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Why Google wants to push them so hard?
So at the end, these devices are just complementary to each ecosystem and target specific niches.
 
A power hungry young guy at Apple will copy some part of this, and Tim will praise him. Next year, young guy will possibly try recommending something else, and get another praise. Then their head will swell, and they leave to start their own company. Years later, they are a janitor, wondering what went wrong.
Interesting.
Is this something that happened to you or someone you know?
Pssst: The password is...Tony Fadell
 
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Nobody wants a round Apple Watch. The current design is pure perfection.

I think a lot of people want a round Apple Watch. I'm one of them. I find it more "classy"... and Apple already patented it, so for sure they are exploring this possibility.
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Well, LOL, you're right :D
 
Have Android watches fixed the flat tire issue yet? Serious question.
Android watches never had a flat tire issue. Motorola watches had a flat tire issue. Last I checked, the Moto 360 didn't encompass the entirety of Android watches. Lemme check again. brb. Nope still don't.:D:p

I personally don't have a use for smartwatches, but if I jump in that arena it's probably going to be with a Gear S3. Ironically running Tizen and not Android wear. It actually looks good to me and that bezel navigation is pretty slick.
 
Nobody wants a round Apple Watch. The current design is pure perfection.

Then my name is nobody, I guess. I gave my son - an Apple addict - a round Huawei Watch this fall. He's very happy with the design but not too happy about the difficulty to get apps onto the watch: only possible with sideloading - Android Wear 2.0 appears to overcome this. He wears the watch almost daily. Having my son as a (happy) smartwatch guineapig, I still haven't found any reason to buy myself a smartwatch. Regarding the looks: I by far prefer round watches over square watches.
 
Nobody wants a round Apple Watch. The current design is pure perfection.
Lol, a square watch face is perfection? Really. If the design had been round from day one you would. Have said that was perfection. All that wasted real estate. Sorry old boy but you are so far up apples back passage your opinion is completely invalidated. As you praise to the heavens whatever. They do, good or bad.
Small tip ,they work so much better as a watch with added on bits, than trying to get them to be a small phone screen.
 
Wearables just seem like a waste of money to me but then again I've never owned one. Probably because I just keep thinking they are too expensive, a waste of money with poor battery life. Bit of a catch 22 I guess.

Kinda like how I feel all these nfc pay options are a waste of time and exposure with tap to pay debit and credit cards. (at least until you don't need to carry a wallet for ID and other things which is still a long way off). Or why would I want a more restrictive tablet with an awkward form factor vs using a laptop/macbook that is more powerful and easier to put on surfaces (pun not intended).

I guess a wearable that has GPS to track my runs and that has music with BT audio on it would be useful but not worth the $'s in my mind. Well at least not apple watch $$.

Maybe I'm crazy but smart phone + laptop serves my needs just fine.
 
Pretty much nobody wanted a large screen iPhone until Apple made one, even Apple said a large phone was wrong.
Pretty much nobody wanted an OLED screen iPhone either (until next year) ;)
I disagree. Apple made lPhone 6 and 6+ in response to everyone liking the larger android phones. Again Apple will be making OLED in response to android already having it. As usual, Apple is reacting instead of innovating. BTW I have both iPhone 7 and Samsung Galaxy S7. S7 OLED is far superior!
 
The only reason that I see to wear a watch is to train for triathlons. It has to be able to go in all types of water, have a 12 hour battery, and use GPS without an iPhone.

Garmin seems like it would be the biggest competitor instead of a inferior Android copy.
 
Not going to lie. Moto 360 paired with Pixel beats Apple Watch with iPhone 7 Plus. But moto 360 with iPhone 7 Plus sucks big time. I would use that combo only if Google gets the app working correctly. Or it could just be Apple screwing Google, I don't know at this point.
 
I had an iPhone and apple watch... both from launch in both instances.... until September when I got a Google pixel, and a Samsung S2 Gear watch... the watch is so much user friendly that my apple watch, and I love how my phone is customised to only show the stuff I need.
 
Hmm may be cool to see what it does. That Casio watch has an interface like something from a SciFy film! Very cool, I like the Nixon too. Shame the best budget watch, the Sony smart watch 3 isn't getting it, but the Moto 360 Sport is cool and cheap enough.

I still like the Apple Watch though and would prefer that.
 
Nobody wants a round Apple Watch. The current design is pure perfection.

Instead of always praising everything Apple does, try looking around. Plenty of people want a round Apple Watch.

To me, the current design is like a boring 1980s wrist computer style. It's not exciting or very attractive. It's simply safe and non-offensive. The only thing that saves it are the bands.

Heck, the Apple Watch is supposed to be about fashion. If so, then it should be noted that about 90% of wristwatches sold today are round.

Sooner or later, when sales drop low enough, I'd bet we see a round Apple version. Same as happened with larger phones and smaller tablets.
 
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Android Wear is already a dead platform. I'm all in on Apple Watch, as are the devs.
I bet after the first few models are released, there will be a blow out sale on the ones later released by Samsung.
I'll save for the Apple Watch Series 3.
And why should I care?
Nobody wants a round Apple Watch. The current design is pure perfection.
These posts are hilarious. If a forum could be diagnosed with bi-polar disorder, this would be the one. On one hand you have the "fire timmy" crowd (fired up by new reports of absolutely pathetic battery life on brand new multi-thousand dollar computers, stale design [except for retail storefronts of course], a mac pro which hasn't been updated in >1000 days [lololol], a thick square overpriced iwatch which barely justifies the upgrade, and old overpriced desktop imacs still up for sale) and on the other hand you have these zealots, frothing at the mouth to empty their wallets at the hint of the next lackluster refresh. It truly is fun to come here for the comments. It's like watching children fight over old toys. :p
 
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A power hungry young guy at Apple will copy some part of this, and Tim will praise him. Next year, young guy will possibly try recommending something else, and get another praise. Then their head will swell, and they leave to start their own company. Years later, they are a janitor, wondering what went wrong.

Ahaha, is that so?

Android Wear 2.0 major new features are:

1. Stand-alone Apps (introduced in watchOS 2.0.0 -- September/2015)
2. Watch complications (introduced in watchOS 1.0.0 -- March/2015)
3. Smart reply (introduced in watchOS 1.0.0 -- March/2015)
4. Fitness App (introduced in watchOS 1.0.0 -- March/2015)

Android Wear is only introducing 2015 watchOS features in 2017! Ridiculous! Not to mention they were promised this Google I/O back in May!

Now, tell us what does Apple need to copy?
 
Instead of always praising everything Apple does, try looking around. Plenty of people want a round Apple Watch.
Plenty of people also want an iPad running macOS, or Apple to create a netbook, or for Apple to make the equivalent of the Surface Studio.

I just don't see that happening, for reasons stated below.

To me, the current design is like a boring 1980s wrist computer style. It's not exciting or very attractive. It's simply safe and non-offensive. The only thing that saves it are the bands.
How would a square watch design be considered safe when, as per your assertion below, 90% of watches sport a round design?

Heck, the Apple Watch is supposed to be about fashion. If so, then it should be noted that about 90% of wristwatches sold today are round.
I feel that the Apple Watch currently represents the best compromise of form and function.

It makes sense that a wristwatch be round when it's only function is to tell time. Not so much when an Apple Watch does so much more.

I look at everything I am currently doing on my Apple Watch and every single task would be objectively worse on a round display. Viewing notifications, retrieving 1Password and 2FA codes. Using Apple Pay. A square display maximises the amount of viewable screen space and allows me to read said info quickly and efficiently.

Sooner or later, when sales drop low enough, I'd bet we see a round Apple version. Same as happened with larger phones and smaller tablets.

I predict that sooner rather than later, we will look at round Apple Watches the same way we view physical keyboards on smartphones. We will laugh at ourselves and wonder what possessed us to even entertain such a silly notion in the first place.
 
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How would a square watch design be considered safe when, as per your assertion below, 90% of watches sport a round design?

The square is safe because it's easy to program for. But that's not what I meant by safe.

I was referring to the overall shape and style. As I've pointed out previously, Ive took what had worked for him before and basically repeated it:

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A lot of people were hoping for something more elegant or futuristic. Remember these popular iWatch concepts?

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I look at everything I am currently doing on my Apple Watch and every single task would be objectively worse on a round display. Viewing notifications, retrieving 1Password and 2FA codes. Using Apple Pay.

I've used both square and round a lot. Not really any difference to me as far as usefulness.

The biggest difference is that the round ones look more stylish to me, and they get a lot more attention from other people interested in smartwatches.

A square display maximises the amount of viewable screen space and allows me to read said info quickly and efficiently.

The trouble with that argument is twofold:

1. If you actually believe that's the only purpose, then why not get something that REALLY maximizes your viewable screen space, like:

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2. The faux problem about more scrolling or screen size, falls apart when you realize that the smaller Apple Watch has the same "problem" when compared to its bigger brother.

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Yet that hasn't stopped millions of people from buying the smaller version.

This is just like the nonsense that we heard over and over again about larger phones, smaller tablets, pen support, and you name it, that diehard Apple fans dissed right up until Apple did them.
 
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The square is safe because it's easy to program for. But that's not what I meant by safe.

[]I was referring to the overall shape and style. As I've pointed out before, Ive took what had worked for him before and basically repeated it:

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I admit I have never seen the Apple Watch as a shrunken down iPhones, design wise. I guess I see your point. Not sure what to make of it.

A lot of people were hoping for something more elegant or futuristic. Remember these popular concepts?

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I didn't like them then, and I still don't like them now.

I've used both square and round a lot. Not really any difference to me as far as usefulness.

The biggest difference is that the round ones look more stylish to me, and they get a lot more attention from other people interested in smartwatches.
We will have to agree to disagree here then.

I have lost count of how many people have asked me whether my pebble watch (which has a squarish display) was an Apple Watch.

The trouble with that argument is twofold:

1. If you actually believe that's the only purpose, then why not get something that REALLY maximizes your viewable screen space, like:

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Why not carry an 8” smartphone with you? Why aren't 17" gaming laptops more popular?

A watch has to be wearable first and foremost. For such a personal device, you need to get the design and form factor right first before we talk about functionality and features. Else, it will be all for naught if people don't want to wear your product. And I don't people want what is essentially a giant screen strapped to their wrist.

I feel the Apple Watch is a good size for my wrist, and Apple has done an admirable job cramming all that functionality into such a small form factor.

I am not going to be caught dead with an abomination like that on my wrist.

2. The faux problem about more scrolling or screen size, falls apart when you realize that the smaller Apple Watch has the same "problem" when compared to its bigger brother.

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See above.

For a product like a smartwatch, people worry about looks first, then functionality, not the other way around.

Yet that hasn't stopped millions of people from buying the smaller version.
That's because they have a smaller wrist and the smaller Apple Watch looks better on their wrists.

Which brings me back to my earlier point. People want a product which works great and more importantly, look great.

This is just like the nonsense that we heard over and over again about larger phones, smaller tablets, pen support, and you name it, that diehard Apple fans dissed right up until Apple did them.
I might be wrong and Apple may well release a round watch next year. I still don't think it's likely. We can only wait and see, I suppose.
 
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