Final Cut Pro 5, Motion 2, Sountrack Pro, DVD Studio Pro 4

[iGary]

Apple Store is still up, looks like no PM's today.

 

[SiliconAddict]

Don't expect this this year. It'll be previewed 2006 and be coming out 2007. Which would give Apple about 2 years between the upgrades as they said they were slowing it down. I'd say spring/summer 2007 is a good date for 10.5.

They said they were going to stop the year to year update. Winter of '06 release would be about 18 months from the release of tiger. I don't expect Apple to sit on their hands as Longhorn is release. Tiger is good but it’s going to be old news when Longhorn comes out. Yes I know feature for feature Tiger is going to whip LH's butt but simply from the standpoint of marketing if Apple can start the buzz NOW and do a preview this year and a update at WWDC next year with a release just after Apple's Paris event it would take some of the wind out of Longshot’s sails.

 

[Rod Rod]

Excuse me for being completely ignorant, but does this new support for HD formats also mean that Q7 and FCS apps will support xvid?

I noticed they support AC3, which FCP HD and Studio Pro 3 do not, to my utter annoyance.

Guess I'll have to wait and see, but thanks anyone for your opinions.

1. Xvid is apparently not supported, but industry standard HD formats are supported. By "industry" I mean production industry, not software industry.
2. AC3 has ALWAYS been supported by DVD Studio Pro, going back to version 1. I don't know where you got the idea that DVDSP 3 didn't support AC3. You may now cease being utterly annoyed.
3. AC3 is not an editing format; it's good FCP doesn't "support" AC3. It's bad enough that MP3 and AAC files play back on FCP timelines. People are much better off using uncompressed AIFF/WAV files.

 

[k28]

Hmm...

I just realize that it is the first time that i see flash animation (on Final Cut Pro 5, Motion 2, Sountrack Pro, DVD Studio Pro 4 pages) on apple website.

Sorry, not so related....

 

[esquared]

incredible

Just called Apple about those of us who already own the 3 apps in the Editing Suite seperately, was told we have to pay the $699, NOT the $499 we're entitled to. Bend over boys and girls, Uncle Steve has somethin' for ya.....

 

[Wonder Boy]

Since the lawsuit, Thinksecret is just making up garbage to keep the site going. It's been wrong about everything except for the obvious predictions. Hell, my mother could have predicted the upgrades that came out today.

then maybe she should start a site.

 

[crpchristian]

its getting quiet

Uhm...Does anyone know what is going on with the Apple Booth today? Is there a link describing it/showing it off or can anyone briefly describe what was under all the black covers? I realize there were no PMs today or people would be talking about it already. Coming out tomorrow maybe? Is it just software being shown off today? That would make sense, its not like you'd want (if its coming) new hardware technology to overshadow such a big video/software update the day (after)its announced.

 

[Rod Rod]

Just called Apple about those of us who already own the 3 apps in the Editing Suite seperately, was told we have to pay the $699, NOT the $499 we're entitled to. Bend over boys and girls, Uncle Steve has somethin' for ya.....

Hey, you could just switch to Avid and pay $3495 for their HD editing suite, but wait, that's currently PC only. $699 is still an incredible bargain.

 

[Rod Rod]

Uhm...Does anyone know what is going on with the Apple Booth today? Is there a link describing it/showing it off or can anyone briefly describe what was under all the black covers? I realize there were no PMs today or people would be talking about it already. Coming out tomorrow maybe? Is it just software being shown off today? That would make sense, its not like you'd want (if its coming) new hardware technology to overshadow such a big video/software update the day (after)its announced.

Apple could have updated its ENTIRE line of desktops and portables yesterday and that would not have overshadowed Final Cut Studio. This idea of staggering announcements for the sake of not stealing thunder from products is mistaken. While it might make sense from an entertainment perspective, business wise it would be ruinous to hold back products for fear of "overshadowing." Besides, HD video demands faster hardware than what's out. A dual 2.5 does the job but certain renders and encodes still take a long time.

 

[dosers]

yes, you ARE eligible for the $499 upgrade

That's not true: I called the Apple store on 2 occasions (today and yesterday), for a personal and business purchase. In both cases I was assured that I am able to purchase (and have ordered!) the $499 production suite upgrade IF I own Motion, Final Cut Pro and DVD Studio Pro SEPERATELY. The install will check the aplications on your system and upgrade them. The $699 upgrade is only neccessary if you do not have ALL applications already.
Best, dan

Just called Apple about those of us who already own the 3 apps in the Editing Suite seperately, was told we have to pay the $699, NOT the $499 we're entitled to. Bend over boys and girls, Uncle Steve has somethin' for ya.....

 

[revenuee]

i just want to clarify a point as i got it from the website and everyone responses

i can edit my HDV footage on any of the new powerbooks right?

the only thing i really need a G5 for is if i want to burn HD to a HD DVD? meaning that if the need came, i can just take an external hard drive with my footage, hook it up to a capable machine and go from there?

i can just easily downgrade my HDV captured footage to 16:9 ratio SD and burn it to play on just SD DVD's? the current used by everybody?

the reason i ask is because i want to upgrade from my Sawtooth to a 15 inch powerbook in september ... i need portability, and i want to get just lower priced (maybe used) HDV cam --- i don't make a lot, or any money from my video work, it's almost all art/personal short projects. I'd like to work more with feature length, and i'd like to get the highest quality i can afford, and i love the 16:9 ratio, and i would like to watch it full screen, with with the highest quality on my LCD TV or when projected on large screens for viewings

thanks in advance ... i didn't want to make a new thread for this question, just figured i would ask in this one.

Rev

 

[esquared]

That's not true: I called the Apple store on 2 occasions (today and yesterday), for a personal and business purchase. In both cases I was assured that I am able to purchase (and have ordered!) the $499 production suite upgrade IF I own Motion, Final Cut Pro and DVD Studio Pro SEPERATELY. The install will check the aplications on your system and upgrade them. The $699 upgrade is only neccessary if you do not have ALL applications already.
Best, dan

OK, well, we've each been told something different. I was told by 2 different people at Apple Support, you at 2 different occasions by the Apple store. I hope you're right, but the proof is in the doing. I need alot more convincing, with all respect to you. I'll take the wait and see approach.

 

[dosers]

well

Hey, that's fair enough, and I understand that.
All I can say is that I have 2 orders placed, with the Apple store, for the $499 studio upgrades which I am told will work perfectly. I obviously haven't 'tried' it.

But, if you consider this: Who, if not us, WOULD be eligible for the $499 upgrade ? It's a fact the $699 upgrade is a one-product upgrade, i.e. it's clear on Apple's website that you can upgrade for $699 if you have any ONE of the products mentioned (as proven by the BUY button ). So, the upgrade from the product suite, purely logically, comes into play if you have not one but all the products (that were previously available) installed and owned already....

For what it's worth, I can give you my order number - maybe you can reference my sales person(s).....

Best,
Dan

OK, well, we've each been told something different. I was told by 2 different people at Apple Support, you at 2 different occasions by the Apple store. I hope you're right, but the proof is in the doing. I need alot more convincing, with all respect to you. I'll take the wait and see approach.

 

[Rod Rod]

i can edit my HDV footage on any of the new powerbooks right?

the only thing i really need a G5 for is if i want to burn HD to a HD DVD? meaning that if the need came, i can just take an external hard drive with my footage, hook it up to a capable machine and go from there?

i can just easily downgrade my HDV captured footage to 16:9 ratio SD and burn it to play on just SD DVD's? the current used by everybody?

That appears to be the case. Just be sure to have at least 1GB of RAM and a 1GHz or faster processor.

 

[esquared]

Hey, that's fair enough, and I understand that.
All I can say is that I have 2 orders placed, with the Apple store, for the $499 studio upgrades which I am told will work perfectly. I obviously haven't 'tried' it.

But, if you consider this: Who, if not us, WOULD be eligible for the $499 upgrade ? It's a fact the $699 upgrade is a one-product upgrade, i.e. it's clear on Apple's website that you can upgrade for $699 if you have any ONE of the products mentioned (as proven by the BUY button ). So, the upgrade from the product suite, purely logically, comes into play if you have not one but all the products (that were previously available) installed and owned already....

For what it's worth, I can give you my order number - maybe you can reference my sales person(s).....

Best,
Dan

Dan, I was told that if I buy the Suite upgrade, it will look for only 1 serial number to match, not 3. Apparently, those who bought the earlier suite version were given only 1 serial for the entire 3 apps. That is the number that the upgrade will try to reference. That's what I was told.

 

[revenuee]

That appears to be the case. Just be sure to have at least 1GB of RAM and a 1GHz or faster processor.

ya ... i can deal with the solution then ... awesome ... that makes me feel a little better

who knows, maybe we'll see some form of processor in the next powerbook that will be able to handle it anyway ... LOL ... dare to dream ..

thanks for your help

 

[Rod Rod]

ya ... i can deal with the solution then ... awesome ... that makes me feel a little better

who knows, maybe we'll see some form of processor in the next powerbook that will be able to handle it anyway ... LOL ... dare to dream ..

thanks for your help

You're welcome. Who knows, maybe we'll get an H.264 co-processor in the next PowerBooks (with or without a dual-core e600 or low power G5). That would rock.

 

[chameeeleon]

Does anyone recognize the tune used in the Motion 2 video about Mekanism? It's very catchy. Or maybe it's Apple-produced?

 

[esquared]

Hey, that's fair enough, and I understand that.
All I can say is that I have 2 orders placed, with the Apple store, for the $499 studio upgrades which I am told will work perfectly. I obviously haven't 'tried' it.

But, if you consider this: Who, if not us, WOULD be eligible for the $499 upgrade ? It's a fact the $699 upgrade is a one-product upgrade, i.e. it's clear on Apple's website that you can upgrade for $699 if you have any ONE of the products mentioned (as proven by the BUY button ). So, the upgrade from the product suite, purely logically, comes into play if you have not one but all the products (that were previously available) installed and owned already....

For what it's worth, I can give you my order number - maybe you can reference my sales person(s).....

Best,
Dan

Also, according to this http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/dvdstudiopro/upgradeguide.html , the only app. you may upgrade from to get Studio is FCP.

 

[BOOMBA]

angry as all heck!

wow the requirements seem high, def. not using these apps with a mini! Apple needs to add more balls to their pbs soon cause alot of people would want to use this on their 17" pb.
Its about time apple used flash on their website. The website is so plain.

I too am furious over these minimum requirements!
I just bought a BRAND NEW iPod Shuffle, and there is NO WAY these apps are going to run on it!

And I went for the 1 GB version SPECIFICALLY so I wouldn't run into this kind of problem!

GET IT TOGETHER APPLE!

 

[esquared]

Hey, that's fair enough, and I understand that.
All I can say is that I have 2 orders placed, with the Apple store, for the $499 studio upgrades which I am told will work perfectly. I obviously haven't 'tried' it.

But, if you consider this: Who, if not us, WOULD be eligible for the $499 upgrade ? It's a fact the $699 upgrade is a one-product upgrade, i.e. it's clear on Apple's website that you can upgrade for $699 if you have any ONE of the products mentioned (as proven by the BUY button ). So, the upgrade from the product suite, purely logically, comes into play if you have not one but all the products (that were previously available) installed and owned already....

For what it's worth, I can give you my order number - maybe you can reference my sales person(s).....

Best,
Dan

You were right Dan, I just found this page, http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/topquestions.html, which clearly says we are entitled to the $499 upgrade price. Now, if someone at Apple would be kind enough to inform their employees about this policy, it would greatly help keep my blood pressure in check

 

[dosers]

whew!

You were right Dan, I just found this page, http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/topquestions.html, which clearly says we are entitled to the $499 upgrade price. Now, if someone at Apple would be kind enough to inform their employees about this policy, it would greatly help keep my blood pressure in check

I couldn't agree more !! The times I had to 'fight' about something with Apple support or, to a somewhat lesser degree, Sales.....

Best,
Dan

 

[crpchristian]

midincredible

So it is just now dawning on me how amazing the midi support for motion could be. (i do a lot of music so luckily i already own a midi keyboard) I could animate and entire shot in REALTIME once i have things rigged up. You can almost completely bypass the process of setting up keyframes..its kind of like those remote control devices used for animatronic creatures, just animate it like a puppet.

Of course..how many video nerds are music nerds too

 

[Rod Rod]

Of course..how many video nerds are music nerds too

Animation and motion graphics are pretty much distinct categories from video, so maybe the question is how many musicians are also animators?

 

[RAS admin]

Dear Apple Customer,

Apple is pleased to report that a shipment for the following order
is on its way to you.

The following products shipped on 05/16/2005.


Product # Product Description Qty Ext Price
__________ ________________________________________ ____ ________________

M9912Z/A FINAL CUT STUDIO UPGRADE FROM FCP-INT 1 699.00
_________________________________________________________________________

Sweet!