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Both browsers are quite good but Safari edges out for my usage. RSS integration and overall OS integration such as lookup in dictionary (lots of bloggers with their big words), mail, automator are all Godsends and Acidsearch plugin is also amazing.

Overall speed is also better in Safari, its really fast. However i love Firefox's save/restore session feature, spell check, clear private data on exit, force links to open new tab not window features AND you can customize the look.

Safari is quite possibly the ugliest browser i've had to use. UNO used to help but i recently deleted the app and now i can no longer re-install as their site has been suspended.

If firefox had an RSS reader integrated i'd switch to it faster than you can say cat in a hat BUT it doesn't. I also wish Safari wasn't such a memory hog and was as customizable as Firefox.

Oh well, i'll have to use both for now. You know what they say, two heads are better than one.
 
Both browsers are quite good but Safari edges out for my usage. RSS integration and overall OS integration such as lookup in dictionary (lots of bloggers with their big words), mail, automator are all Godsends and Acidsearch plugin is also amazing.

Overall speed is also better in Safari, its really fast. However i love Firefox's save/restore session feature, spell check, clear private data on exit, force links to open new tab not window features AND you can customize the look.

Safari is quite possibly the ugliest browser i've had to use. UNO used to help but i recently deleted the app and now i can no longer re-install as their site has been suspended.

If firefox had an RSS reader integrated i'd switch to it faster than you can say cat in a hat BUT it doesn't. I also wish Safari wasn't such a memory hog and was as customizable as Firefox.

Oh well, i'll have to use both for now. You know what they say, two heads are better than one.
I agree that safari is the best option right now. But I noticed that there are so features you may not have discovered in safari yet.

To turn on spell check, right click (ctrl click) a text box and select "check spelling as you type." If you want to open a link in a new tab instead of a new window, just command click that link.

Good luck and happy surfing. Oh I almost forgot. To speed up safari, delete your cookies and bookmark icons regularly. You can use Onyx if you don't know where that stuff is.
 
I've tried all of the major browsers, and I have to say that IMHO safari takes the cake. I like its ease of use, slick design, and quick loading. I'll be sticking with Safari.
 
What I don't like about FF, aside from its slow start-up times, is that it doesn't render pages properly. Often, I'll find words or links overlapping one another or boxes on top of each other. I'm not on my Mac right now so I can't pull a screen grab, but has anyone else noticed this problem? I actually experience this in Opera, Camino, and FF - Safari is the only clean one, which is why I use it, heh.
 
I agree that safari is the best option right now. But I noticed that there are so features you may not have discovered in safari yet.

To turn on spell check, right click (ctrl click) a text box and select "check spelling as you type." If you want to open a link in a new tab instead of a new window, just command click that link.

Good luck and happy surfing. Oh I almost forgot. To speed up safari, delete your cookies and bookmark icons regularly. You can use Onyx if you don't know where that stuff is.

You're right!, thats something i learned today. Thanks. As for clearing cookies and icons, i do that using Onyx already.
 
Both browsers are quite good but Safari edges out for my usage. RSS integration and overall OS integration such as lookup in dictionary (lots of bloggers with their big words), mail, automator are all Godsends and Acidsearch plugin is also amazing.

Overall speed is also better in Safari, its really fast. However i love Firefox's save/restore session feature, spell check, clear private data on exit, force links to open new tab not window features AND you can customize the look.

Safari is quite possibly the ugliest browser i've had to use. UNO used to help but i recently deleted the app and now i can no longer re-install as their site has been suspended.

If firefox had an RSS reader integrated i'd switch to it faster than you can say cat in a hat BUT it doesn't. I also wish Safari wasn't such a memory hog and was as customizable as Firefox.

Oh well, i'll have to use both for now. You know what they say, two heads are better than one.

You can get UNO here: http://mac.majorgeeks.com/download6022.html
 
As a multiplatform user, there's no better choice than Firefox. For the most part, the plugins I use are cross-platform. The look and feel is the same across platforms. It's a consistent product.

On my Mac, Firefox is the one app that I have running at all times, and imho no other browser out there beats it. Basically, I can shape the browser on how I want it to be. You can't do that better (imho) than any other browser. Firefox is fast, loads up quickly, and does it all. It also renders far more web pages better than Safari does.

I like Safari. I really do, but I feel severely limited on it. However, I will be giving Safari 3.0 a shot, but for the time being on my Mac (as well as my other boxes), Firefox will remain the browser that I normally use.

w00master
 
Well, I'm kinda surprised that this hasn't been brought up yet, but...

Safari is kinda kinky when it comes to international language support.

For example, when ever I download attachments with Korean in the name, it converts all the Korean into ??s, which is absolutely useless.

Also, it has problems auto detecting the Korean encoding in some Korean websites, and it's a major hassle to change the text encoding setting EVERY TIME I load a page of the website.

Another major-ish gripe is its lack of integration with gmail(ex. tab-enter not supported)


Firefox doesn't have these problems, and though I'd be happy to try something else, for now FF is the only USABLE option.
 
I love Firefox on the PC, but on the Mac I don't like it a lot. It's a lot uglier and slower than on PC. But I agree, Firefox has a lot of great features, a lot of extensions available.
Safari has a very nice design, but some sites don't work well in Safari. Cool that Inquisitor plugin! I'm gonna use Safari more because of that.
 
I'm kinda torn between Firefox and Safari. Safari's nicely integrated with the OS, and wins in overall slickness, but Firefox is just so much more customizable and I find I can do more things with it, especially in the right-click menus. I especailly like Adblock, since I've been used to it for as long as I've been using Firefox (way before I got a Mac). Safari's various (free) ways to block ads (css blocking, SafariStand, SafariBlock, and this one other one I can't remember) apparently just don't like me.

GrApple looks very nice btw, I'll have to d/l it when I get home (I'm using the school's XP computers :( )
 
I'm kinda torn between Firefox and Safari. Safari's nicely integrated with the OS, and wins in overall slickness, but Firefox is just so much more customizable and I find I can do more things with it, especially in the right-click menus.
I can certainly agree with this point. Plus FF is cross-platform, which means I can use it at home on my Mac and at the office on XP. Add in Google Bookmark Sync and I can never go back to Safari. I only wish there was a clean way to automatically sync bookmarks between Safari and FF. That is the one feature that I simply cannot do without. Most of the other features I can replicate (even if crudely) with Safari plug-ins.
 
Thoughts on Shira? I downloaded the latest stable version (beta build was horridly unstable) and so far, I love it. It's quick, has a nice UI, and some neat features.
 
Thoughts on Shira? I downloaded the latest stable version (beta build was horridly unstable) and so far, I love it. It's quick, has a nice UI, and some neat features.

its a dying product, they are slow as hell in development.
 
Ajax

I can't believe no one has mentioned that fact that Safari does not handle most AJAX-based web sites! Blogspot, yahoo mail, google mail, google maps all have 10X more functionality if you use firefox.

Safari outright sucks!

The fact that Safari does not support javascript standards or at least those needed by the prototype API is either arrogance or stupidity on the part of the developers at Apple. I'm reading this thread thinking "No wonder they don't do anything about this. All anyone's talking about is how fast the browser is or how it looks."

If you want to use any of google's spreadsheet or word processing sites you can use almost any other mac browser than safari. Even at the recent macworld when Steve Jobs was talking about safari on the iPhone "because he wanted the world's best browser" there was an audible moan.

If you've only seen the world through Safari download firefox now!!! You won't believe what you've been missing and what a load of crap Apple has delivered with Safari.
 
is this a good place to get firefox help?

i have a problem with firefox -- just since i got a mb

FireFox Downloads .EXE files only
when i go to the apple site (and others, too) in firefox and want to download a file, it always comes in as @@@@.EXE

example: my airport update should've come in as AirPortExtremeUpdate2007001.dmg , but instead it came in as: cylcmj0k.exe

most other files d/l fine (zip, widget, etc). it seems to be confined to .dmg files.

i have to go to safari to download files.
didn't have this problem until i got my MB.
never had this problem on my emac. both running osx 10.4.8

macbook c2d 2.0Gz
osx 10.4.8
Firefox/2.0.0.1

i've been wrestling with this problem for over 2 months.
 
i have a problem with firefox -- just since i got a mb

FireFox Downloads .EXE files only
when i go to the apple site (and others, too) in firefox and want to download a file, it always comes in as @@@@.EXE

example: my airport update should've come in as AirPortExtremeUpdate2007001.dmg , but instead it came in as: cylcmj0k.exe

most other files d/l fine (zip, widget, etc). it seems to be confined to .dmg files.

i have to go to safari to download files.
didn't have this problem until i got my MB.
never had this problem on my emac. both running osx 10.4.8

macbook c2d 2.0Gz
osx 10.4.8
Firefox/2.0.0.1

i've been wrestling with this problem for over 2 months.

check on the mozilla forums. i remember seeing this problem come up awhile back and there is a fix for it. but i don't remember right off hand what it was.

have you tried a new profile just to eliminate any file corruption or an extension causing the problems?

good luck and if i see anything for this, i'll post it.
 
check on the mozilla forums. i remember seeing this problem come up awhile back and there is a fix for it. but i don't remember right off hand what it was.

have you tried a new profile just to eliminate any file corruption or an extension causing the problems?

good luck and if i see anything for this, i'll post it.

i've tried the mozilla forum. couldn't find anythiing there. even had suggestions from a couple guys there (peecee people).

i've reinstalled firefox. i've deleted my downloads.rdf. can't think of anything else to do. am wondering if it's a macbook problem, since my emac never had a problem like this.

and, yes, please keep an eye out for something to help. i've been using FF for several years now, and i like it muchly.
 
bleh, the mozilla search function is the pits these days, whatever happened to advanced search so you could narrow down the forum?? i look and couldn't find it either. but i do remember this coming up and there WAS fix for it.

i know you said you deleted FF and reinstalled it, but sometimes, the profile folder remains and can cause problems. don't delete firefox, just create a new profile, don't install any themes of extensions and see if you can download correctly.

also, look into the default download handling in safari...it might effect how FF downloads (i know that seems odd, but i swear i think it effects it). it isn't just your macbook. i've used FF on both a macbook and MBP with no problems so whatever is wrong, it's not a mac/FF issue.
 
also, look into the default download handling in safari...it might effect how FF downloads (i know that seems odd, but i swear i think it effects it). it isn't just your macbook. i've used FF on both a macbook and MBP with no problems so whatever is wrong, it's not a mac/FF issue.

yeah, i had another safari/FF issue that took me a while to conquer. FF wouldn't put my d/l's into my d/l folder. some went there, while some wennt to desktop, and some to documents folder. finally figured out it was a safari pref and changed that. but the .dmg to .exe confounds me still.
 
i love firefox, its in my opinion the best browser, sure it may be slow but the extensions more than makeup for it. such as itunes controls in the window or the ability to use my gmail accounts like an ftp. or the fact that i can fully customize it.

the thing i hate about safari is you have to tell it to open tabs before it will do it, its ugly and they fonts are weird. its easy for me to tell when someone prints with safari.
 
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