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just get over it already with the conspiracy whining. apple is a company. they are not hydra.

:DI almost choked on my Payday candy bar! The only reason they appear not to be Hydra is that :apple: couldn't make Hydra thinner -unless Hydra could morph into more of a flatworm.
 
haha..

Apple doesn't want people to listen to free radio (i.e. music).


Nokia Navigator 6110 did exactly that... Instead of using "paid data charging" as u do now, the wired earphone lead doubled as an antenna for picking up standard FM radio broadcasts (and also suffered the same interference). but at least it was "free"
 
This dude was speaking at a broadcaster forum and mentioned FM receivers in moderns mobile devices and how he encourages them to be enabled to allow for emergencies and consumer choice. Not requiring. Not forcing by the government gun. Nope.

People are freaking the heck out over it as if he's forcing everyone to listen to Rush and Alex freaking Jones.

Get ahold of yourself people. Mercy. If the receiver can be switched on and provide usable service then there is nothing lost for the consumer. Use it. Don't use it. But the option is what matters.

And those who fear it could give more ears to opposing ideology... that's called a discussion. We used to do it a lot before 2001.
 
would like to go back to the old ways without milking your money mobile carriers do now, with just listing to music, or radio stations, but sadly those days are long gone..

Isn't this still radio streaming anyway using an app, or a browser ? like we use on our computers..? What added benefit is there with the chip ?
 
A lot of people are posting that this situation is all caused by money-grubbing Apple. What about Google? What about Motorola? Samsung? HTC? Not one of them is using/allowing this technology, and it's not because Apple is threatening them.If one of the major phone suppliers broke ranks and allowed their phones to use FM radio and Apple ran a campaign against them THEN you could vilify Apple by itself. But all of the phone makers are invested in music services, and none of them are interested in supporting a rival free service.Apple phones are less than 50% of the US market, they don't have anywhere near a monopoly. If free FM was successful, and it may not be because the amount of ads, limited range, and repetitive playlists, you wouldn't need to get 50 or 60% of the market. I don't know where the break even point is but considering the technology is, and has been, mostly there in EVERY smartphone for a long time this is NOT an Apple only situation.
 
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who listens to FM radio anymore unless they really have to?
I do. Especially here in Canada with limited data from our 3 big carriers. I mostly listen to my iPod/iPhone/BT in the car, but turn on the news on FM. I refuse to pay for music subscription services and especially when Sirius Satellite sounds awful.
 
God I hate Trump's FCC pick so much. Anyone who doesn't support the govt. mandating this has never been in a large city during an emergency. NYC during 9/11, the blackout, etc., almost instantly loses all means of communication, including the ability to place phone calls.

During 9/11, parts of Manhattan lost TV service also (particularly when the Tower's fell, and those antenna's went down).

What happens if a dirty bomb goes off in Time's Square, taking out the Empire State building and Chrysler building antennas (a not impossible scenario--especially under Trump's policies)? How many people will die because of difficultly disseminating information?
 
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I do. Especially here in Canada with limited data from our 3 big carriers. I mostly listen to my iPod/iPhone/BT in the car, but turn on the news on FM. I refuse to pay for music subscription services and especially when Sirius Satellite sounds awful.

Sirius may not accept "outside" commercials but they have lots of cross channel ones. And most of the station DJ's talk as much or more than broadcast DJ's do. A few "if you like this listen to channel x" would be ok, but it's a lot more than 1 or 2 an hour. And not all channels are commercial free anyway. I would be interested in seeing a comparison between OTA and satellite stations about the actual songs played per hour.
 
Affordable android phones are not in the same market as the iPhone. Your theory that Apple is intentionally not activating the radio because of AM is pure fantasy. AM is probably the only streaming service that is actually consistently paying the artists. Spotify is perpetually bleeding money. Google rips off artists via youtube. Tidal is nearly broke. They can't even pay what they owe to taxi companies...

http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2016/09/13/tidal-full-financial-filing-ugly/

Christ, not only are you a fanboy, you're one of those snobby elitist fanboy.

http://bgr.com/2015/06/25/apple-music-royalty-payments-2/

PS I spent $600 for the Moto X Play in October of 2015 & IT has an FM radio (headphone as antenna). I guess that is the same as a $100 "burner" smartphone you pick up at Staples.
 
Sirius may not accept "outside" commercials but they have lots of cross channel ones. And most of the station DJ's talk as much or more than broadcast DJ's do. A few "if you like this listen to channel x" would be ok, but it's a lot more than 1 or 2 an hour. And not all channels are commercial free anyway. I would be interested in seeing a comparison between OTA and satellite stations about the actual songs played per hour.
I was talking about sound not content quality. FM, despite interference, on a local station sounds better than the 64kbps tinny sound you get from Satellite. It's ok if you listen to talk radio, but not music.
 
A lot of people are posting that this situation is all caused by money-grubbing Apple. What about Google? What about Motorola? Samsung? HTC? Not one of them is using/allowing this technology, and it's not because Apple is threatening them.If one of the major phone suppliers broke ranks and allowed their phones to use FM radio and Apple ran a campaign against them THEN you could vilify Apple by itself. But all of the phone makers are invested in music services, and none of them are interested in supporting a rival free service.Apple phones are less than 50% of the US market, they don't have anywhere near a monopoly. If free FM was successful, and it may not be because the amount of ads, limited range, and repetitive playlists, you wouldn't need to get 50 or 60% of the market. I don't know where the break even point is but considering the technology is, and has been, mostly there in EVERY smartphone for a long time this is NOT an Apple only situation.

My god, I could just swat down people like you like annoying house flies. It's as easy as using Google in 10 seconds:

https://www.androidpit.com/android-phones-with-offline-fm-radio

Perhaps I'm impatient tonight, but I wish some users would just delete their accounts if they won't research it (I'll excuse those who didn't know Apple has had this secret available for 10 years, though has been cited in tech articles).
 
Christ, not only are you a fanboy, you're one of those snobby elitist fanboy.

http://bgr.com/2015/06/25/apple-music-royalty-payments-2/

PS I spent $600 for the Moto X Play in October of 2015 & IT has an FM radio (headphone as antenna). I guess that is the same as a $100 "burner" smartphone you pick up at Staples.
You should look at the date of your article vs the article you quoted. I'll go with the most recent data. While you are stuck in your 2015 bubble. Maybe the next time you call someone a snob you can do it with current data.
 
::facepalm::

The chip is already in the phone. It uses less battery power than running an internet radio app. There would be as many "bugs" with FM in your phone as there are with a standalone FM radio (namely: none). Apple redesigns the iPhone case at least every other year, and especially with the phones getting larger, there is plenty of room to put in an FM antenna (if necessary). None of your points are valid.
Maybe but I haven't heard any valid points to include FM either.
 
Maybe but I haven't heard any valid points to include FM either.
Natural disasters? Not eating up data?

If anything, it's collusion between carriers & iPhone to make people eat up data & subscribe to various streaming services.

Doesn't make both parties look very consumer friendly, hence the FCC stand... endorsed by Consumer Reports. So while not an enforceable law, as some people say "stay out of it, FCC", it's you Americans who still have to rent your cable set-top boxes, while the FCC would like to give the consumers options to buy (like Canada has had; I paid $420 for Rogers HD STB in 2006).
 
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I really wish they did. To all the naysayers, activating it wouldn't change a thing for you. It's nice to have the option.
I remember being in the 8.8 Chile earthquake (2010). We had no power for days, nothing. The only way to hear what was going on (an even hearing reports on the tsunami) was through FM radio. It sucked that I had to ask for a friends cheap android phone which had the functionality. Everyone in my house had iPhones. Finally we had to stay in the car to know what was happening.
 
It's all about the money and the big players don't want the competition.

I would also imagine there's an inherent prejudice against conservative talk radio.
Short of blocking access, hindering and limiting access is the next best [legal] thing to do.

There's not much, if any, conservative talk radio on the FM band (certainly not in the largest radio market in the US: Los Angeles). If anything I think it's a factor of clueless people actually believing no one still listens to terrestrial radio.
[doublepost=1487309699][/doublepost]It's funny the new FCC chair brought this issue up. After being forced to use a Sony Xperia for a few weeks, I appreciated the fact I had the option to listen to the radio.

I am also surprised how uninformed so many of you are. Yes, there's plenty of music and more than enough ads on radio, but travel down the dial between 88.1 and 91.9 and you will find plenty of commercial-free broadcasting including classical, jazz, and news-talk stations.
 
You don't know what the FCC commissioner does, do you?

In fairness, your statement and question seems far fetched. Most would not have knowledge of "What the FCC Cimmissioner does." I wouldn't use that against anybody, unless you choose to educate them on the roles and responsibilities of the commissioner.
 
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I didn't know people still listened to the radio, they just play the same 5 songs over and over again.
Really? If you think that every radio station plays the same crap all day long then buddy you are so mistaken.
I listen to BBC Radio 3 in the mornings, Classical mostly. At other times, it is Radio 4 which hardly plays any music.
And then Planet Rock where even listenrs get a chance to submit a playlist.
 
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Consider FM radio require an antenna, especially a long one, this will be the reverse of "courage"
I guess we are moving back to audio jack?
 
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