FBI Serves Apple Warrant to Gain US Senator's iCloud Data

[69Mustang]

That probably helps his case. It is hard to say that he was acting on insider information when these third parties were reacting to public information. A lot of people started selling stocks in January, because of the news that was widely available. He may have already been planning on selling the stock before he started getting daily briefings. I think it will be hard to prove he used information from those briefings. None of us know, but I’m sure that won’t stop people from claiming he is innocent or guilty based on political party alone

Doesn't really seem as if his guilt or innocence would be that hard to prove since his actions got a warrant issued for his iCloud data and based on that info, got a warrant issued for the seizure of his phone. What they find will go a long way toward proving whether or not he dumped stock based on privileged info.

Just my personal opinion, but I'd bet he confused (like a lot of people) Apple's inability unlock an individual's phone with inability to access cloud data.

 

[Rainshadow]

Why do I interpret this as grandstanding by the Justice Dept? No one on the planet would condone privileged information trading due to a pending pandemic on the stock market. (It's the I'm against killing cute fluffy puppies argument.) So, let's shame Apple for not providing us the information we don't need. Perhaps in the future the backdoor will be useful.

There are other ways to get the data that don't jeopardise the security for all users not named Burr.

1. No one is shaming Apple. They will abide by the warrant.

2. There is no security “jeopardizing” here. It is a standard warrant providing “the location to be searched and items being searched for” on one man’s account.

Did you even read the TITLE of the article?

 

[Smearbrick]

No mention of Senator Feinstein? She dumped shares as well.

Ah yes... the kindergarten playground defense.
If she did something wrong, she will be held accountable. Get over yourself.

 

[thadoggfather]

Out of the 4 senators under scrutiny, Burr is the only one whose initial statement admitted to making the sales personally. The others claimed their portfolios were managed by third parties, which presumably the FBI was able to easily verify.

always a 'you're looking at it wrong' roundabout explanation for giving democrats a pass. no impartiality or pretense of it. sigh... its all so predictable.

Go ahead and hit the thumbs down. doesn't make it less true.

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democrats were all over Kavanaugh, and the most damning accusations that necessarily meant he was guilty is that he confessed to liking beer.

here there's credible Biden accusations, in addition to his overwhelmingly creepy repeated behavior with kids caught on camera during hearings and meetings, publicly, and openly, and democrats don't seem at all questioning of his character. But Trump 'tweets mean things'

Opinion | I Believe Tara Reade. I’m Voting for Joe Biden Anyway. (Published 2020)

The importance of owning an ugly moral choice.

www.nytimes.com

At least an article like this is forthright in its intentions and perspective.

For some politics have gotten to be more powerful and influential than the most devoutly religious are towards their religion. And not knocking religion, in all situations, just comparing the two.

https://imgur.com/a/8zIkgc2

^ 'oh thats just Joe, he was just being friendly!' yeah perfectly reasonable explanation.

There are countless examples of things like this, who knows what happens when the cameras aren't rolling. but it probably aint good.

 

[Silencio]

Why is Senator Burr being investigated so heavily when others such as Senator Loeffler have arguably even worse exposure?

Why? Because Senator Burr is the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, which is conducting a bipartisan investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election, and has already released results that contradict the Trump party line. Trump and Barr want to force him off the committee and use these charges to discredit their findings, plain and simple.

 

[brucewayne]

Anyone that followed what happened in China in Dec/Jan could easily take the position to sell off before it hit the US. Don't forget this was all under the umbrella of the impeachment which could have also tanked the markets.

The problem is, what if you have access to sensitive information in addition to being able read the market?

Unrelated but the same scenario, the Secretary of Health in PA moved her mom out of a nursing home as COVID deaths have spiked for residents in personal care homes. Did she do it because she thought it was the best way to keep her mom safe, or was it because of the state order forcing nursing homes to accept covid patients?

Unless Barr was dumb enough to have actually gave his broker covid as the reason to sell off, I don't see how you make a solid case against him.

 

[nt5672]

The solution to this is very simple. Pass a law requiring the President, Senators and Representatives to divest themselves of market holdings while holding public office or place them in a blind trust. This way even if they are tempted, they can't take action on any information presented to them as part of their official duties.

Idiots all. There is no such thing as a "blind" trust. All the congress person has to do is visit with the trustee in person and remark "We might have a bit too much risk, you should think about cutting back on retail stocks."

Anyone here think the trustee is just going to ignore that! Nope. The whole blind trust thing is for fooling the idiots in the media and voters.

 

[happyprozak]

That's a broad brush you are painting with. What does it feel like to categorize everyone who believes in a different political philosophy than you do?

Obviously, not everyone will neatly fit within any political party. We either choose to be unaffiliated or we choose a party that most closely follows our beliefs and values. If you choose to call yourself a Republican then you choose to belong to a party that has denied science, pushes their religion on others, and has no problem perpetuating conspiracy theories that have no evidence.

Republicans also do not encompass "everyone who believes in a different political philosophy" than me, that would be a broad brush to paint with. I'll leave you to answer your question.

 

[tny]

This so much. I like how the article doesn’t even mention her and nothing ever happened to her. I guess you have to be Republican for it to be ilegal 🙄

It turned out that some of her trades were the exact opposite of what you'd expect given the information from the meeting - and she didn't actually attend the meeting. Inhofe also seems unlikely to have been acting on insider information, the timing was coincidental.

 

[unobtainium]

Was there anyone who didn't dump stocks?

I'm not a big fan of any of these politicians. But seriously, I'm sure anyone who trades stocks regularly saw this coming and sold off stocks only to buy them back when the market bottomed out.

Stock Market 101: Buy low, sell high.

They had confidential briefings from the House Intelligence Committee about the projected death toll and economic damage. You may have been able to guess but they were given direct confidential projections by the government.
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That's a very serious charge, one that should not be made lightly. Can you present evidence to support your allegation?

That’s literally what the FBI is investigating...
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It turned out that some of her trades were the exact opposite of what you'd expect given the information from the meeting - and she didn't actually attend the meeting. Inhofe also seems unlikely to have been acting on insider information, the timing was coincidental.

What about Loeffler? Everything about her excuses seemed phony.

 

[brofkand]

And make sure to use a long password with enough entropy. Don’t upload the file with a password of Dogs123

Lastly, if you really want to maintain confidentiality, don’t use iCloud.

Is there a powerful TNO (trust no one) cloud storage provider besides rolling your own? I'm not aware of any.

 

[BuffaloTF]

No mention of Senator Feinstein? She dumped shares as well.

All 4 of them need to go down. Not just 1 R, or 1 D.

All 4.

 

[happyprozak]

Is there a powerful TNO (trust no one) cloud storage provider besides rolling your own? I'm not aware of any.

I looked at this a while ago and there are cloud storage providers that offer end to end encryption with a no knowledge policy. Going off of memory, the most popular end to end encryption provider is based in Switzerland. I wonder what would happen if they were to be issued a warrant from the United States government. I imagine they would also hand over the data but the FBI would be unable to glean any information from it.

I haven't looked into it but didn't Microsoft recently implement a feature for OneDrive where you could place certain folders and files behind a 2FA password? I have no idea if that is end to end encryption but I need to remember to look into that.

 

[AtomicDusk]

Agreed but that’s not what happened. She has information about what was going on and gave it to her husband so he could sell their stock

Could you share the source you saw that?

 

[szw-mapple fan]

You can always use a utility like 7-zip to encrypt sensitive data using AES-256 before storing the files on iCloud.

That won't do anything for your iMessages or backups, though - just discrete files.

iMessage is end to end encrypted as long as you don't back up through iCloud.

 

[citysnaps]

That’s literally what the FBI is investigating...

Which if true, is far different than what the person claimed was fact, and what I was responding to.
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All 4 of them need to go down. Not just 1 R, or 1 D.

All 4.

Why?

 

[ssgbryan]

Probably cuz she's playing the "I don't make the trades, someone else does it for me" card. Apparently it's "blinded" but we all know that's a lie. No worries, rich people will come after her.

Burr basically had no excuse and said he did it based on public info instead of private lol.

Well, if you actually have evidence of wrong doing by Sen. Feinstein, then you should get in touch with the FBI.

If you don't have evidence - and we both know that you don't, you are just making yourself look more foolish.

 

[brofkand]

I looked at this a while ago and there are cloud storage providers that offer end to end encryption with a no knowledge policy. Going off of memory, the most popular end to end encryption provider is based in Switzerland. I wonder what would happen if they were to be issued a warrant from the United States government. I imagine they would also hand over the data but the FBI would be unable to glean any information from it.

I haven't looked into it but didn't Microsoft recently implement a feature for OneDrive where you could place certain folders and files behind a 2FA password? I have no idea if that is end to end encryption but I need to remember to look into that.

Yes, I have noticed that OneDrive recently launched a "Personal Vault" that is locked behind 2FA. However, I don't think it's E2E. It's just an extra layer of protection for those specially marked files in case someone usurps your OneDrive password, or you leave your PC logged in.

There are middlemen that encrypt OneDrive storage, like Boxcryptor, but I don't know how secure they are.

Security can certainly become a rabbit hole.

 

[jonblatho]

Ahh,

The same privacy advocacy warriors that would be ready to fall on the Constitutional sword to protect a mass shooter or suspected terrorist say GET 'EM!!!!! When it suits them.

Rights are rights. You don't get to fight for them only when you like the person, or the viewpoint.

If Apple gives over everything on this guy's encrypted iCloud account, they should unlock the iPhones of suspects in other investigations when presented with a warrant.

Fair is fair, folks

Most iCloud data, except for Keychain and Health and depending on user configuration Messages in iCloud, is accessible to Apple and can be turned over with valid legal process. Apple doesn’t make that a secret. If you don’t like this for whatever reason, disable whichever iCloud services you’re concerned about or don’t sign into iCloud.

Apple should absolutely offer a way to make end-to-end iCloud Backups, though, even if they have to hide it behind 15 flashing red warnings that communicate their data will be lost if they forget whatever password is used.

 

[ssgbryan]

Don't worry, they will clear him even after the evidence proves his guilt.

Not necessarily - Sen. Burr hasn't been trying to bury investigations against the trump Administration.

 

[russell_314]

Could you share the source you saw that?

Senators Accused Of Insider Trading, Dumping Stocks After Coronavirus Briefing

It's been reported that a number of senators sold their stock holdings after being briefed about the coronavirus and the massive impact it will have upon the economy, jobs and the stock market.

www.forbes.com

It in the news when it happened but I'm not sure what news agencies chose to ignore it. If all you watch is MSNBC and CNN you’re not going to get a complete story of the news. It’s the same way if you just watch only Fox News. If you didn’t see this on the news when it happened you should consider some additional sources for news. By all means keep watching the propaganda that CNN puts out but go online and look for other news. This way when a major event like that happens you won’t be in the dark.

 

[ssgbryan]

They had confidential briefings from the House Intelligence Committee about the projected death toll and economic damage. You may have been able to guess but they were given direct confidential projections by the government.
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That’s literally what the FBI is investigating...
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What about Loeffler? Everything about her excuses seemed phony.

She has both plausible deniability AND she does tend to suck up to the president.

 

[MacBH928]

Hold tight... ProtonDrive is in development.

Today they expose your personal data, tomorrow they insist on building transparent glass houses.

 

[CarlJ]

Don’t be such a victim.

For a team that spends so much time calling everyone else snowflakes, they certainly paint themselves as poor innocent victims a lot.

 

[Somian]

A good reminder to only put encrypted containers into iCloud. But that isn’t easy to use on iOS.