Spanky Deluxe said:
So in true Apple standard protocol, add up the sum of the parts,
then add $1000 to it.
and we have MSRP $1629
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Feb 28th Products: Intel Mac mini and iPod Hi-Fi?
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So in true Apple standard protocol, add up the sum of the parts,
then add $1000 to it.
and we have MSRP $1629
Bah your prices are way OFF!Spanky Deluxe said:
HD for Apple since they buy in bulk will probably be around $40-$50
RAM For around $40-50
Remote $8
Remember Apple marks things way up
A mini logic board and chip will probably be around $150
Video Card $60-70
Apple's cost for a Mini is going to range more around $335 for cost of parts
If the mac mini is released on tuesday wouldn't it need to be a core duo? I thought the core solo was still a little while off. I'm hoping that the core duo 1.67GHz's that were meant for the macbook pros will go into the mac minis but I don't have high hopes. If apple releases a core duo mac mini then I will be one happy nerd and also a nerd thats in debt.
Macmaniac said:
Did you actually read the rest of my post? I said those initial prices were for pre existing stand alone products as in their final retail cost.
I went on to say that an X1600 would probably cost Apple about $40, the combo drive $25, the hard drive (160GB SATA) $60, the ram (DDR2 PC2-5300) $60 and the remote $5.
The cost of the Core Duo, Chipset and Airport all in one are not going to be $150ish. The cost from Intel for a bulk order of 1000 units is $306: http://www.intel.com/intel/finance/pricelist/ Apple will probably get a bit off of that but probably no more than $30-$40. Even Dell has to pay those kind of prices.
Fireburst said:
i'd think it would need one as a bare minimum to do any of the cool stuff we are speculating about. this is why i remain skeptical. the mini is supposed to be a budget-priced mac that "anyone" can afford. the hardware this thing would need to be recording, ripping, encoding streaming and burning all this media with any kind of convenience would place it damn near workstation class. hey maybe i'm wrong and this is the beginning of a new era for Apple and Mac users... Modern Hardware Across the Whole Line!!! wow, that would be weird.
BornAgainMac said:
(this is from a while back.... didnt bother to read the rest of the thread)
But... could it be possible that apple was using the TV shows on iTunes to test the waters for feature length HD film distribution. They've got all the technology in place now, just on a smaller scale.
Surrender TV shows to the DVR box and sell feature length films for $10 a pop or something.
Just my thoughts.
For a machine that costs$500 to manufacture, Apple will surely charge a lot more than $600. That's barely a 16.7% margin. Add in assembly, packaging, shipping, and distribution and even that 16.7% margin is gonna disappear in a hurry. For a $600 product, there is no way in hell that the processor is gonna take up $300. The G4, for all its limitations, served Apple well considering its low heat profile and low cost ($50-75). Face it folks, for an Intel Mini to exist (and I'm not 100% convinced that it will), we're talking Celeron Ms at best.Spanky Deluxe said:
It's quite possible that Apple will introduce a real media mac with all the bells and whistles people are hoping for. But a) it will be way bigger than the current Mini and b) it'll cost a lot more too.
For reference, check out Dell's low-end nokebook (not desktop) systems. In the $700 range, you'll be lucky to get a Celeron M 1.50 ghz, 64MB Radeon Mobility 9000 video card, 40GB HDD, 512MB RAM, and maybe a DVD burner. Take off $200 for the screen, keyboard, and battery and that's what you'll be getting in a Mini.
It NOT a Mac mini !!!
Its either something to scoop the "Origami Project" ...
http://www.origamiproject.com/1/
OR Apple will buy Disney !?!?!?!?!
Probably BOTH !!!
Its either something to scoop the "Origami Project" ...
http://www.origamiproject.com/1/
OR Apple will buy Disney !?!?!?!?!
Probably BOTH !!!
Wow! It seems like the Mac mini really is being released this upcoming Tuesday. The rumors seem really spot on, and plus I trust AppleInsider the most out of all the rumor sites. I would absolutely love a Mac mini in my room, but would also love the new iMac. Apple is such an expensive hobby!
Let's all get our hopes up in what this new product(s) can be, only to be disappointed when whatever Steven Jobs releases on 28 Feb is a reality.
The Apple Stack
Maybe you will be able to stack the ipod boombox under the new mini and integrate the two. Thats my dream anyway. It would be easier to swallow paying over a grand for a mostly entertainment center mac if you could buy the pieces over time. Or maybe this time they will go for more features and not compete on price. I think I am ready to buy one now no matter what it is like.
Maybe you will be able to stack the ipod boombox under the new mini and integrate the two. Thats my dream anyway. It would be easier to swallow paying over a grand for a mostly entertainment center mac if you could buy the pieces over time. Or maybe this time they will go for more features and not compete on price. I think I am ready to buy one now no matter what it is like.
Prediction: Content
Three studios down (Disney/ABC, Universal/NBC, Viacom/Paramount) four to go (Sony/Columbia Pictures, CBS, Warner Brothers, Fox). I think we'll get content from one of the four holdouts on Tuesday along with a few more titles from the three that already on board. Maybe a BIG catalog title like "Seinfeld" or "Friends."
Warner/HBO sounds about right. The new season of "The Sopranos" starts in a couple of weeks.
Rupert Murdoch has been talking smack about iTunes lately, so Fox is probably out at the moment.
If there's an iPod video involved in the announcement, I think we're going to see "The Incredibles" announced as the first feature film -- and probably an exclusive iTunes-only "Cars" preview.
Three studios down (Disney/ABC, Universal/NBC, Viacom/Paramount) four to go (Sony/Columbia Pictures, CBS, Warner Brothers, Fox). I think we'll get content from one of the four holdouts on Tuesday along with a few more titles from the three that already on board. Maybe a BIG catalog title like "Seinfeld" or "Friends."
Warner/HBO sounds about right. The new season of "The Sopranos" starts in a couple of weeks.
Rupert Murdoch has been talking smack about iTunes lately, so Fox is probably out at the moment.
If there's an iPod video involved in the announcement, I think we're going to see "The Incredibles" announced as the first feature film -- and probably an exclusive iTunes-only "Cars" preview.
with all of these inventions you guys come up with I swear...Apple engineers probably surf this site just to write down the things people come up with, only to patent it and then come out with it a couple years later.
I REALLY hope they come out with DVR-- that would be extra cool. I hope their boombox is designed to be like the boomboxes of the late 80's- all huge and whatnot.
I REALLY hope they come out with DVR-- that would be extra cool. I hope their boombox is designed to be like the boomboxes of the late 80's- all huge and whatnot.
technicolor said:Why in the world would a mini have a core duo?
Because maybe Apple wants all its computer to be dual-core? Because the price difference between Core Solo and Core Duo isn't enough to use the Core Solo?
What about two low-end models with a 1.67GHz Core Solo, and one high-end model with a 1.67GHz Core Duo?
TV Recording
1) Currently we dont have Hi Def TV coming in. There is a noticable quality difference in the different channels available. You can also tell the different cameras used on films or tv programmes.
2) The encoding is done by EyeTV, it allows the choice of numerous formats, see attached.
3) For example I have just recorded a 2 hr programme and the file is 3.18gb
Re file size, I have just done a test comparing H264 HDv720p and HDv 1080i and the respective file sizes for a 1 minute clip are H264 15.7mb Hd720p 184MB and Hd 1080i 466MB.
4) I am running a 1ghz 17"PB 1gb ram 100gb harddrive, (generation one 17" but faster and bigger hard drive)
The general quality of the recordings is usually very good, and looks great projected!!
Mechcozmo said:
1) Currently we dont have Hi Def TV coming in. There is a noticable quality difference in the different channels available. You can also tell the different cameras used on films or tv programmes.
2) The encoding is done by EyeTV, it allows the choice of numerous formats, see attached.
3) For example I have just recorded a 2 hr programme and the file is 3.18gb
Re file size, I have just done a test comparing H264 HDv720p and HDv 1080i and the respective file sizes for a 1 minute clip are H264 15.7mb Hd720p 184MB and Hd 1080i 466MB.
4) I am running a 1ghz 17"PB 1gb ram 100gb harddrive, (generation one 17" but faster and bigger hard drive)
The general quality of the recordings is usually very good, and looks great projected!!
Yvan256 said:
There is no such thing as "not enough price difference".
If Apple can shave a single cent from each unit, and get away with it, they'd probably save millions a year. Think about it. Why would they deliver more to you out of their own pockets? No way!
Lurch_Mojoff said:
But the point is, you can almost get a 500GB 3.5" drive for the price of that 7200RPM 2.5" SATA drive. If the new Mac mini is supposed to double as a PVR, you need storage room more than you need a small device.
Then again, the style of the Mac mini doesn't fit with other audio/video components... You'd need to cut the height in half and make it two or three times as wide (to look like a VHS or DVD unit).
Can't wait 'till tuesday...
Peace said:
I still think 1.99$US per episode is way too expensive.
However, if Apple had subscriptions to TV shows directly, I could drop my digital cable box (still catch the local news for free), lower my overall costs and get more shows that I like, and not miss any either (VHS tapes are such a hassle, I don't even bother recording shows anymore).
Paying for only the shows I want? Downloading them and watching them when I want? All for possibly less money, with no ads on top of that? Sign me up!
I apologize in advance
I'm sorry, I'm on a treo and it'll be a pain to browse through all the pages of the thread...is the ipod hifi an actual ipod or just an assessory? if the latter, wat would it look like? thanks
I'm sorry, I'm on a treo and it'll be a pain to browse through all the pages of the thread...is the ipod hifi an actual ipod or just an assessory? if the latter, wat would it look like? thanks
iPod Hi-Fi sounds perfect for the 70s. (I assume it's in a massive wooden floor cabinet.)
iPod Boombox sounds perfect for the 80s. (And I can think of nothing useful it could be, that a regular iPod docked INTO a speaker set wouldn't do better. But I probably haven't though of what Apple has come up with )
I'm glad Apple is reaching into the past for names--"Extreme" was really getting on my nerves! (If Apple ever uses the term "Advance" without the "d" I will shriek.)
For those that prefer the 20s, I look forward to the iTunes Talking Picture Store.
iPod Boombox sounds perfect for the 80s. (And I can think of nothing useful it could be, that a regular iPod docked INTO a speaker set wouldn't do better. But I probably haven't though of what Apple has come up with
)I'm glad Apple is reaching into the past for names--"Extreme" was really getting on my nerves! (If Apple ever uses the term "Advance" without the "d" I will shriek.)
For those that prefer the 20s, I look forward to the iTunes Talking Picture Store.
