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Remember guys it was a hacker from Turkey who unlocked the phone a foolproof America still working with rapist and murderer aka terrorists. Sad they put trust in a country who has done multiple Genocides over the centuries and America keeps saying no such thing happened.
Yep, U.S. and Israel. It's screwed up. And after all the money we've given them, they won't do anything about ISIS. Heck, Turkey most likely funds them.
 
What a waste of tax money!!

I dont believe him anyways. There was a public contract document put out that stated they paid around $15K. If they truly paid $1.3million to break into this phone, they're dumber than I already thought they were....which is probably impossible.
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Not sure why this would surprise anyone. The presidents salary is $400K. Of course, there are perks and bonuses, but government service is not an occupation where people go to get rich.


People in government jobs usually have a different motivation than money. Sometimes it's security of a steady job and benefits, genuine desire to serve the country, or access to unrestricted funds/info for malfeasance. And some.... some just want to contribute to the chaos... they just want to see the world burn (angrily standing in a mile long line while staring at TSA agent on a smoke break.)

Any number of reasons really.

Unless you're in Congress....then you get REALLY rich. Insider trading is legal for Congress, and they spend their entire time in office working for campaign contributions which they are allowed to keep when they retire.
 
So if they found the phone of the abductor, and of course there may be a clue on the phone to her location to save her, and they could send the phone to a lab to be investigated whilst they carried on all other leads to find her.

You would step in and say NO, leave that phone alone. Carry on doing what you are doing, but don't try and see if there is anything on the abductors phone.

Sorry, I don't believe you. I think you would want any and every avenue explored at all costs to try and save your daughter.

What I said was: If they found the phone of the abductor, and you tried to ask me whether I change my opinion since my daughter is abducted, I would smack you so hard you would never dare asking a question again. That is totally independent on what I would do afterwards. But anyone who would ask me about politics in that situation would get smacked.

In the circumstances of _this_ case, it was absolutely clear that there wouldn't be any evidence found on that phone. So yes, instead of wasting $1.3 million on opening a phone with no evidence, the police could spend that money to send a thousand police officers out to look for her.

And please tell me how you suppose the police would find the phone but not the abductor. That's the big problem with all the "think of the children" idiots. All the scenarios they come up with _don't actually work_. There's not a single child abduction case where the abductor left a locked phone behind.
 
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What I said was: If they found the phone of the abductor, and you tried to ask me whether I change my opinion since my daughter is abducted, I would smack you so hard you would never dare asking a question again. That is totally independent on what I would do afterwards. But anyone who would ask me about politics in that situation would get smacked.

In the circumstances of _this_ case, it was absolutely clear that there wouldn't be any evidence found on that phone. So yes, instead of wasting $1.3 million on opening a phone with no evidence, the police could spend that money to send a thousand police officers out to look for her.

And please tell me how you suppose the police would find the phone but not the abductor. That's the big problem with all the "think of the children" idiots. All the scenarios they come up with _don't actually work_. There's not a single child abduction case where the abductor left a locked phone behind.

I am simply saying, the whole role, and what anyone would expect is for the police/authorities to follow any leads, inspect any piece of evidence in the hope of finding clues etc that would help with the investigation, whatever that may be.

Be that getting access to a address, some banking/financial details, CCTV Footage, Interviews with people who knew the suspect, and data help on their Computer or Phone.

It strikes me as stupid to say AFTER the event, oh well we knew there was nothing on there, after nothing was found.
Well perhaps there was no person being held at that address either, but it does not mean you don't go and search the place if there is any chance their might be.

All very well being smug after the event.

Can you imagine the uproar if someone got away with something, or someone died due to something the police did not feel was worth following up or looking at.
It's their duty, and we would expect them to follow up and get access to anything that may help with a crime.

As I said before, it's so easy to appear smug and wise AFTER the event, and for something that's not affecting you.
 
Where can I apply to learn the skills where I can make $1.3m in few days work?

How does the gov. control spending and budgeting ?
 
I'm pretty sure NSA was the one that got everything they wanted even before they went to Apple. They just needed Apple's approval to make it count as legal evidence
 
Welcome to the Federal Government GS salary grades. Keep in mind that many Federal positions have a signification bonus system on top of the base salary. Same goes for the military where you get bonus pay above base pay considering your performance and achievements in your job or career. Look at the spiffs that Medal of Honor recipients receive. Some of that stuff you cannot buy at all.
Yeah, I'm good with bonuses for Medal of Honor recipients, but a bonus for everyone else in Government jobs is BS, unless you want to have a method for deduction a portion of their salary for being utterly useless, like our Senate, and most of this bureaucratic buffoonery.
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Where can I apply to learn the skills where I can make $1.3m in few days work?

How does the gov. control spending and budgeting ?
Do you know how "Organized Crime" controls spending and budgeting?

Take out the "Organized" part and you have our government.
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Truth doesn't change over time.
Lying does?
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Hussein has set a clear example that taxpayer money is to be spent freely in staggering amounts. Influenced by his hip hop friends like Jay-Z and Beyonce, Snoop and Suge, it's a ballers life for the prez.
You don't really know how government spending works, do you?

The House spends the money, don't see many Hip Hop artists hanging out with Paul Ryan.
 
What a waste of my tax dollars...
Blame your beloved Apple, who could have helped for free.

Apparently they don't even understand their own designs, so maybe it wouldn't have mattered. They have trouble fixing even basic iOS bugs.
 
Blame your beloved Apple, who could have helped for free.
It's good to know that you have no idea what this entire incident was about.

Apparently they don't even understand their own designs, so maybe it wouldn't have mattered. They have trouble fixing even basic iOS bugs.
And again.
 
The government and government agencies love to waste money on stupid stuff.
Stupid stuff - like seeing what's on the smartphone of a mass murderer? Where there could be incriminating info that would help catch other terrorists in their network? Or info about plans of another attack that could prevent another tragedy?

Stupid stuff like that?

Yeah, investigating crimes is overrated. Don't look into a mass killer's smartphone because it's his private data protected by the Constitution? Just clean up the mess and leave things be?
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It's good to know that you have no idea what this entire incident was about.


And again.
When you're obsessed about all things iPhone and Apple it's easy to lose sight of the most basic facts - a radical Islamic terrorist killed many people and the FBI wants to see what happened to be on his smartphone. And all you guys are fighting that and ridiculously extending that to mean the FBI is going to spy on millions of your precious iPhones.

I'd say *you* don't have any idea about the basics of this entire incident.
 
Stupid stuff - like seeing what's on the smartphone of a mass murderer? Where there could be incriminating info that would help catch other terrorists in their network? Or info about plans of another attack that could prevent another tragedy?

Stupid stuff like that?

Yeah, investigating crimes is overrated. Don't look into a mass killer's smartphone because it's his private data protected by the Constitution? Just clean up the mess and leave things be?
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When you're obsessed about all things iPhone and Apple it's easy to lose sight of the most basic facts - a radical Islamic terrorist killed many people and the FBI wants to see what happened to be on his smartphone. And all you guys are fighting that and ridiculously extending that to mean the FBI is going to spy on millions of your precious iPhones.

I'd say *you* don't have any idea about the basics of this entire incident.
Thanks for further proving my point.
 
Thanks for further proving my point.
Which was the tired comeback of - "you don't agree with my point of view, therefore you 'don't-know-what-you're-talking-about'" Dumbest comeback in the book.

But hey, you're right. Search me at the airport, search my house, car, and home, but hey dude - don't you DARE touch my phone! That's private data there!
 
Which was the tired comeback of - "you don't agree with my point of view, therefore you 'don't-know-what-you're-talking-about'" Dumbest comeback in the book.

But hey, you're right. Search me at the airport, search my house, car, and home, but hey dude - don't you DARE touch my phone! That's private data there!
Seems like you really don't grasp the gravitas of the issue at hand. So I think we're done here.
 
Seems like you really don't grasp the gravitas of the issue at hand. So I think we're done here.
So instead of enlightening us all as to what the 'gravitas' is, you punt with the "you have no clue" retort that adds absolutely ZERO value to any conversation.

I'll give you this, you didn't resort to the "your an idiot", which fits in the same class of response - make a judgement without offering anything.

You'd make a great president.
 
So instead of enlightening us all as to what the 'gravitas' is, you punt with the "you have no clue" retort that adds absolutely ZERO value to any conversation.

I'll give you this, you didn't resort to the "your an idiot", which fits in the same class of response - make a judgement without offering anything.

You'd make a great president.
I don't think you're an idiot, I just think there is more at stake than you realize.
 
So if they found the phone of the abductor, and of course there may be a clue on the phone to her location to save her, and they could send the phone to a lab to be investigated whilst they carried on all other leads to find her.

You would step in and say NO, leave that phone alone. Carry on doing what you are doing, but don't try and see if there is anything on the abductors phone.

Sorry, I don't believe you. I think you would want any and every avenue explored at all costs to try and save your daughter.

Do you honestly think this is a realistic scenario? Ha!
Abductor's have victim. Where did the phone come from?
Let's be a tad realistic with these fantastical scenarios. Thx.
 
So instead of enlightening us all as to what the 'gravitas' is, you punt with the "you have no clue" retort that adds absolutely ZERO value to any conversation.

I'll give you this, you didn't resort to the "your an idiot", which fits in the same class of response - make a judgement without offering anything.

You'd make a great president.
He doesn't have to enlighten "us all": we all get it except for you, it seems. It's obvious from the aggressive way you come at \-v-/ that you're looking for a fight, not discourse, and you seem to ignore that your original post "adds absolutely ZERO value to any conversation" as it's the same tired blame and attack that the uninformed have used since day one. Please go find a fight elsewhere.
 
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As someone who works in InfoSec, I can tell you that when I saw that $15k figure I almost died from laughing. And the $1mil is a bargain compared to what some exploits would fetch...
Yeah....looking back I should have scoffed at that initial figure too....especially given the extremely high profile of the events.
 
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