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How will Twitter be able to afford their traffic fees? On second thought, this is a good thing.



Not really.
 
You're starting to see that shift with cord cutting eating into cable TV.

Cord cutting is what has lead cable companies to increase rates for their services and internet. Because people are moving to streaming (in addition to OTA). If there are more people cutting the cord, you will see greater internet costs because the cable companies will need/want to make their money back on what they are losing.

And not having internet access, in the US, at this period of time, is really not an option. If you think it's truly a viable option, there's little reason to have a discussion with you.
 
How will Twitter be able to afford their traffic fees? On second thought, this is a good thing.



Not really.

Maybe they should charge more for those who tweet the most or have the most followers. Trump - look out, your bill is going up!
 
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Uh...you need the internet in order to cord cut unless you are just using an antenna for the locals, but how many are doing that? It's a pretty subpar experience for a lot of people. And isps have responded by putting in bandwidth caps just like phone companies.

And if my Facebook, Youtube, Netflix, etc experience sucks or costs me $200 on top of the $60 I pay them, I may just do without. I'd imagine if the Internet went back to dial up we'd see many people cancel. Or at least ditch it and go with the phone internet, which is supposedly a thing among Milleneals.
 
no- things happen behind the scenes all the time without consumer knowledge of what happens. These are private companies that do not require transparency to how they manage/operate their own private businesses. Look at your internet rates every month - keeps going up with fees, charges, what not. Prices keep going up while they keep tacking on tv bundles, etc.

NN means dick. They continue to rape customers. The only thing different is other private companies now have to pay more fees to Comcast and the like. Comcast is the major problems since they are the only ISP that connects you to the rest of the world. There should be strict regulations against Comcast.
Then why do you care what happens with Net Neutrality if it doesn't impact anything anyway? I believe it's for the better good and rolling it back is only going to do what you dislike: add more fees.

EDIT: I should add, that if you believe Net Neutrality is not helping, then do you have evidence of companies making data modifications like they were prior to 2015? Evidence of that was posted earlier.
 
Have had no problems with Netflix in the past.

Comcast in my area was throttling Netflix to the point of not useable. Thus, Netflix created their own speed test called Fast. Comcast wanted more money for the bandwidth Netflix was using and at the same time allowing their systems and customers unlimited speed and data useage. To this day, Comcast limits the amount of data streaming to one terabyte, while allowing unlimited data useage for their systems. The irony, I paid for their entire infrastructure costs through taxes and fees. Essentially adding tolls to the road I built. Nothing to do with content costs, just a toll on my tax dollar road.
 
Have you actually read it or are you relying on news sources to tell you what is in it?

Congress hasn't read it, so neither they nor we don't actually know what is in it.

I'd remind you the last one was a 479 page document delivered 1 hour before the vote - it included illegible scribbling on the margins, entire pages crossed out, and drawings made by one senator's grandchild.

My favorite move was dropping the AMT to 20% - along with accidentally removing all of the loopholes that allowed companies to get below 20%. Which is why they are having to vote again - gotta keep the lobbyist happy.
 
LOL... educate yourself man. There are COUNTLESS times prior to 2015 where ISP's have throttled and blocked companies based on the type of traffic they produce. Netflix had to pay ISP's to get their speeds increased. Look it up on Google.

(I'm not the person you were replying to, just wanted to mention my personal experience with this particular case)

Don't even have to look it up -- I was extremely aware of this throttling before it ever hit the news, and Netflix decided to give in and pay up. With a 150mbps connection, every show was coming in at sub-480P unless I was watching at off hours (and even then it was intermittent at best). Magically, after the news broke that Netflix had paid Comcast for bandwidth priority, everything was 1080 at all hours virtually overnight.

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I'd love to believe in the sentiment that competition will allow the free market to regulate itself, but the problem is that we've seen over and over how corporations destroy competition through conglomeration if they're left to their own devices. Why wouldn't they, morality aside? The best system we've come up with so far is to operate a free market with regulations that limit conglomeration and essentially force competition, but corporations don't like that because it harms their bottom lines. Economic freedom shouldn't be about placating the existing titans of industry, but instead about promoting competition and the opportunity for smaller players to enter the field.

I bring this up because the common response to something like net neutrality is "just vote with your wallet, pick an ISP that doesn't engage in practices you don't support." Which is, of course, impossible because there are not multiple ISPs. And yes, to make things more complicated, this is in large part a result of a different set of government regulations. But even if you took away those rules and allowed multiple cable companies to operate in the same city, how many choices does that give you? Comcast and Time Warner, essentially. Not a lot of choice.
 
Well, time to look for VPNs...
Does it matter? Its company's who pay for faster lines etc so their service is better then others. I doubt they will ask users for extra money for a better service. This is all going to be corperate games to get more money out of them.
 
Not a Trump voter, but I'm happy that he destroyed that Syrian air base and pulled us out of a few crappy international organizations. Obama was alright except that he was a total loser when dealing with Syria and Russia. That and he massively raised taxes ON THE SELF-EMPLOYED to fund ACA.
ha ha ha. They where warned in advance and no real damage was done except US wasting a lot of money on cruise missiles. It hasn't changed anything and Trump-US is still the loser regarding Russia and Syria. Trump is damaging US influence on the International scene big time, the way he acts and the way he is laying off diplomats.
 
Sure and someone will come along and offer an ISP that doesn't have those restrictions and gives superior service. Like many of the municipal ones. Or EPB in TN. Or many of the smaller WiSPs.

What you have to remember is you have the ultimate power. Cancel the Internet (life will go on) and if enough people do they will see profits go down and they will rescind the changes. You're starting to see that shift with cord cutting eating into cable TV.

Heck, if enough people stop using the Internet and it eats into YouTubs, Google, Apple, etc's profits, one of them will put a stop to it real quick. Or buy a few ISP's and roll their own.

No they won't - most municipalities allow only 1 ISP. I'd remind you that EPB is under threat because it is a government service delivering services at a lower cost than private corporations are willing to do.
 
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Trumpsters still defending the pedophile-endorser and applauding this move by a Verizon shill. All the misinformation about 2015 regulation when Net Neutrality has existed since the birth of the internet. 2015 was only a move to Title II in order to preserve the internet as it was conceived for 25 years. The 2015 vote helped preserve the internet as it was conceived and fostered.

Now, Trumpsters and their corporate shills have forever changed the rules of the internet. And the Trumpsters will engage in more disinformation and continue to talk about emails, uranium, and Benghazi (just look at the frontage of FoxNews) when actual corruption is happening in broad daylight.

Why did the FCC vote on this issue now? What spurred this vote? Why were public comments not taken into account, and why wasn't the massive fraud of commenting not investigated? Why did calls from Senators on both sides of the aisle not be answered?

Trumpsters, when will you ask those tough questions of your beloved leader? You don't want to acknowledge his corruption, so you change the subject to something irrelevant. Why did the FCC overreach on this vote, take away local and state's rights, AND ignore the public?

This is executive overreach to the extreme, and Trumpsters still continue to defend him. They should be ashamed of themselves for trashing our Republic and acting un-American.
 
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Bill Clinton style tax cuts.
Bill Clinton style immigration reform/rule of law.

Reduction in regulation.
Attempt to repeal Obamacare

Hasn't nuke North Korea. Hasn't started a war with Russia/Iran.

Stock market at all time high.
Unemployment at historic lows.
Unemployment in the Hispanic community at an all time low.
Cratering unemployment in the African-American community/record high wealth creation/home ownership.

Hasn't hunted down homosexuals, banned homosexual marriage, or put homosexuals in interment camps.

I mean not sure why Democrats would hate the guy. Can understand why Progressives do, they are irrational.
Fair points, but there's also:
- Banned transgender people from joining the military. If it weren't for this, I'd say he's perfectly friendly with them.
- Rollback of environmental protection laws. Can't say I know enough to have an opinion on them, but Democrats do.
- Various measures in support of Israel that have angered various parties.
- New tax bill includes a tax specifically on graduate students.
- Publicly threatened to defund UC Berkeley over protests that weren't sponsored by the university (I was there at the time and can affirm the school actually stuck its neck out to defend the controversial speakers).
- Said a lot of things that are clearly meant to be offensive, including referring to a Native American senator only as "Pocahontas." This sounds innocent, but he's a figurehead of the US, and this makes us look bad.
 
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No they won't - most municipalities allow only 1 ISP. I'd remind you that EPB is under threat because it is a government service delivering services at a lower cost than private corporations are willing to do.

That's funny. Many areas around here have your choice of Verizion (FIOS or DSL), or Comcast. Or Centurylink or Comcast. Or a local wISP. It's the case in many FIOS areas as well. Or even any area that has a cable and phone company.
 
Banned transgender people from joining the military. If it weren't for this, I'd say he's perfectly friendly with them.

Until you get to "Supreme Court Nominee" (and possibly another future one) that wants us to be living in 1890
 
Dial-up is garbage, but DSL is perfectly usable for web browsing and video streaming. Heck it can be faster than "broadband" in certain areas. Just wouldn't want to deal with SSH connections or gaming over it.

Only if you are close enough to the exchange - ATT has been promising me that they will have it at my house "real soon" - that was in 2004, and I am still waiting......
 
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Jerry Brown, CA Governor.

For "Net Neutrality", also for Paid toll lanes on highways (Lexus lanes) all of our tax dollars paid for.
 
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And Pai, before the vote was final, sought to swat away his critics. “Following today’s vote,” he began, “Americans will still be able to access the websites they want to visit*. They will still be able to enjoy the services they want to enjoy. There will still be cops on the beat guarding a free and open Internet.”

* For two weeks, giving internet providers time to set up their new plans/marketing materials.
 
That's funny. Many areas around here have your choice of Verizion (FIOS or DSL), or Comcast. Or Centurylink or Comcast. Or a local wISP. It's the case in many FIOS areas as well. Or even any area that has a cable and phone company.

Where is "here"?
 
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