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Final Cut Express HD Released As A Universal Binary

You're Joking Right?

ChrisA said:
Yes, this is simply the new version of FCE which also happens to be universal.

Two things have kept me from buying an Intel Mac: FCP and Photoshop. Now I only have one reason to wait. When Adobe come out with a universal PS then it's time. Maybe be then Apple will have the Intel Power Macs shipping?
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This is a joke post right? Intel Mac Pro Core 2 Duo and Quads ship in July or August 7th at the latest - WWDC SteveNote. CS3 won't ship 'til next Spring. Under Rosetta on a Mac Pro Quad, CS and CS2 will probably run ok for light work. :)

I agree Full-time Photoshop Pros will have to stay with PPC until CS3 ships next Spring.
 
Keyframes a BIG feature!

Keyframe Capability is well worth the money!

I use Final Cut Express at home, and Pro at work. So far, the only major differences that affect me are timeshifting, and keyframing of effects. The latter being the real clincher. So, I will upgrade for sure. The ability to control every effect by keyframe over time will save me so much work, and enable work that couldn't be done in FCE before - period.

If that Dynamic RT rendering (think that's what its called) really does away with rendering for previews, that will be amazing too.

For me, the "Universal" is the least interesting of the update, so yes, this is a new version, and yes, well worth the $99 upgrade.
 
everyone puts the heat on the 950 chipset. it's a huge leap better than their older ones, and its a pretty competitive chipset for normal machines (i.e. not high-end workstations). it is very responsive, and it can even play 1080p video. i don't understand why everyone is so upset about it being in the macbook and mac mini.
 
whenpaulsparks said:
everyone puts the heat on the 950 chipset. it's a huge leap better than their older ones, and its a pretty competitive chipset for normal machines (i.e. not high-end workstations). it is very responsive, and it can even play 1080p video. i don't understand why everyone is so upset about it being in the macbook and mac mini.
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Because suddenly its really important that low-end Macs be able to play Doom 3 at 100FPS for some reason.
 
Viewtiful Rich said:
I've been seriously thinking about picking FCE this weekend, but was kind of worried about a new version coming relatively soon.... this would seem to put that out of the question, would many agree?
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Doubful.

They just released a new version today, and historically these apps are on annual release cycles.
 
whenpaulsparks said:
everyone puts the heat on the 950 chipset. it's a huge leap better than their older ones, and its a pretty competitive chipset for normal machines (i.e. not high-end workstations). it is very responsive, and it can even play 1080p video. i don't understand why everyone is so upset about it being in the macbook and mac mini.
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i whole-heartedly agree with you. i mean, a dedicated card will perform better, if it's a NEW card, but the cards that were in the iBook and MacMini weren't very good at all and the 950 is way better.
 
red_wedge said:
Funny you would say that 99 is fair - wasn't the upgrade for FCPro only 50? Seems a bit unfair to me...
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That was a cross grade since it wasn't really a new version but the old version being updated as UB. this is a new version with new features AND a UB. I think the pricing makes sense.
 
Multimedia said:
This is a joke post right? Intel Mac Pro Core 2 Duo and Quads ship in July or August 7th at the latest - WWDC SteveNote. CS3 won't ship 'til next Spring. Under Rosetta on a Mac Pro Quad, CS and CS2 will run plenty fast. :)
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There is absolutely no way you can make that claim.

Remember, the CS suite has low level chip optimizations which suck in emulations. Adobe has worked with Intel and the PowerPC group, respectively, for the past 15 years to get low-level hardware optimizations.

While your comment is directionally correct, that faster chips will run emulated applications faster, it doesn't mean it's going to be usable for most folks.

And if the original poster had pro-level needs, he is dead right to wait until the native versions come out. Core 2 Duo or not, the emulated speed is not going to be acceptable to people who make their living on these tools, have enormous professional-quality files, and time is money.
 
BWhaler said:
And if the original poster had pro-level needs, he is dead right to wait until the native versions come out. Core 2 Duo or not, the emulated speed is not going to be acceptable to people who make their living on these tools, have enormous professional-quality files, and time is money.
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Well, people used those Creative apps using 500 Mhz G3s and G4s a few years ago. I am sure the emulated speed of the Mini would beat those machines. I bet some pros are still using OS 9 on some old Mac hardware.
 
baleensavage said:
http://www.apple.com/au/finalcut/
Here's a point by point comparison of the 3 video editing apps.
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Thanks, I have been looking for this on the Norway site, but didn´t find it.
I was going to buy FCE, but it still dosen´t support Panasonics recording formats. Shame, I can´t justify the price of FCP for the little editing I need to do
 
In the comparison chart, I see that Final Cut Pro is the only one listed as being able to do 24p. Does anyone know if they mean true 24p (i.e. film on shot with a VariCam) or are they throwing 29.97 stuff with pulldown removal to get 23.98 into that 24p category as well. Can one choose a 23.98 based timeline in Final Cut Express or only 29.97?

Thanks.
 
Kingsly said:
So what about people like me, who bought the FCE update recently, and now must pay $99 ALL OVER AGAIN to crossgrade?
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Since the Final Cut Pro crossgrades were announced (in January) it was known that the Universal version of FCE would be the next Feature Release and therefore would be a normal paid upgrade. Apple posted this on their final cut express page:

"The next feature release of Final Cut Express will be a Universal application, which will run on both PowerPC- and Intel-based Mac computers."

The Uk page still has not been updated so you can see it there for yourself.

You failed to do any basic research into your purchase so, as far as I am concerned, tough luck. It's not even like the FCE release cycle is difficult to predict!
 
dvonbieker said:
Keyframe Capability is well worth the money!

I use Final Cut Express at home, and Pro at work. So far, the only major differences that affect me are timeshifting, and keyframing of effects. The latter being the real clincher. So, I will upgrade for sure. The ability to control every effect by keyframe over time will save me so much work, and enable work that couldn't be done in FCE before - period.
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I think that it is really great news. The German Store is not updated yet. Just waiting until they update it. Just in case. I would expect if I order right now I would get the new version as well. Anyway - better wait.

What does "keyframe" mean. I don't understand what it could be good for.

Cheers
LaForge
 
off-topic

I'll buy a MacBook sonn and this will be my first Mac, so I have a simple question:

Can I understand iMovie HD as some kind of a consumer-Final Cut? Can I use it to cut my videos and put some effects on them? Thanks for an answer
 
Arne said:
Can I understand iMovie HD as some kind of a consumer-Final Cut? Can I use it to cut my videos and put some effects on them?
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That is a general true statement. iMovie is a basic video editing tool and does come with some effects. Effects packs from third parties are also available.

The Final Cut tools are for people who want or require finer control and extra professional tools.
 
Eidorian said:
So if the video requirements are still just Quartz Extreme will it run on the GMA950 powered Macs?
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I've seen mentioned elsewhere that the latest FCP HD is capable of running decently on Mac Mini Intel boxes. Motion on the other hand seems to perform just to slowly to be useable.
 
Arne said:
I'll buy a MacBook sonn and this will be my first Mac, so I have a simple question:

Can I understand iMovie HD as some kind of a consumer-Final Cut? Can I use it to cut my videos and put some effects on them? Thanks for an answer
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Yes.
 
Come on Macromedia, waiting for the Studio suite to go universal before I can buy an Intel Mac.........
 
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