No, I'm asking you. What makes you think you DESERVE all the thing the iP4 have but without the high price?
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iPod touch Final Proof that ipod 4 screen is worse than iphone 4 screen (PICS)
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No, I'm asking you. What makes you think you DESERVE all the thing the iP4 have but without the high price?
If it's TN panel (and it is 99%), quality will be same as iPod touch 2/3gen, but with higher screen resolution.
I have posted 2 pics taken at the same event in this thread where it's demonstrably good off-axis, looking quite accurate at an angle way beyond you actually use the device, suggesting to me that the "bad" pics or video are some combination of screen brightness set quite high and lousy photography. Whether it's TN or IPS or whatever will be immaterial to the vast, vast majority of purchasers. You might as well complain there is no way for color correction/calibration to be done.
You're wrong. It's not the matter of deserving, it's the matter of Apple price policy. With touch 3rd and iPhone 3GS, according to Apple ppl deserved to have all the features except GSM/camera for 200$, not 500$. That strategy changed with iPod touch 4gen, as we all see it's got many more inferior features to the iPhone than previus iPod touch generations.
Show me where this policy is written down. I want to see where Apple specifically states this to be true.
Ok, so the iPhone screen is better. Who cares? Really. The new iPod Touch is a BA product. Very nice, and a huge step up from the other generations. Plus you don't have to pay a monthly plan. I seriously don't understand why you would think anyone would care..?
For the 1000 time, it's not only about viewing angles, which I think it's not that much important in small mobile devices. It's more about picture quality. Colors, black level, depth - it's all way better in IPS technology. I'm not saying screen quality in the new touch is crap. It's just a shame Apple didn't put an IPS screen, that's all. I'm sure you would have preffered it over TN, if you had a choice.
All good things come with a cost. The 4th gen iPT still blows the tires off any other media player, especially considering the price point. Not everyone is impossible to make happy like you seem to be.
Haha, you're so funny and naive to think company like Apple states it's strategy. It really doesn't take a genius to look back in time and compare touch 3rd gen specs with an iPhone 3GS specs to see exactly what differentiate them and how much more money ppl had to pay for just a gsm module and a camera.
I think no one would have complained if the IP4 would not ship with a IPS Panel but with the higher resolution. Just cause the IP4 has it people are crying about it. I'm pretty sure the difference is little if not noticeable at all to most people. Especially if you don't compare them next to each other.
So the 3G and the 3GS are the cases that defines the rule? Because they did it twice they need to keep doing it for every model?
He's asking you for evidence - of which you can't produce - if you're going to present a statement as a fact - well you need fact...doesn't really take a genius...
Since we've gotten past the off-angle business, we're going to have to wait to see them in person to determine color saturation and accuracy, because there is absolutely no way to assess that with a smattering of computer renderings and photography from a short hands-on event. Period. All this TN and IPS speculation is speculation.
No, it just proves you're wrong to think 400$ difference is always for more than gsm and camera modules, because that wasn't exactly the case with previous touches and iPhones. Apple changed it's strategy in 2010, though.
The fact that Apple added a LOT of new features while maintaining the low $229 price point is amazing.
My thoughts, exactly.
I'm going to put this in a more general form: What makes some Apple fans think their favorite company owes them all they want? What makes them think their dreams are the products they should release?
You know what i'm most upset about in terms of the new screen? Forget the iphone 4, why is the screen size so small compared to the iPad's darn it?
Kidding aside, I personally think the new model looks great, adds new features while still maintaining the same price points as last years models.
Also, what does it matter that Apple varied the specs or deviated from the supposed "parallel" that the iPhone and iPod touch might have shared? They are 2 different products aimed at 2 different markets and do not have to have the same screen, so be it.
Whats funny is that the arguments seem to be fixated around the camera/screen, but what about thinks like body style or battery life - none of which I'm complaining about although I really had hoped the body style would have been more iPhone 4 like.
Call it what you want, but as someone mentioned, the ipod touch is still an amazing device and better than most if not all multimedia portable devices out on the market today. What other device has the feature set or software that the ipod touch has, not many.
Kidding aside, I personally think the new model looks great, adds new features while still maintaining the same price points as last years models.
Also, what does it matter that Apple varied the specs or deviated from the supposed "parallel" that the iPhone and iPod touch might have shared? They are 2 different products aimed at 2 different markets and do not have to have the same screen, so be it.
Whats funny is that the arguments seem to be fixated around the camera/screen, but what about thinks like body style or battery life - none of which I'm complaining about although I really had hoped the body style would have been more iPhone 4 like.
Call it what you want, but as someone mentioned, the ipod touch is still an amazing device and better than most if not all multimedia portable devices out on the market today. What other device has the feature set or software that the ipod touch has, not many.
No Apple hasn't changed its strategy. I've posted links above that show the earlier iPhones had different screens from the iPod Touches. The difference was probably smaller but nonetheless they didn't use the same screen which is contrary to your claim. In addition, just having two cameras and a mic means the gap between the iPhone and the Touch is smaller than ever before if anything.
goodboy is just whining to whine. don't feed the troll.
i'm sure there'll be plenty of comparisons when the thing finally comes out. stop theory crafting and wait a few days.
i'm sure there'll be plenty of comparisons when the thing finally comes out. stop theory crafting and wait a few days.
More Proof It Has Ips Panel?!?
Im not sure if this will create more arguments, (which i intent not to do btw), but i had to post this and this sounded like a good place.
I was pestering Apple all day today, and they finally told me some stuff about the 4th Gen iPod.
First it was their helpline thingy, and they said that the iPod does support the same Retina Display as the iPhone 4 (just as Steve Jobs mentioned).
But it was the technical side that really sold it to me. For hours i was on the Technical Support Line, and nearly 99% of them proved to me that it had the IPS Panel in the iPod Touch but had no oil-resistant coating (fair enough).
I spoke to Apple Experts too and this one lady took nearly 20mins to answer my question (the link to the part of the convo is below), but after that long wait, she said that after she contacted the System Engineers, they told her that it had the IPS Panel. Now she also stated (as you see in the convo) that the System Engineers are the ones that told her the specs that weren't listed on the Apple site because apparently it only lists the ones that were more popular.
The first picture below is the one i have been talking about, the other two are just one convo confirming the IPS Panel.
Im not sure if this will create more arguments, (which i intent not to do btw), but i had to post this and this sounded like a good place.
I was pestering Apple all day today, and they finally told me some stuff about the 4th Gen iPod.
First it was their helpline thingy, and they said that the iPod does support the same Retina Display as the iPhone 4 (just as Steve Jobs mentioned).
But it was the technical side that really sold it to me. For hours i was on the Technical Support Line, and nearly 99% of them proved to me that it had the IPS Panel in the iPod Touch but had no oil-resistant coating (fair enough).
I spoke to Apple Experts too and this one lady took nearly 20mins to answer my question (the link to the part of the convo is below), but after that long wait, she said that after she contacted the System Engineers, they told her that it had the IPS Panel. Now she also stated (as you see in the convo) that the System Engineers are the ones that told her the specs that weren't listed on the Apple site because apparently it only lists the ones that were more popular.
The first picture below is the one i have been talking about, the other two are just one convo confirming the IPS Panel.
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I've been slightly pulling my hair out due to this whole thing. I just would like to know the truth, heh, so thanks for posting that. Of course, it still could be mis-information on Apple's part, but this seems to be the most 'solid' info we have gotten from them.
I registered just to view your attachments.
I've been slightly pulling my hair out due to this whole thing. I just would like to know the truth, heh, so thanks for posting that. Of course, it still could be mis-information on Apple's part, but this seems to be the most 'solid' info we have gotten from them.
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I joined in August i think, for the exact same reason as you, and hey, its worth getting involved, its kinda fun Yh, from what information i've been told from Apple, every expert i've spoken to have said it has been included in the new iPod Touch 4G.