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bousozoku

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Here's what's new in Firefox 1.5.0.2:

* Universal Binary support for Mac OS X which provides native support for Macintosh with Intel Core processors. Firefox supports the enhancements to performance introduced by the new MacIntel chipsets.
* Improvements to product stability.
* Several security fixes.
 
Cool. Just a 972 KB download for me... :)

Edit: Not so cool. The upgrade failed, and now Firefox' Software Update are trying to download the update again... and timed out... :(

Edit 2: I had to download the whole 1.5.0.2 from the mozilla site, and I'm using an iBook G4, so the whole Intel thingy shouldn't be an issue... well, at least it didn't break SpellBound this time (since I'm using the Development version ;)).
 
It's important to note the following from the Release Notes:

Known Issues:
If you are running Firefox 1.5 or Firefox 1.5.0.1 on Macintosh computers with Intel Core processors under Rosetta, you will get upgraded to a PowerPC-only, Firefox 1.5.0.2 product via the automated update system. You will need to download the Firefox 1.5.0.2 Universal Binary build from www.mozilla.com to take advantage of the native support for Intel-based Macintosh computers.

Here's a quick direct link to the full download:
Firefox for Mac OS X (16.0MB)
 
Downnload it via the website. There appears to be a known issue where if you are using a PPC version it'll upgrade you to the PPC version of the update.
For intel version use the website for this first intance.

EDIT: Someone beat me to it.
 
Mitthrawnuruodo said:
Edit: Not so cool. The upgrade failed, and now Firefox' Software Update are trying to download the update again... and timed out... :(

Mine has failed too, but the second one worked great. :D
 
Haoshiro said:
Wow, it definitely seems to launch faster, perform better, and load websites much faster...
It's faster and performs better? ;)
 
Does anyone else find Firefox using an inordinate amount of cpu when displaying sites with flash content(mtv,nba.com,etc..)? On average it uses 3x the cpu use of Safari on the same web-pages!

Is this a problem with the flash plugin or with Firefox itself? I really want to try out Firefox, because I've heard many great things about it, but this isn't leaving a good first impression.
 
toneloco2881 said:
Does anyone else find Firefox using an inordinate amount of cpu when displaying sites with flash content(mtv,nba.com,etc..)? On average it uses 3x the cpu use of Safari on the same web-pages!

Is this a problem with the flash plugin or with Firefox itself? I really want to try out Firefox, because I've heard many great things about it, but this isn't leaving a good first impression.

Both of Macromedia's plug-ins are pigs but it seems as though Safari goes out of its way to make up for the plug-ins.

I was just going to say that Firefox has really shaped up as to CPU usage. It's doesn't seem to be much more intensive than Thunderbird--at least, on static web pages.
 
Flash plays much better in Firefox it seems, however. If a Safari window is in the background playing Flash it really lags, but in Firefox it seems to run smoothly no matter if I have the window on top or not... so at least that is a plus. :)
 
Firefox goes Universal...

Mozilla officially released an update to Firefox today that made it Universal. I downloaded it, but I fail to see a speed improvement of the browser. To be honest, I have never seen the benefit of Firefox. It has always seemed slow and bogged down in comparison to Safari, at least to me.

Never really understood what the big deal is. It doesn't load pages as quickly as Safari, and it takes for ever for it to launch.

[Moderator note: threads merged]
 
spencecb said:
Mozilla officially released an update to Firefox today that made it Universal. I downloaded it, but I fail to see a speed improvement of the browser. To be honest, I have never seen the benefit of Firefox. It has always seemed slow and bogged down in comparison to Safari, at least to me.

Never really understood what the big deal is. It doesn't load pages as quickly as Safari, and it takes for ever for it to launch.

Camino 1.0 is pretty speedy :)
 
Firefox on PC dosn't attract ad ware and other little Active X surprises and isn't made by Microsoft.

On the Mac however.... these are solutions problems that don't exist.

Good to have the choice though.
 
spencecb said:
I don't think I have ever tried Camino. Might check it oout, although I am perfectly happy with Safari.

I didn't really have any specific problems with Safari, but decided to try Camino out for a little while. That was about 4 months ago, and I haven't touched Safari since. :D
 
My firefox upgrade went smoothly...

I got the pop-up to upgrade, clicked on it and it ran on its' own...

My 2 cents: It runs smoother and faster! :) me likey :D
 
I gotta check out Firefox. I've been using Safari for quite a while.

Anyone know if Firefox can print international USPS shipping labels through ebay/paypal? Domestic shipping labels print fine, but for some reason with the Java implementation Safari AND Camino both become unresponsive trying to display/print international shipping labels. Since Firefox is based on non-IE, maybe, just maybe it will work. I'm getting tired of voiding international labels and having to go in to the post office to mail an international package. :(
 
Yeah, but

spencecb said:
Mozilla officially released an update to Firefox today that made it Universal. I downloaded it, but I fail to see a speed improvement of the browser. To be honest, I have never seen the benefit of Firefox. It has always seemed slow and bogged down in comparison to Safari, at least to me.

Never really understood what the big deal is. It doesn't load pages as quickly as Safari, and it takes for ever for it to launch.

[Moderator note: threads merged]

Yeah, but Firefox works. I run into 1-2 websites per week where Safari just doesn't work. Firefox almost always works. I use Safari most of the time, but I would never run a machine without firefox handy.
 
fluidinclusion said:
Yeah, but Firefox works. I run into 1-2 websites per week where Safari just doesn't work. Firefox almost always works. I use Safari most of the time, but I would never run a machine without firefox handy.

That's pretty much my experience, too. I use Safari or better yet, Shiira when Firefox doesn't work. Besides, it always seems faster than Safari or Shiira.
 
I used firefox for a long time, but it started being a resource hog, and caused my machine to slow waaaay down. I switched to safari, and all the problems stopped. It was like I had a new machine.

In my experience, FF doesn't run that well on macs without gobs of memory.
 
Main story says "...Firefox browser has been updated to 1.5.2." which is incorrect the version is 1.5.0.2.
 
BlizzardBomb said:
Camino is much better for Mac OS X users IMO. Faster and very stable :)

Camino is more OSX-like; but it's not nearly as flexible as Firefox. So it depends what's important to the individual.

I use Firefox because 1) the cookie management is superior to both Camino and (even moreso) to Safari; 2) the extensions are just too darn useful; and 3) the JavaScript console makes web development a heck of a lot easier. Obviously point 3 won't matter to most people; and the other two come down to taste.
 
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