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FCE HD 3.5 Universal Is A New Version - Not An Update - You Must Pay $99

bloogersnigen said:
I have FCE 3. Do I have to pay 100 bucks for the upgrade? is the the only difference between 3 and 3.5 UB? will it be in Software Update in a few days?
Ben
Yes you have to pay $99 and it's not an update. It's a NEW VERSION 3.5 as well as Universal with NEW FEATURES. If you read through the posts here you will see discussion of the new features in numerous posts.
 
Multimedia said:
This is a joke post right? Intel Mac Pro Core 2 Duo and Quads ship in July or August 7th at the latest - WWDC SteveNote. CS3 won't ship 'til next Spring. Under Rosetta on a Mac Pro Quad, CS and CS2 will probably run ok for light work. :)

I agree Full-time Photoshop Pros will have to stay with PPC until CS3 ships next Spring.

No, joke intened but it did come out that way.

The addition of key frames to FCE makes it much more valuable to me so I may not wait for CS3. I may buy FPE and run it on my G4 until I upgrade

Nikon is going to release "NX" soon and I may not want Photoshop. "NX" competes with Aperture, Lightroom and to some extent Photoshop because NX has selection tools. NX will only handle Nikon raw images but if you shoot Nikon NX may be the way to go/ Seems like it will do eveything a photographer needs
 
Arne said:
I'll buy a MacBook sonn and this will be my first Mac, so I have a simple question:

Can I understand iMovie HD as some kind of a consumer-Final Cut? Can I use it to cut my videos and put some effects on them? Thanks for an answer

Yes. IMove allows you to do basic editing. You can use it to chop your footage up to little bits and then add those bits to a timeline and put transitions between the bits. It is all most people will ever need and is much easier to learn then FCE or FCP.

IMove technically is NOT a scaled down FCE. It has a completely different user interface and a different "look" but it terms of feature sets, yes it's scaled down

Your best plan might be to use iMove (It's 'free" with new Macs) and then if you can't do something that you want with iMove then upgrade to FCE. Fce will read iMove projects so you don't loose to much work
 
Does FCE, or even imovie, take the input from the video cameras that record onto dvd's?
 
Optical Mini-DVDs Record MPEG2 Direct - Not Directly To iMovie Nor Final Cuts But...

davidwes said:
Does FCE, or even imovie, take the input from the video cameras that record onto dvd's?
Not directly. Those cameras record a rather soft flavor of MPEG2 and that presents editing challenges. You already have that kind?

If so, there is a workaround. You output analog and run it through an analog to DV transcoder that is a separate $200-$300 product. Or if you have a DV camera that has analog to DV pass through, that is your transcoder. EyeTV 200 analog TV tuner is also an analog to DV transcoder.

If not, you would be better off with any DV or HDV camera as they record much higher res pictures. HDV is a flavor of MPEG2 that iMovie and Final Cut Express and Pro do support. FCPro supports Native HDV while iMovie and FCE support a transcoded version of HDV that yields a little lower quality result after editing - technically lower, not visibly lower.

I might be mistaken. But I'm pretty sure Apple doesn't offer that consumer optical recording flavor of MPEG2 editing capability yet. Can anyone confirm or correct me?
 
I ordered my upgrade yesterday (the 18th) and received an email saying it would be delivered to my house today (the 19th). Pretty nice considering free delivery and such. I'm in Washington DC btw.
 
Multimedia said:
I might be mistaken. But I'm pretty sure Apple doesn't offer that consumer optical recording flavor of MPEG2 editing capability yet. Can anyone confirm or correct me?
You're correct that Apple video editing apps don't support DVD camcorders.

However, there is a much better workaround than the process you described.

1. Make sure to not use the proprietary Sony recording format option (the one that allows in camera edits). Use the standard one.

2. Place the miniDVD in a tray-loading optical drive. If you have a slot-loading drive, well go out and get a tray-loading external.

3. Drag and drop the files from the miniDVD and into your machine.

4. Use MPEG Streamclip to transcode the files to DV streams. http://www.squared5.com/

5. Import those files into your video editing application (such as iMovie, FCE or FCP.)

If you don't plan to edit anything, just demux the miniDVD files to m2v and AIFF or AC3 and put it all together in DVD Studio Pro.

If you used the proprietary recording format, then you're stuck with the digital to analog to digital method.
 
I bought FCE 2

Never used it.

I just bought the upgrade.

I am an idiot.

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(Maybe it is time to learn the program)
 
Streamclip MPEG2 to DV Transcode

Rod Rod said:
You're correct that Apple video editing apps don't support DVD camcorders.

However, there is a much better workaround than the process you described.

1. Make sure to not use the proprietary Sony recording format option (the one that allows in camera edits). Use the standard one.

2. Place the miniDVD in a tray-loading optical drive. If you have a slot-loading drive, well go out and get a tray-loading external.

3. Drag and drop the files from the miniDVD and into your machine.

4. Use MPEG Streamclip to transcode the files to DV streams. http://www.squared5.com/

5. Import those files into your video editing application (such as iMovie, FCE or FCP.)

If you don't plan to edit anything, just demux the miniDVD files to m2v and AIFF or AC3 and put it all together in DVD Studio Pro.

If you used the proprietary recording format, then you're stuck with the digital to analog to digital method.
Gee Thanks Rod Rod. I had no idea. But my experience with Streamclip so far has been very bad. Can you tell me what exact settings you use to successfully do that transcode to DV?
 
How Long?

How long will apple keep this offer for a $99 update/upgrade to Universal? Does anyone have any insight?

The reason I ask, I am planning on buying a new PowerMac late next year and am happy with the current features of FCE ... will this $99 offer be available 2 months from now? 1 year from now? Any ideas?
 
EMKoper said:
How long will apple keep this offer for a $99 update/upgrade to Universal? Does anyone have any insight?

The reason I ask, I am planning on buying a new PowerMac late next year and am happy with the current features of FCE ... will this $99 offer be available 2 months from now? 1 year from now? Any ideas?

In the past it's been available for the lifespan of the product. It's not really a special offer. I'd say it'll be available for approx. 1 year as they tend to release FCE express about once a year.
 
$99 Upgrade Is A Permanent Upgrade Offer For Every Version Of Final Cut Express

EMKoper said:
How long will apple keep this offer for a $99 update/upgrade to Universal? Does anyone have any insight?

The reason I ask, I am planning on buying a new PowerMac late next year and am happy with the current features of FCE ... will this $99 offer be available 2 months from now? 1 year from now? Any ideas?
By the end of next year Final Cut Express will be version 4.0 or 4.5 based on Final Cut Studio 6 which will probably be released at the Spring 2007 NAB show. This FCE $99 upgrade deal is the same $99 upgrade deal Apple has had in place for Final Cut Express since 2.0 shipped. So you don't need to buy your upgrade until you want it. I asked Apple Customer Service just now to be sure this is accurate. :)
 
Multimedia said:
By the end of next year Final Cut Express will be version 4.0 or 4.5 based on Final Cut Studio 6 which will probably be released at the Spring 2007 NAB show. This FCE $99 upgrade deal is the same $99 upgrade deal Apple has had in place for Final Cut Express since 2.0 shipped. So you don't need to buy your upgrade until you want it. I asked Apple Customer Service just now to be sure this is accurate. :)

Wow - do you really think it will take that long before Studio 6 arrives. Thats a very long time. Hmmmm
 
Tests Show Final Cut Studio On MacBook Beating Dual 2GHz G5 PowerMac Repeatedly

While not Final Cut Express, I thought you all would want to know how well Final Cut Studio 5.1 runs on the MacBook which I think you can expect from Final Cut Express 3.5 Universal as well.

devman said:
Creative Mac has posted benchmark results comparing the 13-inch MacBook with a dual 2.0 GHz G5 and a 2.16 GHz MacBook Pro running various rendering and encoding tests in Final Cut Studio 5.1., Motion 2.1, and Compressor 2.1.

http://www.creativemac.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=43717
Well La De Da! :p

While I rested my case back on page 85 post #2107, I guess we are looking at the real end of the dual processor G5's reign with this report. I guess this is as much of a surprise to the most die hard MacBook believers-in-the-first-place as it is to anyone who found it impossible to believe even in the face of young Lee Comley's early reports last week that the whole suite worked great in London. :D

Recently somebody here was trying to convice me I had drunk some kool-aid as a result of believing Lee and that there was no way it would work in America. :rolleyes:

Oh well. ;)

Thank you Dave Nagel for pounding that final nail in the coffin:
Conclusions
When I first got ahold of a MacBook Pro last month, I was shocked by its capability to beat out desktop G5 systems consistently. But I was doubly shocked to see such dramatic results from the newer and lower-end 2.0 GHz MacBook as well. After all, this is not just a notebook competing with a fairly current desktop system, but a consumer-level notebook at that.

Normally you don't even think about running benchmarks of professional-level creative software on a laptop against desktops, and certainly not a laptop targeted toward consumers. But in the vast majority of tests, the MacBook beat out the desktop system and certainly proved itself competition for all but the highest-end (G5 Quad) Mac systems on the market today.

Again, like the MacBook Pro, the 2.0 GHz 13-inch MacBook proves a thoroughly viable machine for users of Final Cut Studio.
 
Multimedia said:
Gee Thanks Rod Rod. I had no idea. But my experience with Streamclip so far has been very bad. Can you tell me what exact settings you use to successfully do that transcode to DV?
You're welcome Multimedia. Well, I didn't do anything special for the MPEG Streamclip DV transcode. I just clicked Export to DV in the File menu.
 
Final Cut Express vs. Final Cut Studio on MacBook?

octoberdeath said:
which would be better to run on a laptop: FC Express or FC Pro?
Both work great. Depends on your budget and what format you are using. FCStudio (includes Final Cut Pro 5.1.1) keeps native HDV while FCE does transcode. FCE is only for DV and HDV. Studio includes DVD Studio Pro 4.1.1, Soundtrack Pro 1.1 and Motion 2.1.1. So there is no pat answer. You are cripiling yourself with only 1GB of RAM in your G5.
 
I don't think you need to answer that question

octoberdeath said:
which would be better to run on a laptop: FC Express or FC Pro?

I don't think you need to answer that question. Apple will credit the money you spent on FCE later should you decide to upgrade FCE--> FCP. So you can simply buy FCE and use it until you find yourself limited them puy the extra bucks. The user interface is close enough to identical that I think you could just continue on after the upgrade.

I used this plan with iMove. I used iMove for a while but ran into limitations in iMovie's color corection ability. (I really do need this so I can cut between shots taken on different days and not jump the white ballance at the cuts.) Apple was smart to make FCE read iMove projects so users don't loose a lot of work. I doubt I will need FCP.
 
There Is Not An Upgrade Path From FCE To FCS - FCP Is No Longer A Stand Alone Product

ChrisA said:
I don't think you need to answer that question. Apple will credit the money you spent on FCE later should you decide to upgrade FCE--> FCP. So you can simply buy FCE and use it until you find yourself limited them puy the extra bucks. The user interface is close enough to identical that I think you could just continue on after the upgrade.

I used this plan with iMove. I used iMove for a while but ran into limitations in iMovie's color corection ability. (I really do need this so I can cut between shots taken on different days and not jump the white ballance at the cuts.) Apple was smart to make FCE read iMove projects so users don't loose a lot of work. I doubt I will need FCP.
There Is Not An Upgrade Path From FCE To FCS - FCP Is No Longer A Stand Alone Product. You can only buy Final Cut Pro with the Studio Suite now. Apple has discontinued selling Final Cut Pro by itself since going 5.1 Universal. :(

They also no longer offer an upgrade path from Final Cut Express to Final Cut Studio (formerly Pro only). :( So now the benefit of buying Final Cut Pro includes the suite of Motion 2, Soundtrack Pro and DVD Studio Pro 4 - all of which may no longer be purchased ala carte.
 
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