Again, I don't use my phone on the same way as you and I have absolutely no issues. I do however have issues on the iPad 2 I have.
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Feeling the RAM crunch on iPhone 6/6 Plus devices
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Again, I don't use my phone on the same way as you and I have absolutely no issues. I do however have issues on the iPad 2 I have.
I think you're grossly overestimating how much power RAM uses. I'd be surprised if doubling the RAM made more than 30 minutes impact to the battery life.
Android phones hace had 3 gigs of ram and still manage to get a very good battery life namely by stuffing a bigger battery into the phone. Apple could've used at least 2200 mah battery by making the 6 a tad thicker instead of being obsessed with thinness.
Typically i have 350mb free ram in note4 but I can still open 7 to 8 tabs of heavy websites in Chrome without reloading. Probably more with Samsung browser.
And people are forgetting that part of that 1gb of iPhone RAM is taken by the OS and background services. In reality there might only be 500mb and less left for actual apps.
On note4 the free ram seems small considering the 3gb but most of the used ram is taken up by inactive apps which can be easily unloaded by the os to accommodate more active apps.
I think the RAM shortage is the single biggest flaw on what otherwise is state of the art device.
I can really see the difference in the extra gb when going from 1gb to 2gb on the iPad Air 2.
I get a lot of crashes on my 6 plus on websites that are really rich in content - especially when navigating from Flipboard. This really should not happen on a flagship device.
I can really see the difference in the extra gb when going from 1gb to 2gb on the iPad Air 2.
I get a lot of crashes on my 6 plus on websites that are really rich in content - especially when navigating from Flipboard. This really should not happen on a flagship device.
Maybe because millions have been sold and outside of a few little forum echo chambers literally no-one cares how much RAM they have?
Worthless comment. Millions can be sold to people who aren't expecting a premium device to have RAM issues.
I am not being a jerk. I honestly do not understand and would like your comments for helpful clarification.
These RAM issues do not affect me because i only ever have one tab open, unless I am looking for something else quickly that was prompted by what I was reading on the main page.
So, what I want to know is why do you guys have/need so many tabs open to begin with? What are you doing? Why can't you just surf through the one tab website to website like I and most people do? I really want to understand this...I am not trying to be a smart a**.
Again, I agree that there probably needs to be more RAM, and I understand that when you have multiple tabs open that the refreshing is unacceptable to you.
These RAM issues do not affect me because i only ever have one tab open, unless I am looking for something else quickly that was prompted by what I was reading on the main page.
So, what I want to know is why do you guys have/need so many tabs open to begin with? What are you doing? Why can't you just surf through the one tab website to website like I and most people do? I really want to understand this...I am not trying to be a smart a**.
Again, I agree that there probably needs to be more RAM, and I understand that when you have multiple tabs open that the refreshing is unacceptable to you.
Three years ago in iOS6, Apple permitted 8 tabs to be open in Safari. With iOS7 they increased this to approx 20 (I can't remember the exact number), and now in iOS8 the permitted number of open browser tabs is 36.
So if 36 is the number then we should be able to have 36 tabs open without encountering issues. Now of course practically nobody will ever have 36 browser tabs open, but in real world use anything up to 10-15 would be the norm. Obviously only people who actually use their expensive smartphone as a smartphone would need to have more than one tab open, those who just use it as a toy or who google the odd thing whilst out and about will never encounter any issues. We have moved on from doing quick web searches over WAP to full internet browsing on the fly. Apple's paltry 1GB of RAM and loose coding doesn't even permit more than four or five open browser tabs without reloading occurring. Their product doesn't do what it's intended to do! In fact the iPhone 6 reloads browser tabs and apps more acutely than the iPhone 5 did, and how shocking is that? One can actually have a better browsing experience on an iPhone that is two generations older.
Sample usage scenario:
You post on Macrumors via Safari on your ip6 that the Evil Phone Company has a great new smartphone out and has sold 1 trillion units over a 2-day launch span.
Mr. Troll replies to your thread and tells you to GTFO, no way, show me proof you Evil fanboy.
So you start your reply with a long, venomous rant about how Mr. Troll is a troll and should shut up forever. Then you proceed to go and provide the evidence he's looking for. So you pop over to Engadget on a new tab, surf to the article, and proceed to copy the exact text as proof.
Then you return to the forum tab in Safari to finish up your post, and bam. Your post is wiped out, because the iPhone memory management deemed your 1,000 word rant wasn't important enough to be kept in memory.
This is a kind of narrow example, but it is very annoying. here is a simpler one. Try opening Clash of Clans after letting the iPhone go to sleep. Da da da da it re-launches the app each and every time. Even if you hit the lock button, let it sit for half a second, then unlock the phone. Da da da da. Irritating. To be fair, though, this may be a choice of the developer to do this. But honestly it seems more a limitation of the phone than anything else.
That's to Apple's advantage and probably the main reason they've got away with 1GB this year. Heck, the iPhone 5 needed more RAM and to have this situation two years later is the worst problem facing iPhones bar none. The 6+ at the very least should have got 2GB. Apple may well sell several container ships full of 4.7" iPhones to the unaware masses, but surely they must have known that 'power users' and Android ship-jumpers would have been the main customers for the 6+??
Can only speak for clash of clans, I think that how the app is. I have a few phones that I alternate and I can tell you that every single phone relaunches it after a sleep unless you go back to it within say 30 seconds. My phones include note 4, xperia z3, iPhone 6. Xperia z3 is the best when it comes to memory management hands down. It has 3 gigs of ram and has much less bloat than note 4. I can go days without it reloading tabs or app like tapstalk etc.
The iPhone 5 is currently the most RAM-efficient iPhone because of the fact that it's 32-bit lol.
The 1gb RAM is clearly a cash grab in my opinion to increase margins. The 16GB base model is also an absolute joke.
Although currently with a jailbroken phone tweaked out, the only time a lack of RAM becomes obvious is when I pull NC down and see my widgets reload or in safari. Nothing deal breaking right now but this phone won't have a long shelf life for me.
I don't experience any of this UI lag though and we have 3 6+ in my household.
Although currently with a jailbroken phone tweaked out, the only time a lack of RAM becomes obvious is when I pull NC down and see my widgets reload or in safari. Nothing deal breaking right now but this phone won't have a long shelf life for me.
I don't experience any of this UI lag though and we have 3 6+ in my household.
wrong. 6 plus and 6 both have ever so tiny bit over 1 GB of RAM, the SoC has a dedicated 4 mb SRAM pool that is super fast
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it is just Clash of Clans needing a update, I play Vainglory which is the most graphically intense iOS game out right now, which has over 1.3 million polygons in action while you play, and i am able to back out the app, go back into the app during a live match and it resumes nearly instantenously, even if i turn my screen off i can come back to it very fast, and Vainglory is so much more computationally demanding then clash of clans. apps that have been updated to iOS 8 compatibility/ new iPhones actually run fantastic and superb and they ever rarely refresh and reload on me
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apple has a limit on how much a app can consume ram, todays app on a 1 app per basis when running, 500mb is more then plenty for one application that is running actively on your screen which is why iPhones have always been great performers(but obviously limits other things )
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that sucks it happens to you all the time....maybe you have a defective iPhone cause I am able to have a few tabs open easily with no refresh
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considering the Note 4 doesnt do any better with keeping apps open despite having 3x more RAM, i think the 6 plus and 6 are alright for now
Go into Safari and open up 5-7 tabs. Log into macrumors and type a message and switch to another tab. Goodbye long message that was written.
On a Note4, heck even a Note3, open up 5-7 browsers and type a message in macrumors. Go to another page and back to macrumors. Your message is still there.
We know how biased you are. But your bias is absurd and bordering delusional.
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I dont have 5-7 tabs open at a time, and what I said still stands correct and nothing I have said is actually incorrect, i understand your pro Android but plenty of videos online show the Note 4 and Nexus 6 reloading apps just as often as the 6 Plus and 6.(browser tabs stay open longer on Android. But app reloads are about the same )
My 2013 Nexus 7 on Android 5.0.1 reloads just as often it not more then my 6 Plus with apps, it holds a few tabs open more in the browser when I stay in it, but when i leave the Chrome Beta on my N7 2013 on Lollipop with 2GB of RAM, It reloads aswell.
Im biased for stating what is correct? Talk about insecurity lmao....whats your agenda? Me stating correct factually things doesnt make me bias in anyway