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Firefox 1.5.0.2 is a Universal Binary

w00master said:
Definitely respect your opinion here, but here's mine:

1. Firefox is universal. Not, universal as in "Universal Binary," but universal as in multi-platform. It's the same on the PC; it's the same on the Mac, and it's the same on Linux. Since I use all three, there is absolutely no comparison here.

2. Extensions. Sure, Safari has a lot of "plug-ins" and scripts, etc, but it does not even come close to firefox's extensions. Adblock on Safari is good, but it doesn't close to the "original" Firefox's adblock. Additionally because of Firefox's "universality," nearly all extensions work cross platform. Safari definitely cannot do this.

3. Search Engines. Yeah, you can "add" search engines to Safari, but if you take a look at the list that's available for Firefox it simply doesn't even come close.

4. Open Source. This to me is the biggest plus. There's an enormous devoted community on all fronts: Linux, Windows, and OS X that supports this amazing browser.


In the end it comes down to personal taste. I definitely agree with you that Firefox isn't very "Mac-like," but for me the plusses far outweigh this issue. I simply cannot live without this browser. For me, being a multi-platform user, Firefox brings me back to sanity. It's something consistent in the three (very different) OS environments. You can't get that with Safari.

w00master
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Yeah, for multi-platform stuff Safari aint so good.... Only one point of disagreement. I use PithHelmet and SafariPlus together, which means I rarely see ads and I get no dialog boxes. What I've seen for FireFox requires more user input. But like you said, that's the sort of thing that may be in 1.6 with all the amateur/pro devs working on it. Still, Opera is also multi platform AND more secure, so I would recommend Opera over Firefox even then. I never found any worthwhile extensions for FF, but then, there's probably more since I last looked.:p
 
mikemodena said:
I always thought I only needed Firefox and it was my browser of choice, but I just tried Camino and it's way faster than Firefox. Camino is my new favorite :D
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Really? I tried it and found little difference. That was some time ago though.

In the end, I decided that speed wasn't a major factor for me since I have a 100mbps connection anyway, which is fast enough for me on even some of the slowest browsers. So, I loaded up Safari with freeware to disable just the unwanted ads and cookies and use cool stuff like SafariStand. In other words, my choice might change if some really good tweaks come out, except I still like Safari's interface over all those silly buttons and all that. Opera I never worked with much, but would be better without all that clutter to the left, on top, etc. Plus, all my Safari tweaks mean that Safari is highly unstable, almost as unstable as the typical windows app. Seriously. It's horrible. But in return I don't see any ads and I can navigate with screenshot-tabs, although Safari is also slowed down due to this. In a few months I'll probably tire of these crashes and reinstate Safari without the addon stuff.:eek:
 
(L) said:
Really? I tried it and found little difference. That was some time ago though.

In the end, I decided that speed wasn't a major factor for me since I have a 100mbps connection anyway, which is fast enough for me on even some of the slowest browsers. So, I loaded up Safari with freeware to disable just the unwanted ads and cookies and use cool stuff like SafariStand. In other words, my choice might change if some really good tweaks come out, except I still like Safari's interface over all those silly buttons and all that. Opera I never worked with much, but would be better without all that clutter to the left, on top, etc. Plus, all my Safari tweaks mean that Safari is highly unstable, almost as unstable as the typical windows app. Seriously. It's horrible. But in return I don't see any ads and I can navigate with screenshot-tabs, although Safari is also slowed down due to this. In a few months I'll probably tire of these crashes and reinstate Safari without the addon stuff.:eek:
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I notice the pages come up snappier, but also Camino loads much faster and responds better. Firefox felt a little sluggish sometimes loading pages or starting up.
 
I love Shiira, by far the fastest browser out there... very solid.

The main thing missing from Camino for me is the "apple 1" "apple 2" to get to bookmark #1 and bookmark #2 keyboard shortcuts.

IS there a way to add this feature, enable this feature in Camino?
 
(L) said:
Yeah, for multi-platform stuff Safari aint so good.... Only one point of disagreement. I use PithHelmet and SafariPlus together, which means I rarely see ads and I get no dialog boxes. What I've seen for FireFox requires more user input. But like you said, that's the sort of thing that may be in 1.6 with all the amateur/pro devs working on it. Still, Opera is also multi platform AND more secure, so I would recommend Opera over Firefox even then. I never found any worthwhile extensions for FF, but then, there's probably more since I last looked.:p
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(L)-

With adblock Filterset updater (https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1136/), you never have to update anything. It happens automatically w/ virtually no userinput.

As for Opera, I do love this browser and wish I could go with it, but with the available extensions for Firefox I can't really go w/ Opera full-time.

w00master
 
hi there. i have a mac mini core duo that was running 1.5.0.1 and then the updater updated me to 1.5.0.2.... i want to use the universal version, however.

do i need to un-install the powerpc version of firefox first, or do i just download the universal version from the website and drag the application to my applications folder and it takes care of all of it?

sorry but i dont know how to un-install/install over applications on the mac...

thanks,
keith
 
keithos27 said:
do i need to un-install the powerpc version of firefox first, or do i just download the universal version from the website and drag the application to my applications folder and it takes care of all of it?
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Just download the newest version, open the disk image and drag the new Firefox.app to your Applications folder and agree to replace the old version. As easy as it gets (without the software updater ;)).
 
Mitthrawnuruodo said:
Just download the newest version, open the disk image and drag the new Firefox.app to your Applications folder and agree to replace the old version. As easy as it gets (without the software updater ;)).
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wow, apple makes it easy! :)
 
dontmakemehurtu said:
Hey, Mitthrawnuruodo. When is that stylesheet of your gonna be done? It looks insanely great. Let me know, OK?
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I'm not sure it ever will be "done"... :p

But if you want it as-is here it is (;)):
 

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The thing that annoys me most about Safari is that I run into web pages that it simply do not render properly. i.e. eBay. The text is so small that it is barely readable.
 
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