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I'm inclined to believe they won't update it this year and maybe not even next March (when the 9.7 hits it's one-year mark). I just bought a 12.9" over the weekend because I get 18 months to pay for it and that offer will expire well before the Fall update schedule. True Tone sounds nice, but the current display is amazing so it is a feature I personally don't feel the need to pay more for so if they do update this Fall, I will have no regrets.
You too? You got it recently? Is camera important to you? I don't use camera from my other ipad so it's not biggie with 4K video or high mp camera.
 
Exactly. Sold my Air 2 for a Pro 9.7", returned that two weeks later and bought another Air 2.

What were your reasons for returning the iPad Pro? Likes/dislikes? Was there a large variance of speed between the two devices?
 
I didn't see that much of a leap, if any really, between my iPad Air & iPad Pro [9.7"]
that I shall be skipping this generation and subsequent generations for the foreseeable future.
My next Apple purchase? A self-contained VR HMD.
 
I really like my iPad Pro 9.7, use it mainly for web surfing, email and streaming Netflix, Amazon etcetera. I do a lot of tv/movie watching in bed with it, and the display is just superb. However, I find it a bit small for viewing letterboxed movies, and am tempted by the 12.9", particularly if will be getting the True Tone feature via update. I would appreciate any user comments re the larger iPad as an entertainment device.
 
What were your reasons for returning the iPad Pro? Likes/dislikes? Was there a large variance of speed between the two devices?
Honestly it just wasn't worth the price. I picked up the 128GB wifi+cellular model and a pen to go with it for editing photos and doing light word processing on the go. Immediately I was upset when it turned out that Apple either left out or disabled the USB 3 controller that made quick charging and faster transfer speeds possible on the 12.9" Pro. After a couple days, the only things I liked about it over my Air 2 was the improved screen (even though half the time I had to miss out on the trutone feature because it destroys color accuracy while editing) and the superior sound thanks to the two extra speakers. After 8 days, I was struggling to justify the price difference given the lack of "Pro" apps that took advantage of the increased processor and memory speeds, as most apps available ran almost identically on the Air 2 as the Pro. At this point I switched my focus to the Pencil, hoping that would convince me as Pencil support was something the Pro had that the Air 2 didn't. Yeah, no. Anyone that raved about the comfort of use for the Pencil is either diluted or lying. Hold a ball point pen against a window or mirror, and pretend to write or sketch, focusing on the lack of resistance as it travels and the hard tap the tip makes every time you press it against the glass. Now pretend your pen weighs as much as the iPod Nano and is horribly balanced with much of the weight in the upper half instead of the lower to tip like it should be and your muscle memory expects. I'm a very tactile person, and that experience drove me nuts. Is it responsive and accurate? Absolutely. Would I prefer it over a Wacom tablet? Hell no. Towards the end of week two, ran out of any reason to keep it other than embarrassment over selling my Air 2 before actually trying the Pro first.

TL;DR, all the reasons that make purchasing a 12.9" Pro over the Air 2 just aren't to be found in the smaller 9.7". It's a beautiful device, the screen is gorgeous, but in all fairness it's really an Air 3 that Apple was able to charge a couple hundred bucks more for by adding "Pro" to the name.
 
I'm inclined to believe they won't update it this year and maybe not even next March (when the 9.7 hits it's one-year mark). I just bought a 12.9" over the weekend because I get 18 months to pay for it and that offer will expire well before the Fall update schedule. True Tone sounds nice, but the current display is amazing so it is a feature I personally don't feel the need to pay more for so if they do update this Fall, I will have no regrets.

I too do not see the 12.9 being updated yet. Its to early and consider consumer exhaustion, confusion with what model to buy or to many models/configurations.
 
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It didn't and it will not have an update by November. Way to early. Maybe March 2017. It's been only nine months and others are thinking the 12.9 Pro 2 will announce in September, which won't happen.
I'm sure some particular members here think otherwise...maybe because of iphone trend...
but i'm with you on this...it seems .....early. I haven't seen any prototype "leak."
 
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a 12 GB model might indeed be a Cookish move. They'll gain more from the iCloud subscription every month than from the one time extra you pay for more flash.
Yeah, you see not even iCloud can work with 12gb, I've got a 16gb iPhone and even iCloud is limited cause I can't have my photos in my phone. Let alone, having just a few apps. Small GB configurations is disastrous and you can't hope for the cloud to save you.
 
A new iPP makes sense in one way and then again not really in another way..

It´s gen1, the beta version.
iPad 2 och iPad-Mwrd where both released not to long after the original version.
Apple have made improvements to the smaller version and looking at the price (and the marketing) of the 12,9 iPP it really should have all the bells and whistles.

That being said..

..Safari gets snappier?
 
I use mine to scan/digitize documents. Even in public. Not really criminal.

Maybe you mean this guy who had a penchant for really big cameras. Ansel Adams. Produced some criminally beautiful photographs I guess you could say? Sorta.

Ansel-Adams-Portrait-Inner-Banner1.jpg

In this example, size IS a function of quality. So sorta, no! ;)
 
It didn't and it will not have an update by November. Way to early. Maybe March 2017. It's been only nine months and others are thinking the 12.9 Pro 2 will announce in September, which won't happen.

Not sure what I'm going to do yet. I'm going to purchase a iPad Pro for a drawing tablet mainly but I don't want to purchase one now and in the next couple months have a new one announced. Chances are slim sure but would totally suck if it happened.
 
It has done well enough for it to become preferred in some business settings. The latest in medical software seems perfect for it.
How so? Current apps in use run no faster on the Pro than the Air 2, so what benefit is there? I know in some ads medical professionals are shown using the Pro to display x-rays and such, but that's not realistic. Yes my wife carries an iPad around at work, but it's a mini 4. If she is showing a patient an image from an X-ray or MRI scan, she has a 27" monitor for that.

Rule of thumb: items that have "done well" don't go on sale months after being released. Third party retailers began knocking hundreds off the MSRP not long after launch, something that not too long ago was unthinkable for an Apple product. Will we see an upgrade this year? I don't know. Aside from adopting the screen currently found on the 9.7" model and moving to a new A10X processor, what else could they do at this point? The new screen would be nice, but as I mentioned earlier, current apps have yet to push the A9X anywhere near it's limits, so where's the benefit of upgrading to the A10X?
 
It has done well enough for it to become preferred in some business settings. The latest in medical software seems perfect for it.

but given that businesses don't update for years, they probably sold all the potential iPad sales so next year sales will drop extremely. Plus, if you are a business isn't Surface a better option given its more capable!?
 
I've got the thing and it is way too big. It's heavy, kind of clunky, and doesn't do a whole lot more than my phone. It's quite possibly my worst Apple purchase of all time (and I've owned a G4 Cube). That said, I'd probably change my tune if iOS were optimized to accommodate the hardware in some way. And I'd I'm not being picky here. I'd take anything, really - additional multitasking options, bluetooth mouse support, a file system, whatever. It just needs something to justify the "Pro" moniker besides the Apple Pencil (which isn't even included with the device!).
I wish they'd unveil an iPad with the same 1536px height, but a wider aspect ratio for professionals. We don't need a giant square, we need room in apps for toolbars, property and layer panels so we can have room in the center to see all of what we're working on. 4:3 doesn't work well for Pros, especially since most of us are designing content for widescreen viewports from mobile up to desktop. So how much sense does it make to use a 4:3 display to design for 16:9? 2734 x 1536 would be a great place to start. Apple has built some responsive tools into Xcode to scale apps, so it wouldn't be that crazy to extend the UI out from center when held in landscape. It would be like optimizing apps for iPhone 5 when they only changed in one direction and kept the same density.

And when it comes down to it, I don't even need a full file system, just a better way to manage projects and the shared resources between them. If Apple can build something better than a file system that simplifies that process, then fine. But until then, a basic file system is still the best solution. I hope they're at least taking their time to design something better and not just flat out refusing to acknowledge the issue. I tend to think they're not dumb so hopefully this is like copy/paste and they just have to work it out. But until then it's nearly impossible to do things such as design for the web on iOS, especially if you're a full stack designer/developer such as myself. However, some things have gotten much better. For instance, Lightroom Mobile now supports full-res RAW import which I am over the moon about. And the Apple Pencil is the best tablet drawing device around, so I can still use it to make sketches, wireframes, and even more professional looking drawings and paintings when I eventually buy a Pro.

So at best, currently, the iPad Pro is an expensive accessory to the Mac for the professional user for most purposes. Lightroom is beginning to call that into question, but you still can't color calibrate your display on the iPad and I'm not sure how well you can setup high-quality large printers to use with the iPad. I know the newer versions of my Canon Pro 9000 MkII now have AirPrint but I doubt they have many advanced print options you can set, unless maybe one needs to download a specific app from Canon or something. But for me with RAW import and gradient adjustments, I can do 90% of the work on my iPad and do final color work, brush adjustments and prepare for print on my MacBook Pro.

I'd be happy with the iPad Pro if I could do even 80% of my total work on it, but right now it's maybe 50% if I'm being generous. It can handle about 80% of the typical work I do while at home (excluding freelance), but it does much of it much slower than when I just get on my Mac. And it doesn't really have to do with speed but software limitations in both iOS and third party apps that just aren't at that same level of polish yet. Being frustrated with the iPad for years (while also loving it, I get frustrated at the lost potential) has really made me appreciate my MacBook Pro even more because it just does whatever I need it to and doesn't complain or resist. I'd really like to get the small MacBook, but that can fold around flat and supports drawing with the Apple Pencil. I'd spend a pretty penny on that! I'm also hesitant to buy a machine that maxes out at 8GB RAM soldered onto the motherboard when my current four year old MacBook Pro has 16GB. I'd pay for more if Apple offered it! Perhaps the best bet is a MacBook + 5K iMac and sell my old MBP and not even fool around with upgrading my iPad Air 2, which is still going strong without issue.
 
For all those thinking this 12GB "iPad Pro" is going to be a shipping consumer model, it is assuredly not. I am of the very strong opinion that amount is specific to a unit designed for testing and development as they only need enough space to hold some apps and content.
 
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