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FBI Enlists Israeli Firm Cellebrite to Unlock Shooter's iPhone
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Must remember that this is not OS 9 or a new, touch ID phone with the Secure Enclave. The Cloud backup means Apple must have the key, so that customers will have access even if they forget their passwords. Saying, "Well, yes, you've lost your grandchildren's pictures, but you're secure!" is not real world. But the phone is very effectively locked now. There will be hacks, eventually, but they will find it hard to keep up with. So, providing the police with the data from their iCloud backups, fine. Telling them how to hack into a locked phone? Nope.
It's all smoke and mirrors, public opinion manipulation, and OMG outcry by the FBI/DOJ.
Take it for what it's worth. This is far from the end game.
Apple should acquire them
Cellebrite
What makes you think they have not? Try and find their Website. They could be Apple's Back Door, in a political way. Apple and The Israeli Tech Sector are tight.
Any number generator will do that. The trick is to bypass the auto delete feature. That is where the magic is. This would be quite the forensic win so it will be interesting to see if they can. Assuming law enforcement would want that published. "Nothing to see here just move along". Has Apple made a statement beyond they want the method used?
Sooo we can finally not have the FBI Making this into a spectacle?
Lol yea "1st and Last"
I think you meant
"really hope the screw up big time"
Lol yea "1st and Last"
I think you meant
"really hope the screw up big time"
Lol, I bet now that the solution to getting info off a locked iPhone changed from "send it in to Apple after FBI wins this case" to "pay $15k per device for a definitive maybe, since there was no trial & no precedent set", we'll see law enforcement's number of devices that they "need" unlocked dwindle from "hundreds", down to "well, maybe just these two". ;0)
To end this story Apple should buy FBI.
Apple. They should've helped right from the outset.
If another September 11 type scenario occurs and an iPhone is found at the scene, watch Apple's stocks take a huge dive.
Why? They have every right to try, on their own, to break into the device or any other piece of evidence. When did that become controversial?
I don't know about the stocks, but this is all playing out against the attacks in Brussels. If attacks similar to Brussels or Paris happened here; some of the conspirators remained on the loose; and the FBI wanted an iPhone unlocked that belonged to one of the attackers -- I don't think Apple's position would have as many defenders as it does in the present case (due the way some people have been trying to "rationalize away" the particular circumstances of the San Bernadino attacks).
No point in getting into hypotheticals, and I do understand Apple's refusal to comply -- but I find Apple/Cook's PR on this issue to be distasteful, and not mindful/respectful of the very real and weighty issues involved on the "other side."
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It seems "controversial" only to people on here who seem to think law enforcement is always the enemy; the sanctity of the almighty cell phone must never be violated; etc.
No there are no US companies that our government can employ to do this task?
At least they physically have to have the devise in hand to try these methods and not some hack that can be done remotely that could be used by any hacker sitting anywhere.
At least they physically have to have the devise in hand to try these methods and not some hack that can be done remotely that could be used by any hacker sitting anywhere.
Here's an interesting article from the NY Times about this case in relation to Apple's refusal to participate in "bug bounty" programs: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/23/t...s-may-explain-why-hackers-might-help-fbi.html
The contract is for $15,000. Thousand.
Do you think their legal expenses for the court case would have been less? (Ignoring that they would have likely lost anyway).
Possible, and I bet the FBI won't be revealing an embarrassment like that. Undermines somewhat their whole argument.
The last two iMessage on the phone will read:
- "Moron, stop using your work phone and use the phone I gave you yesterday."
- "mb"
Archive.org has the Wired article's link to Cellebrite here.
At least until someone gets Archive.org to take it down...
The way the FBI have constantly been rewriting their arguments, you just know this is simply their way of not allowing the case to set a precedent different to what they were trying to set.
If they weren't practically guaranteed to lose the case, you can be sure they wouldn't have brought this 'option' into play.
If they weren't practically guaranteed to lose the case, you can be sure they wouldn't have brought this 'option' into play.
Cellebrite might require some government credentials from their customers (or large enough surcharge).
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And how much did the government spent on legal fees so far on this issue? Yes, they likely only used in-house lawyers so far but they get a salary too.
Apple should acquire them
Mossad already did. Or rather, they prolly ran it.
15k is actually cheap for the purpose.
No-one in the public will know the real outcome of the _attempt_ to get into the phone. Regardless of how it turns out, in reality FBI can and will say whatever is most conducive to their objectives.
It's all just about manipulating public perception. It's called Perception Management. Make the public believe whatever you like them to believe. The Arab Spring was the first time social media was used on a broad scale for perception management.
The military and intelligence services spend billions and billions on this type of stuff. And they have become very good at it.