Enforcement, Intelligence, and Other Government Activities

"This section does not prohibit any lawfully authorized investigative, protective, information security, or intelligence activity of an officer, agent, or employee of the United States, a State, or a political subdivision of a State, or a person acting pursuant to a contract with the United States, a State, or a political subdivision of a State. "
Got ya.
 
For investigative purposes, the Government itself is exempt, per the DMCA, 17 U.S Code § 1201:

"(e)Law Enforcement, Intelligence, and Other Government Activities

"This section does not prohibit any lawfully authorized investigative, protective, information security, or intelligence activity of an officer, agent, or employee of the United States, a State, or a political subdivision of a State, or a person acting pursuant to a contract with the United States, a State, or a political subdivision of a State. "
So if I work for Human Services of the City of Claremont, I am good?
I watch the kiddies wade in the 1 foot deep wading pool.

In bold. I am good.
 
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I doubt they broke into the device. This is politics. The Feds have too much to loose. Actually they already lost face, so this is more of damage control.

Let's see if the hundreds of phones lying around waiting to be opened is sent to cellulite. It's not going to happen.

One thing with intelligence services is that you cannot trust them, their business is to be shady.
 
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