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I was comparing Siri with Fiats. Fiats are cars.

I wasn't passing judgement on Uconnect since I wasn't even discussing it.
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Fiat = Fix It All the Time

Truth is, Fiats are notoriously unreliable cars.

Consumer Reports Reliability Study: Toyota Thrives, Fiat Fails
https://www.cars.com/articles/consu...tudy-toyota-thrives-fiat-fails-1420682551916/
Fiat is dead last in reliability. Ram and Jeep round out the bottom three.

Toyota, GM Top J.D. Power Dependability Study; Fiat Chrysler Rounds Out Bottom
https://www.cars.com/articles/2015/...pendability-study-fiat-chrysler-still-trails/
Again, Fiat is the must unreliable brand.

Etc., etc...

As I said, too bad you don't live in UK! Sorry mate they obviously only send crappy Fiats to America ;)
 
I have a Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 2015 with the top unconnect Nav unit... there's been no updates since I got it almost 9 months ago. Would be nice if they supported my system with an update like this.
 
Siri without a doubt. I just installed it on my 2015 JGC and Siri is horribly slow. I attempted to send a text message and finally accomplished it on the 4th or 5th try. The first attempts I'd say "text so and so" after about 1 minute Siri would say "what would you like to say" I'd give my message, see it slowly copy to iPhone screen than nothing - it would just sit there. Than I would say text so and so and gave the message right away of what I wanted to say and again, watch it type out on the screen and just sit there - finally Siri would repeat the message and ask if I'd like to send and I said "send" and nothing, I finally hit the send button on the phone and Siri replied "it's on it's way" Hopefully this will pick up with speed in time. Really didn't test much else but at this point - u-connect kicks it's butt hands down! Just my experience so far and hoping for improvements. I'll be sticking with the u-connect at this point, never had any problems with it and it's much faster.

Update:

So I tried using Siri today as I was out driving around and it responded much better. The text response was understood the first time and it responded and sent it out fairly quickly, maybe Siri was just slow yesterday. I also made calendar appointments and a few other things and everything seemed to work fine. I will use Siri to respond to texts now.
 
Update:

So I tried using Siri today as I was out driving around and it responded much better. The text response was understood the first time and it responded and sent it out fairly quickly, maybe Siri was just slow yesterday. I also made calendar appointments and a few other things and everything seemed to work fine. I will use Siri to respond to texts now.


Is there any differences between eyes free and pressing the home button on your iPhone or saying Hey siri? I do that on occasion and siri's audio gets routed through the audio system and the mic in the car is activated.
 
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Fiat = Fix It All the Time

Truth is, Fiats are notoriously unreliable cars.
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Not true anymore. Most recent FIAT cars are just as reliable as other cars. There are no recent reports of chronic problems, which is not the case of some german manufacturers. At least in Europe.
 
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Installed on my 2015 Jeep Cherokee Limited took about 10 minutes and seems to work fine. Ask Siri some stuff sent some messages. Sending messages did seem a little slow but better than not being able to send them at all.
 
Is there any differences between eyes free and pressing the home button on your iPhone or saying Hey siri? I do that on occasion and siri's audio gets routed through the audio system and the mic in the car is activated.
Exactly the same thing and functionality.
 
weird have a 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee go to site enter VIN and doesn't show an available update.

Exact same thing with me on my 2015 Challenger. Did you ever get this?

Does anyone have the software link to share for those of us that the stupid website blocks out?

FWIW, here is the service bulletin for the update. Lots of other fixes as well.
 

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Must be all parts of america, here in mexico they are crap also. I see a lot more fiat dealers and cars here than the us.

You're entitled to think they are crap, that's your opinion, but reliability on the other hand is measurable and there's hard data available as I posted above.
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Fiat = Fix It All the Time

Truth is, Fiats are notoriously unreliable cars.

Consumer Reports Reliability Study: Toyota Thrives, Fiat Fails
https://www.cars.com/articles/consu...tudy-toyota-thrives-fiat-fails-1420682551916/
Fiat is dead last in reliability. Ram and Jeep round out the bottom three.

Toyota, GM Top J.D. Power Dependability Study; Fiat Chrysler Rounds Out Bottom
https://www.cars.com/articles/2015/...pendability-study-fiat-chrysler-still-trails/
Again, Fiat is the must unreliable brand.

Etc., etc...

You're just reiterating an old cliche (which, granted, used to be true decades ago) and citing a cars review site that sells manufacturer ads. Not exactly my definition of a reliable source.

On the other hand the link I posted is based on real insurance stats and clearly shows what I stated in my post, including percent of failures by type, model and brand on a sample of about 50k cars.

Stats that by the way corroborate my personal experience since I had exactly one failure in 12 years on my Fiat and it was on the steering wheel, listed as the most common fault in my specific model.
 
Took about 20 minutes for my Chrysler 200. It has 11 files to install. I didn't notice until later that as each file is installed it tells you what is being updated. For example Sierra Air Card and XM Radio. So I think it is a bit more than just the Apple stuff.

I did run into some problems. First the downloader wouldn't work under Safari on my Mac and had to download the zip file directly. Second, my USB was formatted for just a Mac (HFS+), but it requires a USB drive formatted for Windows. I just had to reformat the drive to Fat32.

Haven't played with it yet to see how it works.
 
You're entitled to think they are crap, that's your opinion, but reliability on the other hand is measurable and there's hard data available as I posted above.

You're entitled to think what YOU want, but your "Hard Data" is for europe and most of the cars sold in NA are 500 models and are made here in Toluca, Mx so I'm calling BS. You do not have a clue how dependable the cars made here and they are NOT dependable so stop acting like your "hard data" means anything here.

JD Power is the benchmark and pretty much what everyone goes by in NA and other parts of the world, these are from JD power ratings. Fiat and Chrysler both have dismal records here in North America whether you like it or not. This is hard data. JD Power Germany rated the fiat 500 as top in its category, again those are not made in the same place.

The reason I started with 2012 is because Fiat is not even on the scale before that. They were gone from the na market for years. The 2012 was probably the first model year made in toluca and their "comeback".

2012

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/20...dates-how-bad-are-the-fiat-500-and-vw-passat/

Fiat, one up from dead last.

2013

http://www.jdpower.com/press-releases/2013-jd-power-initial-quality-study

Fiat, one up from dead last again.

2014

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/07/02/fiat-explains-disastrous-jd-power-quality-score/

How Fiat explains its disastrous J.D. Power quality scores

J.D. Power's IQS looks at flaws among autos in the first 90 days that customers own their new vehicles. In 2014, Fiat wasn't only dead last, it was at the back of the pack by a significant margin.

http://www.jdpower.com/press-releases/2014-us-initial-quality-study-iqs

Fiat Dead Last.

2015

http://www.wsj.com/articles/fiat-chrysler-brands-get-poor-ratings-in-quality-study-1434560748

Fiat Chrysler Brands Get Poor Ratings in Quality
Study

Fiat Chrysler Automobiles NV brands were ranked at the bottom of an influential quality survey released Wednesday, the latest sign that the Italian-U.S. auto maker is struggling to keep up with mainstream rivals at home and abroad.

2016 They did get better this year, but that does not erase years of crap and one year does not a comeback make. The fact is that even with them getting better there are still 26 brands better and only 6 worse with Dodge being dead last now.

http://www.jdpower.com/press-releases/2016-us-vehicle-dependability-study-vds

I believe the cars here in mexico are made in the same places as all sold in north america since Nafta.

You can claim they are better in europe, which I really don't know or care, but here they have been dismal. I used to work as a mechanic and fiat has always had a bad rep.

Will they get better? Maybe, but it's clear they have had dismal ratings and with reason.

Not true anymore. Most recent FIAT cars are just as reliable as other cars. There are no recent reports of chronic problems, which is not the case of some german manufacturers. At least in Europe.

I'm happy for europe, but that has nothing with the cars they are selling here.


JD power in europe:


http://www.fiat500usa.com/2011/06/fiat-500-number-one-in-jd-power.html

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The Fiat 500 has taken the top honors in Germany's J.D. Power and Associates survey of customer satisfaction. The 500 earned a score of 81.8% in the "A Segment" category placing it first in a class that has been traditionally led by German and Japanese models. "

CLEARLY not the same car as being sold here as the Fiat 500 sold in NA is made here in Toluca, Mexico which happens to be where i live. Most of the fiat cars sold in na are the several 500 models.

There's no reason to be butthurt because the ones made here are junk.

You're just reiterating an old cliche (which, granted, used to be true decades ago) and citing a cars review site that sells manufacturer ads. Not exactly my definition of a reliable source.

On the other hand the link I posted is based on real insurance stats and clearly shows what I stated in my post, including percent of failures by type, model and brand on a sample of about 50k cars.

Stats that by the way corroborate my personal experience since I had exactly one failure in 12 years on my Fiat and it was on the steering wheel, listed as the most common fault in my specific model.

Enough already, your link means nothing as they are made in different places. This is getting silly.





 
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This is getting silly.

Agreed. Didn't mean to ruffle your feathers, just to provide my (eurocentric) point of view and info.

I've taken note not to buy Fiats in America -- mechanics will start heated debates and will probably arrange your car to blow just to prove their point! :p
 
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Not true anymore. Most recent FIAT cars are just as reliable as other cars. There are no recent reports of chronic problems, which is not the case of some german manufacturers. At least in Europe.
Agreed. Didn't mean to ruffle your feathers, just to provide my (eurocentric) point of view and info.

I've taken note not to buy Fiats in America -- mechanics will start heated debates and will probably arrange your car to blow just to prove their point! :p

No, just that fiat is different here and calling them bad is not a meme. They are very bad. Since they are bad in their comeback it will take some getting past that even if they moved to the top. Especially to those of us that remember the old days also (I'm over 60).

I do suggest not to buy them here, bring a Euro model with you.:)
 
My wife drives a 2015 200. Apparently her's has the UC 5.0, which had an update, from 2015-06-10. Did the update, reset all the radio stations and bluetooth connections, but then realized no Siri...
 
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I love this update (2015 JGC Limited), so far used Siri to check my calendar, sent a text message and have
Siri read the response to the text message. Speed was good. Previously without Siri on the Connect system, the
iPhone could not doing any texting or messaging. Great update
 
You're entitled to think they are crap, that's your opinion, but reliability on the other hand is measurable and there's hard data available as I posted above.
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You're just reiterating an old cliche (which, granted, used to be true decades ago) and citing a cars review site that sells manufacturer ads. Not exactly my definition of a reliable source.

On the other hand the link I posted is based on real insurance stats and clearly shows what I stated in my post, including percent of failures by type, model and brand on a sample of about 50k cars.

Stats that by the way corroborate my personal experience since I had exactly one failure in 12 years on my Fiat and it was on the steering wheel, listed as the most common fault in my specific model.

LOL...you couldn't be any more wrong. Consumer Reports doesn't even sell ads. Do some research so next time you won't humiliate yourself for a fifth time.

And your personal experience is a sample size of exactly 1. One. It clearly shows how little you understand statistics. That's like saying, "An airbag has never saved my life so airbags are completely ineffective in saving lives."

You did give me a good laugh, though.
 
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LOL...you couldn't be any more wrong. Consumer Reports doesn't even sell ads. Do some research so next time you won't humiliate yourself for a fifth time.

And your personal experience is a sample size of exactly 1. One. It clearly shows how little you understand statistics. That's like saying, "An airbag has never saved my life so airbags are completely ineffective in saving lives."

You did give me a good laugh, though.

No time to properly answer to a LOLer, I'll just recap:
  1. You implied Fiats are globally unreliable
  2. I provided bare data showing Fiat reliability in Europe
  3. Your statement isn't obviously true
 
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