If it's not cheaper, it's not going to make a lick of difference.
People aren't buying it in any numbers because it's WAY too expensive.
People aren't buying it in any numbers because it's WAY too expensive.
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FCC Accidentally Leaks Apple's Next Vision Pro
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I’m waiting for the slimmed down design AVP 🥽 🕶️ in 2027. The price should be slimmed down too like around $1500.
What is up with the incompetence of the FCC posting this kind of information online. I do imagine that the person posting these documents that are not to be posted online is going to get fired.
The United States Federal Communications Commission (FCC) has seemingly confirmed Apple's work on an updated version of the Vision Pro headset.
One of several documents the FCC shared today references an Apple-designed "Head Mounted Device" with a model number of A3416. An included image confirms the device is a Vision Pro.
The FCC's uploads are transmission tests, SAR test reports, and WLAN test reports, so there's not a lot of additional product information available.
According to rumors, Apple is working on a refreshed version of the Vision Pro that has a faster M5 chip. The headset isn't expected to feature design updates, with Apple simply updating the M2 chip to a newer, more capable M-series chip. The updated Vision Pro could launch before the end of the year, and it will likely continue to be priced at $3,499.
The FCC's files include a confidentiality request from Apple, but the documents were published anyway. The FCC also shared documents that hint at future MacBook Pro and iPad Pro models.
A slimmed-down "Vision Air" is in development too, but we aren't expecting that until 2027.
Article Link: FCC Accidentally Leaks Apple's Next Vision Pro
Development purposes.
If you want better apps, you need better hardware. The M2 can only do so much before you need a better chip. The highly sought-after "killer apps" would undoubtedly become even more impressive with enhanced hardware.
Apple is providing developers with the necessary tools and resources to expand their creative vision beyond the capabilities demonstrated with the M2 model.
is this even legal why they keep doing this
You also need "customers", of which they are sorely lacking due to how wildly overpriced this thing is.
Wake me up when there are bad ass first person shooters and it does not weigh 200lbs.
Isn’t this the second time in as many days? Either this FCC is grossly incompetent, or they intentionally leaked it. Actually, both things are probably true.
Patience. When Apple releases a cheaper, more affordable Vision headset, the goal is to have a ton of apps in place for people to enjoy the headset. That's why it's a glorifed development headset for now. In its current state, the AVP isn't for the regular Joe. They will get bored with it after a few weeks due to the lack of x, y and z in the App Store.
You could use a straw, or beer or soda out of the classic beer bottle shape… 👍🏻I really wanted my next Vision Pro to be slimmer so that I can drink something with it on. Right now anything I drink the Vision Pro blocks the cup.
Yeah yeah but still no apps to entice average joe. Even regular folks saves up their money to buy a more expensive iphone pro max 2 TB. So I think money is not an issue if people really want it - they will buy it.
This is actually true. Apparently iOS 26 has a small file related to setting up a Vision Pro. But at that size, it’s nothing to worry about.
There won’t be killer app on this form factor. It’s way too clunky.
Form comes first, then find ways to fit the tech in.
Oura ring is a good to wear ring, and then they fit as much sensors into it to detect vitals.
Meta rayban is a pair of glasses you can wear everyday, and then they cramp as much functionality into it as possible.
Start with a goggle, doesn’t really matter how much computing power you put into the goggle.
If they put am Apple watch chip into a pair of glasses, and bring the same apps/notifications to a tiny display. Then add EMG to apple watch to track gestures.. it would sell like a hot cake
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Yes, especially GPU wise and power efficiency. The weakest experience in the Vision Pro is currently the passthrough, which while much better then competitors by a long shot still makes it so you have to regularly take it off / break the experience to read text or see 100% clearly.
Its not because of the cameras, the weakness comes from the GPU apple had to tone down the quality of passthrough because the M2 runs very hot and its GPU is weak while at the same time the vision pro is pushing 8k video at 90 FPS and stitching together a bunch of cameras in real time. Its actually nuts to think about the technology that went into it.
With the M5 and its much better GPU it should be able to push much higher quality passthrough while running at much cooler temperatures and not melting your face off lol.
Better pass through, a newer chip .. none of that really matters in terms of why it's not selling.
It's way too expensive and lacking software & content support.
Those two things are inextricably linked.
That's in addition to the always limited appeal of strapping a socially isolating mask onto your face.
It's way too expensive and lacking software & content support.
Those two things are inextricably linked.
That's in addition to the always limited appeal of strapping a socially isolating mask onto your face.
Way too clunky depends on how and what you use it for.
For example if you use it as a spatial computer as intended you can literally be sitting at a desk with nothing and suddenly be working with your vision pro on and have a gigantic up to 10k resolution display anywhere and wherever you want. If I want to take my ultrawide monitor it is extremely clunky and heavy to travel with, yet I can pop on my vision Pro and boom suddenly anywhere is a movie theatre, a gigantic monitor to work on, a private way to text/email and work on sensitive documents in public, lay in bed and watch shows on the roof instead of holding a phone up until my arm falls off.
My understanding is the R1 handles eye movement and gestures but I could be wrong and as far as I am aware the R1 will also be upgraded
Of course its a reason. If I am paying $3,500 the product needs to be perfect. If pass through is lacking (which it is) it is a big damper on the experience. I view the first AVP as a solid development device and for them to perfect the visionOS ecosystem. I don't think Apple knew what it would be used for really and with this first iteration they saw a much greater use of productivity tools and businesses then they first imagined.
I have no problem paying $3,500 for a badass work computer, hell I paid more for my studio and the AVP arguably has much more use cases.
Apple Vision Pro now with usb c
WHY DON'T THEY REMOVE THE STUPID EXTERNAL SCREEN. I can't stand it. It's just an obvious design win but they're keeping it because they're stubborn.
Significantly better but doesn't solve any problems it has.