Fiat Chrysler Adds Siri Eyes Free to Equipped 2013-2015 Vehicles

[JCrz]

No time to properly answer to a LOLer, I'll just recap:

1. You implied Fiats are globally unreliable
2. I provided bare data showing Fiat reliability in Europe
3. Your statement isn't obviously true

1. Yes, and I'm correct.
2. The site you quoted is some unknown site run from a guy's basement. I quoted JD Power & Associates and Consumer Reports.
3. I'm correct again. Read this: http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/about-us/no-commercial-use-policy/index.htm. Next time you attack a media outlet for being biased from ad coverage, maybe you should do a tiny bit of research.

 

[fcap]

1. Yes, and I'm correct.
2. The site you quoted is some unknown site run from a guy's basement. I quoted JD Power & Associates and Consumer Reports.
3. I'm correct again. Read this: http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/about-us/no-commercial-use-policy/index.htm. Next time you attack a media outlet for being biased from ad coverage, maybe you should do a tiny bit of research.

1. No, you're correct only about american Fiats and since Fiat's biggest market is still Europe, you simply cannot claim that.
2. http://www.reliabilityindex.com is fed with data from hundreds of thousands of actual car repairs in UK collected by https://www.warrantydirect.co.uk - you haven't even opened my link, have you?
3. You linked to editorials in cars.com which link to consumer reports in the context of ads-supported articles which are all people actually read. Had you linked directly to bare data as I did, I wouldn't have complained.

I think it's fair to say we've learnt american Fiats seem radically different to european Fiats as far as reliability goes. Though it's surprising to both of us, this fact is supported by the evidence we both provided.

 

[JCrz]

1. No, you're correct only about american Fiats and since Fiat's biggest market is still Europe, you simply cannot claim that.
2. http://www.reliabilityindex.com is fed with data from hundreds of thousands of actual car repairs in UK collected by https://www.warrantydirect.co.uk - you haven't even opened my link, have you?
3. You linked to editorials in cars.com which link to consumer reports in the context of ads-supported articles which are all people actually read. Had you linked directly to bare data as I did, I wouldn't have complained.

I think it's fair to say we've learnt american Fiats seem radically different to european Fiats as far as reliability goes. Though it's surprising to both of us, this fact is supported by the evidence we both provided.

I did read your link and I got a big chuckle when I found out that it's run by a company that actively sells extended warranties to rip off consumers. You couldn't have possibly found a more biased source of "data".

Who cares if cars.com sent you to data from Consumer Reports? The information is exactly the same from what CR reported. You clearly were wrong from the start; the data is not biased—it's pulled from Consumer Reports. Who cares if cars.com put ads around it? The data is still the same—Fiat ranked dead-last in reliability in the world's biggest market. The "bare data" was right there in front of your eyes but you knew you were wrong so you tried to BS your way out of it.

 

[TT D'arby]

1. No, you're correct only about american Fiats and since Fiat's biggest market is still Europe, you simply cannot claim that.
2. http://www.reliabilityindex.com is fed with data from hundreds of thousands of actual car repairs in UK collected by https://www.warrantydirect.co.uk - you haven't even opened my link, have you?
3. You linked to editorials in cars.com which link to consumer reports in the context of ads-supported articles which are all people actually read. Had you linked directly to bare data as I did, I wouldn't have complained.

I think it's fair to say we've learnt american Fiats seem radically different to european Fiats as far as reliability goes. Though it's surprising to both of us, this fact is supported by the evidence we both provided.

yeah right......Fiat saves there 'reliable' cars for Europe only and gives the US the ones that fall apart......makes perfect sense........NOT

most people on this site live in america where Fiat is the WORST - looks, reliability, performance are all bad

my neighbor bought a brand new Fiat 500 last year......literally in teh shop more then on the road

 

[fcap]

I did read your link and I got a big chuckle when I found out that it's run by a company that actively sells extended warranties to rip off consumers. You couldn't have possibly found a more biased source of "data".

Who cares if cars.com sent you to data from Consumer Reports? The information is exactly the same from what CR reported. You clearly were wrong from the start; the data is not biased—it's pulled from Consumer Reports. Who cares if cars.com put ads around it? The data is still the same—Fiat ranked dead-last in reliability in the world's biggest market. The "bare data" was right there in front of your eyes but you knew you were wrong so you tried to BS your way out of it.

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yeah right......Fiat saves there 'reliable' cars for Europe only and gives the US the ones that fall apart......makes perfect sense........NOT

most people on this site live in america where Fiat is the WORST - looks, reliability, performance are all bad

my neighbor bought a brand new Fiat 500 last year......literally in teh shop more then on the road

Ufff... most people buying Fiats live in Europe, so? You guys always think "american" means "global". As I said this conclusion is surprising, but hey, I don't actually care how american Fiats perform, you know?

They are manufactured there, not sent there.

You guys have too much time in your hands. I'll move on and thanks for all the fish.

 

[JCrz]

"LOL"
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Ufff... most people buying Fiats live in Europe, so? You guys always think "american" means "global". As I said this conclusion is surprising, but hey, I don't actually care how american Fiats perform, you know?

They are manufactured there, not sent there.

You guys have too much time in your hands. I'll move on and thanks for all the fish.

So far all you've done is provide a link to a business that sells extended car warranties in the UK and then twice try to say that Consumer Reports isn't reputable because of ads (which it clearly doesn't do).

And then you came back here getting giving more false information. Fiats aren't made in America—they're made in Toluca which is in a country called "Mexico".

You're like one of those clown blow-up punching bags that keeps coming back for more.

Persistence is good only when you know what you're talking about.

 

[fcap]

So far all you've done is provide a link to a business that sells extended car warranties in the UK and then twice try to say that Consumer Reports isn't reputable because of ads (which it clearly doesn't do).

And then you came back here getting giving more false information. Fiats aren't made in America—they're made in Toluca which is in a country called "Mexico".

You're like one of those clown blow-up punching bags that keeps coming back for more.

Persistence is good only when you know what you're talking about.

Silly me, I though Mexico was in America just as the US are. You're too smart for me, mate!

 

[macdragonfl]

I really thought this was a thread for FCA customers learning about and helping each other on a software update, but its turned into a snarky criticism of someones choice in the car they drive. I've had a lot of rides. Japanense, German and American. I've had good and bad in all. I've had CR recommended car that had an engine failure at 54,000 miles. I've also had another that they didn't I drove it for 120,000 with a sixty dollar repair and maintenance in ten years of ownership. A lot of it has to deal with the dealer and their ability to service and repair a car. CR has not recommend iPhone's before in different generations they all have been great for me. Snarky stuff belongs at BGR!

 

[JCrz]

I really thought this was a thread for FCA customers learning about and helping each other on a software update, but its turned into a snarky criticism of someones choice in the car they drive. I've had a lot of rides. Japanense, German and American. I've had good and bad in all. I've had CR recommended car that had an engine failure at 54,000 miles. I've also had another that they didn't I drove it for 120,000 with a sixty dollar repair and maintenance in ten years of ownership. A lot of it has to deal with the dealer and their ability to service and repair a car. CR has not recommend iPhone's before in different generations they all have been great for me. Snarky stuff belongs at BGR!

Your sample size of one means exactly that: 1 out of millions. Statistics, while not 100% correct with every single case, are important because they show the probability of something happening.

Statistically, you're less likely to die in a crash if you wear a seatbelt. If you've never worn a seatbelt before and you're alive then it doesn't mean seatbelts are useless. Same goes with smoke detectors, etc.

It's about being smart and making smart decisions based on past information. If I know that I'm statistically more likely to get mugged in a dark ghetto alley late at night then I'll avoid those areas. I'm not going to say, "Well, Johnny said he did it one time and survived so screw all the data collection and reports!"

CR's recommendation for iPhones wasn't based on hard data. A "recommendation" is not statistics! You went totally off the track there.

 

[TT D'arby]

Silly me, I though Mexico was in America just as the US are. You're too smart for me, mate!

1 nope
2 we all are

 

[fcap]

1 nope
2 we all are

Indeed.

 

[Sean7512]

Ok, lets get this thread back on track...stop the nonsense.

Applied the update to my 2015 Dodge Challenger, but it doesn't appear to work so well.

After invoking Siri and asking her a question, it just hangs there...still listening. It doesn't appear to know when the question is done and it just hangs there. After an extremely long wait, it will eventually go off and do the requested action.

Has anyone else had a similar experience?

 

[crawdad62]

Ok, lets get this thread back on track...stop the nonsense.

Applied the update to my 2015 Dodge Challenger, but it doesn't appear to work so well.

After invoking Siri and asking her a question, it just hangs there...still listening. It doesn't appear to know when the question is done and it just hangs there. After an extremely long wait, it will eventually go off and do the requested action.

Has anyone else had a similar experience?

I updated my 2015 Ram 1500 and the first few times I tried to invoke Siri I got the Siri screen to pop up on the display but nothing. Did it a few times and thought maybe it was because my phone was in my pocket (even though it's using UConnect mic). I tried it later down the road and it worked and has worked since.

 

[macdragonfl]

Yes

I updated my 2015 Ram 1500 and the first few times I tried to invoke Siri I got the Siri screen to pop up on the display but nothing. Did it a few times and thought maybe it was because my phone was in my pocket (even though it's using UConnect mic). I tried it later down the road and it worked and has worked since.

It does that in certain areas one being my driveway, when i'm driving around it's fine. I think they need to update the uconnect app. Apparently the uconnect system uses a 3g connection and a cloud server for the messaging system. I think maybe its getting confused and or just weak in some areas. 2014 Cherokee Limited here.

 

[ffmed124]

Is there any differences between eyes free and pressing the home button on your iPhone or saying Hey siri? I do that on occasion and siri's audio gets routed through the audio system and the mic in the car is activated.

No there really isn't any difference that I noticed, everything does go through the audio system