Which is why it doesn't make much sense on a MBP that already has Touch ID. Besides opening the lid, Face ID would require keyboard or touchpad input to activate.
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Which is why it doesn't make much sense on a MBP that already has Touch ID. Besides opening the lid, Face ID would require keyboard or touchpad input to activate.
People say the same thing about iPhone and iPad ("Touch ID is good enough - no need for Face ID") yet the demand is there and obviously Apple deemed it worthy of a lot of R&D. And Windows computers already use a form of facial recognition for login and have for quite some time, so it's clearly widely considered a desirable feature. There are pros and cons to each method depending on how you plan to use the device. The only reason I started commenting on this thread was because I saw misconceptions about how Face ID works (e.g. people concerned that they would accidentally approve purchases or unintentionally unlock their MacBook).
The thing is, you don't know the experience yet. Face ID hasn't been on any MacOS device yet. So I wouldn't call people's concerns misconceptions, being that it might not be implemented the same as iOS devices. A Macbook is differ than a portable slab device. Nobody is closing and opening a macbook lid so many times in such a short period of time.
On the iPhone, many times after a Face ID scan, you have to tap the side button twice to approve the purchase. How would that work on a MB? Would you have to tap a key on the keyboard twice, use Touch ID, or click another on-screen button? Wouldn't that be less convenient when using Touch ID on MacOS is good enough with no extra steps needed?
Trust me, if Apple implements Face ID on Mac, they're not going to make it so you can easily accidentally unlock your computer or make a purchase. That would make no sense. It's literally no different than on an iPhone or iPad. They've already transferred Touch ID to Mac, so it's no different. So I stand by my previous statements 100%
Then why Touch ID on Mac? They're both quick methods for unlocking a device or providing credentials for purchases, installs, etc. So if you're going to make this argument against Face ID, then you have to make it for Touch ID as well.
Probably would just be an additional on-screen click. But again, you could make the same argument for iPhone/iPad, yet Apple and consumers obviously think Face ID is a good option overall. Like I said, they both have their pros and cons in different tasks and depending on the user (e.g. do they have to wear gloves or hands not always clean/dry? Touch ID not so hot then. Have to wear a mask? Face ID not so hot then, etc.). Remember, people use Macs in all sorts of environments, just like iPhones and iPads. In terms of which security method is better, some people like me think it's a wash, and others like yourself think one wins out over the other. Oh well.
I think the dead horse has been beaten enough now, so I will bow out of this thread.
Touch ID already exists on MBs. My argument is redundancy. There's no actually reason why someone would need Face ID on a MB when Touch ID already exists. It sounds like some users want it just to have it.
Even though iOS devices never had both at the same time. There's still a better argument about which is more personally convenient than the other. On a MB, that's not the case. Nobody's wearing gloves or in the rain while using a MB, nobody has their MB cradled on the dash of a vehicle, and etc.
I got a 16” Pro 1TB for Christmas.
1. It is 3x faster in real use than my 2012 Unibody i7 2.6. This was confirmed by rendering the exact same ArchiCad view using CineRender of my recent project. 10.5 minutes on the Pro, 34 minutes on the UniBody.
2. What is the benefit of HDMI 2.1? I use HDMI for my 3k monitor and it works fine.
3. Whatever wifi it has, I get 225Mb Down connected to an Airport Extreme on the same desk. That is the max my cable modem can supply. Is wifi 6e faster than that?
4. I like touch ID. Makes me actively do something to confirm purchases and password entry rather than it just doing it passively. Seems like an extra layer of protection. And my MBP is off to the side as my second display, so turning to it to confirm and then back to the main screen to make sure it worked? No thanks. I dislike FaceID on the iPhone though. I try my wife’s and can’t stand it. I am stuck with an 8+ to avoid it. Hopefully there will be a big enough screen SE3 with touch ID.
5. I don’t use Bluetooth much with the Mac as it’s on my desk most of the time. I have a wired trackball and Apple Keyboard. What are the benefits of Bluetooth 5.1? Maybe I will use it more if it makes sense.
6. I chose the 16” over the 14” based on testing that showed the 16” fans never come on to a level you can hear while the 14” fans come on under heavy load. I can confirm this. Even with the 8 performance cores pegged at 100% and the efficiency cores at 75% rendering for 10 full minutes of rendering, the fans were so low I had to put my ear to the case to hear them. On my Unibody, just leaving homedepot.com open in the background causes the fans to turn into jet engines.
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I put the finger on the sensor same time as opening the lid on my mbp, ready in same speed and more secure
Your cable modem is the weakest link, but Wifi6 (not e) is a lot faster than 225Mb down. I get 600Mb+ down, so it's definitely capable of a lot faster if you had a faster internet connection.
Good to know. I don’t max out the 225 much, as even downloading large updates seems to be limited by the servers, not the modem. What is 600+ used for? I know I can pay more for 500 from Spectrum but why?
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Is it just me or has Apple refined its release plans to the point where we can almost predict what will be left out for next year's release? So Center Stage will be coming to next year's MacBooks (possibly with the refreshed Air) while USB-C will be coming to the iPhone ("Because our customers will love to transfer those huge PreRes Raw files more quickly").
Any large file transfers, HDR Video streaming, telephone, or just a lot of devices can saturate even that speed. I don't usually push it either, but it's nice to have if I need it.
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Good point though, the tech is all pretty much plateaued so there’s nothing extraordinary down the road in many respects and the standout features probably trickle down in the product lines over time.
A key point here. Your new Mac already has wifi 6. Which can transfer at *10gig*. 6e only adds another band at 6ghz which doesnt improve performance by itself but does avoid interference if you have a lot of devices on the 2.4 and 5ghz bands in your area. TLDR - the 'e' is irrelevant for most people, perhaps important for a few in highly congested areas.
Since I have a second Airport Extreme just for my home office sitting 6” from the MBP, I doubt I will have much interference. Ethernet connected to my trusty old CalDigit TB2 dock only gives me 100 which I guess means it’s not gigabit.
Probably not
I'd see what you're paying for and, if it's significant more than 225m, upgrade your cable modem. But honestly, super high download speeds are kind of a waste for most home uses since the limiting factor is usually somewhere else in the path between you and what you're accessing.
Yup, HDMI 2.1a is out. And weirdly, if you are HDMI 2.0 compliant, then automatically you are also HDMI 2.1 compliant. As far as the HDMI Licensing Administrator is concerned, anything HDMI 2.0 is now HDMI 2.1 and HDMI 2.0 no longer exists.
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There are going to be a lot of Amazon and eBay sellers roaring with laughter at that last one; time for celebration!
I am paying for 200. So I will take 225… lolProbably not
I'd see what you're paying for and, if it's significant more than 225m, upgrade your cable modem. But honestly, super high download speeds are kind of a waste for most home uses since the limiting factor is usually somewhere else in the path between you and what you're accessing.