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Final Cut Pro Trademark Update Suggests Apple Eyeing Future Subscription Model
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You knew this was coming. Creating and maintaining software is an expensive business. I guess they could increase the price to $600 and charge 30-50% for the yearly updates like Adobe did. But, people would complain about that also.
My guess you will be able to use the software you have for as long as you want. But, if you want to get updates and newer features you will have to switch to a subscription at some point.
Yeah I wonder what the best way to do it is... big upfront payments and periodic paid upgrades? Or small recurring payments?
I hear there are more people using Adobe software today than ever before.
And that's with their crazy subscription scheme.
So I dunno...
Yep. We use several 3-4 Adobe CC products and pay for the full Cloud subscription. Works out cheaper than it did when we had to buy yearly upgrades for those 3-4 products.Yeah I wonder what the best way to do it is... big upfront payments and periodic paid upgrades? Or small recurring payments?
I hear there are more people using Adobe software today than ever before.
And that's with their crazy subscription scheme.
So I dunno...
Also, it drives people to stay in the Adobe ecosystem. You start with your photos in Lightroom, but you need to do something advanced so add Photoshop. Then you want to do video so you start with Premier Rush, then need to do something cooler and get Premier Pro. Then you notice the audio on your videos sucks so you add Adobe Audition, .... Hmm, the cloud subscription is looking better and better....
Apple joining the subscription bandwagon? hmm, I'm not a FinalCutPro user so this does not impact me ...
IF they were going to bring Aperture back on subscription basis, I'd probably happily switch from my LR/PS subscription which I had to use since my Aperture crashed on me ...
IF they were going to bring Aperture back on subscription basis, I'd probably happily switch from my LR/PS subscription which I had to use since my Aperture crashed on me ...
Best way to go honestly. I had 3000 dollars and an option to get a Mac desktop or build my own PC which I can use for work as well as gaming. The decision couldn’t have been easier.
Provides a great contingency plan for if/when apple decides to pull stuff like this or further cripple macOS
No. Moving to Linux (and any other OSS) is an escape of being dictated how you want your computer to work for you. Your computer is yours, even if you don't have the technical ability to modify the source code, it's available for you to do so.
I'm really digging my M1 MBP, but if there was a Linux laptop which latested as long or ran as coolly I'd likely have it as my daily driver.
Exactly.
And if you run a business... the cost of software and upgrades shouldn't matter too much since it's a business expense.
But if you can go the subscription route... why not save some money and get updates as they become available?
And let's not forget that Adobe never really made software for "normal" people. As someone said earlier... it's not for hobbyists.
The people who balked at the $700 price for Photoshop and $250 for upgrades probably shouldn't be buying that software anyway. Or $2,600 for Master Collection and $1,200 for upgrades. It's not for them.
If I'm understanding the spirit of your response correctly, I think we're on the same page. We both agree that Apple has tons of money available. I think you feel that the money available in profit should "NOT" subsidize development of FCP because iPhone users (the providers of said profits) should not subsidize development of FCP as a SaaS. I can't help but respect your position man. But does that mean that prices of iPhones have to increase for Apple to develop FCP as a SaaS? I don't think so. Apple has been enjoying profits like crazy for years and years. There's no reason they should have to hike up anyone prices to make FCP a SaaS. Literally no FCP users nor iPhone users are asking for FCP as a SaaS.
You mean a one time paid version of FCP (super pro) with all the cloud goodies but no future feature updates? I'd be down for that too. The subscription creep is real and I'd go balls out to avoid it lol
Agreed, and Adobe tried to address this difference in users by creating lighter versions of their products such as Lightroom was to Photoshop, and Premier Rush is to Premiere Pro.Exactly.
And if you run a business... the cost of software and upgrades shouldn't matter too much since it's a business expense.
But if you can go the subscription route... why not save some money and get updates as they become available?
And let's not forget that Adobe never really made software for "normal" people. As someone said earlier... it's not for hobbyists.
The people who balked at the $700 price for Photoshop and $250 for upgrades probably shouldn't be buying that software anyway. Or $2,600 for Master Collection and $1,200 for upgrades. It's not for them.
But, unless there is some mechanism for continuous funding developers cannot continue to work on a product, beyond it being an off-work hobby project. Sooner or later developers need to have a source of income to cover the rent and food.
Will it? Apple currently has the most over-priced online storage in iCloud than any other competitor. They like to think what they offer is 'premium.'
You sound like the nitwits who trumpeted Adobe back when they moved to a subscription service. And look where that got us: A complete clusterf*ck of upgrades, unstable software, and erratic updates. The fact is these companies sit on their arses more often then not and STOP innovating.
Gawd, when will this subscription nonsense STOP? Last year I literally saw a text editor being sold as a subscription service. Let me repeat that: A TEXT EDITOR!
If this happens then it will be the true herald of The Death Of Apple™. Because if there’s one thing Steve Jobs really, really, REALLY hated was subscription models for software. He understood that fleecing the customer was never going to be a long term strategy. And anyone who has to subscribe to Adobe’s Creative Cloud services knows what kind of racket that is. That’s a complete clusterf*ck of upgrades, unstable software, and erratic updates. Not to mention when they actually robo-remove features in the middle of the night and you gotta explain to a screaming client why you can’t deliver their surround tracks anymore (look it up). The fact is these companies sit on their arses more often then not and STOP innovating.
I really hope that Apple doesn’t make this mistake and continues to use their software to drive hardware sales. For no other reason than they have proven themselves absolutely *terrible* at providing services, falling on their face time and time again. One needs to look no further than the complete cesspool that the App Store has become. To borrow one of their favorite phrases, it’s just *not* in their DNA.
If this happens then it will be the true herald of The Death Of Apple™. Because if there’s one thing Steve Jobs really, really, REALLY hated was subscription models for software. He understood that fleecing the customer was never going to be a long term strategy. And anyone who has to subscribe to Adobe’s Creative Cloud services knows what kind of racket that is. That’s a complete clusterf*ck of upgrades, unstable software, and erratic updates. Not to mention when they actually robo-remove features in the middle of the night and you gotta explain to a screaming client why you can’t deliver their surround tracks anymore (look it up). The fact is these companies sit on their arses more often then not and STOP innovating.
I really hope that Apple doesn’t make this mistake and continues to use their software to drive hardware sales. For no other reason than they have proven themselves absolutely *terrible* at providing services, falling on their face time and time again. One needs to look no further than the complete cesspool that the App Store has become. To borrow one of their favorite phrases, it’s just *not* in their DNA.
This is just straight up BS right out of the company publicity department. Adobe was a successful company *before* they moved to a subscription service. So was/is Apple, the most successful company in HISTORY. When does *more* become *enough*? Please.
This would be terrible. The fact that you can buy FCPX outright is one of the best things about FCPX!
I would think it’d be interesting if the subscription was specifically for non-Apple Silicon versions. If you don’t want to or can’t upgrade, then your subscription pays for the developers testers to perform Intel tweaks
ORRR, they plan to offer FCP for Windows and that will be a subscription? Lots of fun ways to slice this up.
ORRR, they plan to offer FCP for Windows and that will be a subscription? Lots of fun ways to slice this up.
Another interesting idea. This could be part of the Mac “subscription” service where Final Cut Pro is offered WITH the Mac as part of the subscription. Don’t need it anymore? Return the Mac and Final Cut Pro goes with it.
There are folks happily paying $99 a year for email, anything’s possible.