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Lame attempt at sounding like a consumer advocate, when in reality most consumers aren't going to care about having an active FM reception on their smartphone. Maybe this guy should actually put some thought into why prices are so high in the U.S. for internet service. Could it be that the market isn't really all that competitive?
 
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This is a good idea.

Here in the UK, if i want to listen to my local football match that is covered by my local BBC radio station, if i use the BBC iPlayer radio app, as soon as the match starts the commentary goes off due to broadcasting rights, i can only listen to the build up. So if my iphone had an FM transmitter activated i wouldn't have this problem.

It is crazy that i cant listen to it on the app when it is on a free radio channel anyway.
 
Yes, many Android phones have had this feature but their "solution" is often to use the headphones as the antenna. There are considerable issues with having the antenna in the same device when you also are transmitting on frequencies in the same relative space. It is not something that can be solved due to a little thing called physics and the properties of radio waves. By using the headphones not only are you gaining an antenna, but more importantly you are moving it outside and away from the rest of the phone and it's transmitters. This though is a major problem when you have an all digital connector as then you have to look at things like connecting it on a ground pin, which needs all sort of protection and other circuitry to accomplish (and obviously it wouldn't work at all, in any way with wireless headphones). At this point in time it just can't be done.

Doesn't Apple boast that they have the best engineers and design team in the world and all those great promotional videos for design, function and engineering. Are you telling me that they cannot find a solution, give me a break considering the focus on emojis, seriously.
 
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North America is just one country in the world. Laws are not universal.
Well...North America isn't a country, but if the FCC forced the carriers/Apple to turn on the FM module in the United States, you are correct, other countries might not get it turned on.
 
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Why exactly are they even bringing this up is really what I'm asking. It's obvious this is not at all for the consumers good, so what's the motive?

Indeed, it's so obvious that the FCC intends to screw over consumers by suggesting Apple allow their customers to do something already allowed by countless Android phones, and for free even! What Trumpian scheme are they cooking up?

In all seriousness, you posit that there's some kind of ulterior motive here that will benefit the government as opposed to the consumer, yet you decline to offer your own reasonable suggestion for this motive beyond your initial proposition that somehow FM radio will be used to track people.
 
Lame attempt at sounding like a consumer advocate, when in reality most consumers aren't going to care about having an active FM reception on their smartphone. Maybe this guy should actually put some thought into why prices are so high in the U.S. for internet service. Could it be that the market isn't really all that competitive?

Just because you do not care, does not mean others don't. He can have a priority list for things to be addressed, maybe the high internet price affects certain areas, maybe he is working on it and there are a few details that need to be ironed out before it is proposed. No one know, stop knocking a good idea.
 
North America is just one country in the world. Laws are not universal.
I like quality audio too, but doesn't Sirius FM sound quality suck? It sounds like you are listening to it from a metal can.

They're compressing it wrong, but if it's coming from a satellite, it's going to be compressed harder than a Powerbar left under a dumpster full of concrete. Good FM sounds amazing, depending on where it sits in the FM "allocation" and it's not VBR. And running the audio signal through those Orban or CRL audio compressors don't hurt, either.
 
Doesn't Apple boast that they have the best engineers and design team in the world and all those great promotional videos for design, function and engineering. Are you telling me that they cannot find a solution, give me a break considering the focus on emojis, seriously.
It doesn't matter how "good" your engineers are, there are some problems that just can't be overcome. Radio waves are immensely complicated. Besides, even if they could, is FM radio built into the phone really that important. Why waste the radio engineers time? I would rather have better cell/wifi reception. The fact that no one even makes a lightning FM radio tuner (which would be very easy to do) shows that there simply isn't a market for this when you can buy a FM/AM radio for next to nothing.
 
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Right-wing radio talk shows never took off on podcasts and live streams. They still linger on AM stations, farting out nonsense and conservative conspiracy theories. Giving these bottom feeders' bad ideas a way to pollute modern devices is a bad idea.

i was sure hoping we could politicize FM chips. Well done.
 
Indeed, it's so obvious that the FCC intends to screw over consumers by suggesting Apple allow their customers to do something already allowed by countless Android phones, and for free even! What Trumpian scheme are they cooking up?

In all seriousness, you posit that there's some kind of ulterior motive here that will benefit the government as opposed to the consumer, yet you decline to offer your own reasonable suggestion for this motive beyond your initial proposition that somehow FM radio will be used to track people.

I'm not getting involved in politics here, I am just stating the folks they put in charge of the FCC seem to not really care about the consumer one iota. Shame on me that I have little faith in people who value money over everything else in life.

How can they track people via FM? No clue. Maybe not even possible, just a general distrust of people who again have put profits over everything else.
 
Lame attempt at sounding like a consumer advocate, when in reality most consumers aren't going to care about having an active FM reception on their smartphone. Maybe this guy should actually put some thought into why prices are so high in the U.S. for internet service. Could it be that the market isn't really all that competitive?

Actually, no. First these comments come speaking at a broadcasting symposium to broadcasters, not to a consumer rights group, and not as some priority project of his. They were a sentence amoung many others. Second, OTA can provide an important "life line" function during a major disaster where cell bandwidth might be restricted or compromised. FM is less likely to be jammed or taken over by first responders. It's fun I'm sure to knock it down as old fashioned. It may be, but it's tried and true, and typically available when other options are not.

As for cell plan prices in the U.S. actually a lot of the reason it's so expensive is because 1) its a big country with people living in all corners, 2) there is a lot of local regulation and process regarding where cell towers can be placed, 3) those towers have to be leased -- usually the cellcos do not own the land the towers sit on.
 
Apple's not going to do it because it'll allow you to listen to radio for free, rather than having to pay them for a monthly subscription.

you can listen to free radio on iPhones right now. There are a bunch of apps that let users do just that.
 
It doesn't matter how "good" your engineers are, there are some problems that just can't be overcome. Radio waves are immensely complicated. Besides, even if they could, is FM radio built into the phone really that important. Why waste the radio engineers time? I would rather have better cell/wifi reception. The fact that no one even makes a lightning FM radio tuner (which would be very easy to do) shows that there simply isn't a market for this when you can buy a FM/AM radio for next to nothing.

So with the rumoured wireless charging, there is magically space in an iPhone and no interference with 3G/LTE/WiFi signals. I don't buy it, remember the "you are holding it wrong" quote. You have to think if it is free to the consumer what financial benefit does Apple have as a conflict of interest with Apple Music. Does Apple Music allow health and safety alerts and announcements on a municipal level. Again not buying it. Next up Apple enables this and your comments will be see its magical and Apple innovates. We should push Apple to be the best it can, rather than make excuses that they cannot. It will only benefit the consumer, unless you are against the consumer.

Affordable Android phones have this capability for years, are you telling me that Android engineers are able to do this under a budget and Apple cannot. :eek::p:D
 
It doesn't matter how "good" your engineers are, there are some problems that just can't be overcome. Radio waves are immensely complicated. Besides, even if they could, is FM radio built into the phone really that important. Why waste the radio engineers time? I would rather have better cell/wifi reception. The fact that no one even makes a lightning FM radio tuner (which would be very easy to do) shows that there simply isn't a market for this when you can buy a FM/AM radio for next to nothing.

And that $5 radio will never need an OS update.
 
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Why not allow both. Consumer choice. If the hardware is there...! I had no idea.
FM Radio is 10 mins. of music, 30 mins. of ads, no thanks.
Don't forget, radio carries more than just music. You don't have to use it. Others might like the trade offs. Not everyone uses the same apps. I look at it like it is just another app. Why not have the choice?
 
... Apple's stance on the activation of FM receivers in iPhones, and whether it could do so with a simple iOS update, is uncertain. Some have said that iPhones would need another antenna, which may not fit, for proper FM signal reception. The company did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Apple could use the headphone cable as an antenna, like everyone else has for 35+ years. Oh. Wait...
 
Gee, all those GREAT stations on FM! Piles and piles of crap, with advertising. But, that's Pai's point, right? Maybe he'd like an AM chip, so we can get Alex Jones and Limbaugh!
 
Seems like there are more important things to worry about than whether a phone has FM turned on or off...
Like weather ISPs are snooping on our browsing/shopping habits to target adds ?
Wait he believes in free markets so he is abandoning this law so that IPSs can snoop on out browsing habits & send targeted adds and make money from advertisement.
 
Don't forget, radio carries more than just music. You don't have to use it. Others might like the trade offs. Not everyone uses the same apps. I look at it like it is just another app. Why not have the choice?

People here are brainwashed, it is either Apples choice or no choice. Where Apple's choice is always the best and only choice and no choice is scary and deny that it is a bad idea out of fear.

People give me your money, I have some snake oil in a bottle with the Apple logo. It costs $100 USD. :p:D
 
There are some really great FM stations that Apple Music can't even compete with. If it really is the free market then let FM radio compete. Anything else is complete idiocy. Then again most who advocate no FM fall into that category. My old Nokia had FM radio and it was fantastic, miss that function. It's a really "nice to have" feature in addition to the rest of the mix.

Consumer law advocates, activate the FM chips!
 
Apple has their reasons as to why they haven't activated the FM radio.

Perhaps it's because they want to protect iTunes and Apple Music. Perhaps it's because they don't want to dedicate any resources to it. Doesn't matter what their reason is/are. It's not activated and probably never will be, unless they are forced to do so.

If having an FM radio is important to you, get one of the other 50+% of phones that have it unlocked.

If you want an FM capable iPhone, then send a suggestion to Apple. If enough people did the same, maybe Apple would dedicate some resources to it.
 
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