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i feel like the edu website probably got a lot of abuse. people picking their old schools and getting cheap software. heck, i'm not going to lie, i'd do it. but now there really isn't that much of an incentive.

i remember when they changed the edu pricing for Leopard and Logic, which is similar to what we see here. someone said that they still offered the cheap pricing at campus stores. if that's true, i think this might be the better way to go. online, with no real way to verify if you actually qualify, offer a slightly reduced price, but in campus stores or maybe even apple stores where you can check school IDs and stuff, maintain the kind of pricing that students can actually afford. it would be easy for people who actually are students to find the reduced price, but slightly more difficult for others (enrolling in a class, acquiring a valid school ID, etc., to much hassle if you're just trying to get the student price).

on a side note, the reduced pricing for the regular version really isn't that impressive considering soundtrack is gone. logic's price reduction was huge, considering what you got. this, not so much. the possibility of using GarageBand as a replacement might not be such a bad idea, provided there is some noise reduction capabilities somewhere in there, in either FCX or GB.


you can still get a good discount...
go to an apple store, find the nerdiest mac-specialist, and take one for the team:cool:, you will not only get discounts, but goodies once in a while.. after be like.. i need more then just a mac in my life.. and walk out.. :rolleyes:

jk. :)
 
Actually I think I am going to see if I can get a copy of 3.5 w/ Soundtrack for $100 and then upgrade to 4.0 for another $99.
 
17 days ago I purchased a new iMac with FCE 3.5 from the online store. It was not delivered until last Tuesday. I am not writing to complain about the decrease in purchase price because I realize that them's the breaks with technology. However, is there any way that I can get a free upgrade to 4.0?


I just wanted to update everyone on my above post. I contacted Apple and spoke to a very nice CSR. She agreed to send me FCE 4.0 without an upgrade charge. Anyone in a similar circumstance should consider doing the same.
 
what are some advantages with using fce over imovie 06 ? i've only been using a mac for a few months now and have gotten pretty used to using i movie 06. i like imovie 08 for editing but it just does not have as many features as i like it to have. for only $200 it seems really tempting, i'm just not sure what it would add for me.

another thing for me is to be able to add a new track to a movie and be able to choose which track to listen to when played on a dvd player. i know imovie does not do this. does fce do this ?
 
So I assume since FCE 4 now has a open timeline........does it finally support 24p???!!

Nope, but if you're shooting with "consumer" 24p (3:2 cadence), keep your '24p in 60i" footage and use JES Deinterlacer to remove the pulldown from your final project. Granted, you don't get to edit in a 24fps timeline, but for $200 + free to be able to output to 24p ain't too shabby.
 
Apple claims that this is such a huge update but all they did was take away Soundtrack functionality, add a multiformat timeline, & add AVCHD importing.

those are bullet points - not software changing features.

no thanks on this update.
 
The Institutional price for Final Cut Express 4.0 is only $99.

So, if you really are a student, go to you campus bookstore and buy it for $99 when they get it.
 
UK Store

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:rolleyes:
 
The item you have selected is currently not available from the Apple Store.

Please note that Apple cannot guarantee availability of any product.

:rolleyes:

Macworld UK reported last night that FCE4 will be £129. Sounds good to me. I had my credit card out ready when I read that only to discover that the new software wasn't on the Apple UK store yet :(

This morning, Final Cut Express HD 3.5 has disappeared from the UK store but still no sign of the new version. I guess we'll just have to be patient and wait until the UK staff have downed their first cup of coffee of the day... :p
 
I just phoned Apple and they advised me that FCE4 won't be available on the UK store until next Tuesday (20 Nov) and will then have a 3-4 day delay before shipping. Looks like we've got to hang on a bit on this side of the pond but at least it's not too long to wait. :rolleyes:
 
I just phoned Apple and they advised me that FCE4 won't be available on the UK store until next Tuesday (20 Nov) and will then have a 3-4 day delay before shipping. Looks like we've got to hang on a bit on this side of the pond but at least it's not too long to wait. :rolleyes:

glad to hear it and thanks for the info :)
 
Well I would definitely upgrade IF it offered 24p editing. But since not, I'll stick with 3.5 and booting into bootcamp with Vegas for 24p stuff. :rolleyes:
 
How does the upgrade work?

I have an old copy of FCE 1.0 or 2.0 and I'm pretty certain I can find the discs. It was loaded but unused on my old iMac - later deleted for drive space. I think I opened it once.

Do I have to load it on my MBP before installing the upgrade or can you just enter an original serial number or something like that?

Thanks.
 
Regarding the educational prices: Check your damn University contract. They vary and this gives Apple more focus to retail.

If your store offers a greater discount or wants to than Apple can, Apple is no longer making that impossible. They leave it up to the institutions.

Regarding Consumer prices being lowered: this is about damn time. Lots of folks just take a stupid night course to get student discounts. The price drops for regular consumer reduce those incentives without the limitations of the EDU licensing.

Also: If you are whining about this peon price changes then take a few weeks to not partying on campus.

I spent plenty of money in my undergrad times wasted to know I could manage to sacrifice some down time and still get software or hardware. Then again OS X didn't exist back then and I was using NeXTSTEP which was $299 EDU instead of $799 retail.

Cost of products has gone down and the power in them has gone up tremendously.

I don't sympathize with today's students bitching about being hosed.
 
Also: If you are whining about this peon price changes then take a few weeks to not partying on campus.

thanks for your ignorant stereotyping.

I don't sympathize with today's students bitching about being hosed.

I bet if you were still a student you would. :rolleyes:

Anyways, buying education for $20 less is completely stupid. Buy the retail version so you can upgrade for $99 next time. Otherwise you'll be paying another $180 to upgrade.
 
What I really want to know is does this new version allow you to gradually increase the speed the video is going at, like in FCP.

FCE 3.5 will do this just fine. It has the "timeline" for effects that you're thinking of from Final Cut.
 
Though apple has one edu price online, at my college computer store the prices are significantly lower than apple edu prices. For instance, I bought leopard for $35

Same here. When I got 3.5, the EDU discount price online was $150, but when I went to my school's bookstore on campus, I got the full version for only $99!

but now that I'm no longer a student anymore, the EDU price wont matter to me anymore =(
 
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