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first benchmark of the iPhone 6 and.....
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Don't forget that although the performance boost is meager, they are cutting the power consumption 50% and that's a huge breakthrough.
That just it nobody knows yet how well the battery going to be, Apple can chuck figures about till they blue in the face, but everybody uses their phone differently.
I can charge my 5S early in the morning goto work at night and still have over 60% battery left by the next morning when i come home, and i use my phone quite frequently during the night aswell.
Now what i don't do is game or watch movies, which would decrease the battery alot quicker granted.
But there no saying the iPhone 6 will last that much longer than the 5S when your gaming or watching movies, so where yo say you have to charge your phone half though the day, you still may not see a day out of your battery on the iPhone 6.
I can charge my 5S early in the morning goto work at night and still have over 60% battery left by the next morning when i come home, and i use my phone quite frequently during the night aswell.
Now what i don't do is game or watch movies, which would decrease the battery alot quicker granted.
But there no saying the iPhone 6 will last that much longer than the 5S when your gaming or watching movies, so where yo say you have to charge your phone half though the day, you still may not see a day out of your battery on the iPhone 6.
Processing speed on a phone is so far down on my list of priorities that I not only find benchmarking test useless but real world performance indistinguishable from previous version of the iPhone and competing smart phones.
If that benchmark was slower then the 5S it would not effect my buying decision.
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And the battery performance increase listed by Apple were meager. A lot of good that breakthrough did huh?
If that benchmark was slower then the 5S it would not effect my buying decision.
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And the battery performance increase listed by Apple were meager. A lot of good that breakthrough did huh?
Benchmarks don't tell the whole story. Many Android phones perform better on these benchmarks. Why? Because some of those phones are designed to perform well ON BENCHMARKS. They are trying to appeal to the buyers who think benchmarks are more important than actual real world usage. Meanwhile, actually using one of them vs. an iPhone, the difference is immediate. Android can feel sluggish, like it's hesitating when swiping or opening a new app, etc.
The other issue is that Apple is often ahead of the curve with things like Metal, which lets designers program more tightly to the graphics processor. Does the benchmark know how to utilize that technology and fully test the possible improvements? I seriously doubt it. But you can bet that some of the high-end game developers will be squeezing ridiculous performance out of it in the months to come, and the end user experience will be much better than on those devices that are supposedly beating the iPhone on the benchmarks.
iPhones also consistently outperform many other models on battery life, despite the fact that those other models sometimes have a much larger battery! Why? because Apple designs the hardware and the software, and tweaks one to help the other.
Lastly, don't forget that the thinness of the new iPhone is really impressive given increased battery life and increased performance. I KNOW WHAT PEOPLE WILL SAY. That Apple didn't need to make it thinner, and I actually partly agree with this, but you still have to consider they are managing to squeeze so much improvement and STILL make it significantly thinner. It's not the tradeoff I might have made, but it's a factor.
The other issue is that Apple is often ahead of the curve with things like Metal, which lets designers program more tightly to the graphics processor. Does the benchmark know how to utilize that technology and fully test the possible improvements? I seriously doubt it. But you can bet that some of the high-end game developers will be squeezing ridiculous performance out of it in the months to come, and the end user experience will be much better than on those devices that are supposedly beating the iPhone on the benchmarks.
iPhones also consistently outperform many other models on battery life, despite the fact that those other models sometimes have a much larger battery! Why? because Apple designs the hardware and the software, and tweaks one to help the other.
Lastly, don't forget that the thinness of the new iPhone is really impressive given increased battery life and increased performance. I KNOW WHAT PEOPLE WILL SAY. That Apple didn't need to make it thinner, and I actually partly agree with this, but you still have to consider they are managing to squeeze so much improvement and STILL make it significantly thinner. It's not the tradeoff I might have made, but it's a factor.
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You know what crack me up with some people on here Apple chuck out figures ect like 50% increase in GPU performance and 50% battery efficiency ect and you believe it like it's gospel, where in truth you get nowhere near these figures they give out.
Don't get me wrong i'm a big fan of Apple products, but i take everything Apple says with a pinch of salt.
Don't get me wrong i'm a big fan of Apple products, but i take everything Apple says with a pinch of salt.
I remember reading on the forum here last night some people were worried about lag on the 6 Plus because it was actually rendering a 3x Retina image at a higher point resolution so the iPhone actually has to downscale the image before showing it on the display. As far as I can tell, it doesn't make much of a difference on the 6 Plus because of the fact that it probably has a different A8 then the 6 4.7".
The A7 in the iPad Air is actually more closely related to the former AxX series chips (A6X, A5X) in terms of the way the SoC was laid out internally (the "X" series actually had quad core graphics, the A7 is dual core). The relocation of the RAM and a few other things (including a 100MHz boost) actually sped the chip up quite a bit. The A7 in the iPad Air even has a heat spreader because it runs hotter like the X series chips
You want to look at the performance of the iPad mini Retina really. Why? Same resolution display as the iPad Air (2048x1536) in a smaller package using the iPhone 5ses A7.
The real question is, which SoC does the 5.5" model have? It could be slightly different then the 4.7". In fact I have heard the SoC package for the Plus is going to include 2GB for this particular issue. Is it true? No idea. I guess we will find out in a week. If this is true, expect the A8 in the Plus to be an advancement of the A7 found in the Air versus the one in the iPhone 5s.
Who's benchmarks are these and why in the hell do you treat them as gospel? Who has the finished iPhone 6, running the GM, and a set of tools that accurately depicts performance?
No one claimed doubling of the GPU, I said nearly, given apple is citing 84x improvement over the first iPhone vs the 5s which was 58x.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/apple-iphone-6-gpu-benchmarks,news-48820.html
Tomshardware as also picked up on this aswell.
Tomshardware as also picked up on this aswell.
The processor isn't the only thing contributing to the power consumption, you can't forget about the increase in screen, backlighting, wireless antennae's and their respective processor, as well as all the ambient sensing technology like the M8 chip, accelerometer, barometer, gyroscope, etc.
So although yes, the battery life didn't increase by 50%, one of the major contributors has allowed faster computing than the previous generation, with drastically less power consumption from that individual piece. For this sort of update after a year, I consider this a breakthrough, yes.
And my iPhone 4 isn't even on the list...
At this point, I don't care. I'm going to enjoy my iPhone 6 for 3-4 years.
At this point, I don't care. I'm going to enjoy my iPhone 6 for 3-4 years.
Pretty much. It's like people who can't figure out whether to get a i7-3770 or an i5-3570 to run Microsoft Word.
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Pretty true. Why does processing speed matter as long as all your applications can run smoothly? I own an iPhone 4 and the apps which I use still run well on it. And the processor is 8 times weaker than the iP5S.
How did they even get these benchmarks? How did they get a phone to run them?
Apple claimed a 50% increase in GPU, that is still a pretty big leap... 1.5x 5s.
The CPU increase is probably going to be nothing.... the 5s is still the leader against all other competitors in single core performance, which is unlikly to change anytime soon.
I will wait for the anantech review.
Apple claimed a 50% increase in GPU, that is still a pretty big leap... 1.5x 5s.
The CPU increase is probably going to be nothing.... the 5s is still the leader against all other competitors in single core performance, which is unlikly to change anytime soon.
I will wait for the anantech review.
While what you say is true and I agree with it that all ends up being a useless benchmark. In the end I'm charging a phone just as often, only difference is I have even more features turned off. It great the iPhone has most of the hardware the competition has, now it just needs the battery to match.
Barometer is bolded, not sure why. My nearly 4 year old Motorola Xoom has a Bosch 2 or 3 gen pressure sensor (barometer) and even back then the power usage wasn't measurable.
Meh I think we have reached a plateau with phone performance, and honestly I don't care.
Even the iphone 5 was fast enough that I never felt like it needed more speed. Give me more battery over speed any day. I don't need a ps4 in my pocket, and I'm not trying to run auto cad on my phone. I have computers at home that can do the heavy lifting. Priority ! for me is my phone lasting me as long as possible, while still providing a smooth experience.
What do you guys do with your phones that need laptop level specs?
Even the iphone 5 was fast enough that I never felt like it needed more speed. Give me more battery over speed any day. I don't need a ps4 in my pocket, and I'm not trying to run auto cad on my phone. I have computers at home that can do the heavy lifting. Priority ! for me is my phone lasting me as long as possible, while still providing a smooth experience.
What do you guys do with your phones that need laptop level specs?
There's been three pages of gullible back-and-forth. The first question should be - who is behind that website? I've never heard of them. How did they get their hands on an unreleased iPhone? What credibility anyone can assign to their claims? Anyone can claim anything on the internet...
We already know it's NOT the same GPU as the one in the A7.
The A8 GPU supports ASTC.
https://developer.apple.com/library....html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40014221-CH8-SW11
I would take ANY benchmark right now with a huge grain of salt until the phone is in the hands of reviewers/public.
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It remains to be seen how the 6+ deals with the resolution downscaling from the (3X) 2208x1242 to the real, hardware-determined screen resolution of 1920x1080 pixels. It could be a huge tax on the GPU performance, we just don't know it yet. I remember very well what Apple did with the iPad 3 and its non-capable-for-retina GPU.
I know that using a non-retina resolution on my rMacBook Pro causes visible slowdowns on some apps.
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It's the endless race of mind-altering consumerism. Everything is so out of proportion now. 100 inches TVs, 700 hp+ Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat cars, 500+ TV channels, 256+ GB music players... This can't stop or this version of global economics is going to melt down in an instant.
The problem here is that you're comparing two different leaps: the 5 to the 5s is a leap from 32 bit to 64 bit, which in itself brings a gigantic leap in performance. You're not gonna get a leap like that again until computing goes 128-bit.
The A8 is probably a lot like how Broadwell Intel CPUs are going to be to Haswell: only slightly better raw performance, more focused on energy efficiency.
Besides, what will you be doing on your iPhone anyway that demands a huge CPU leap? Mining bitcoin?
Not the same CPU, GPU - Apple said ~ 2 billion transistors, which is twice as much as in A7.
P.S. And Anandtech already predicted that it might be GX6650 GPU in there:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8514/analyzing-apples-a8-soc-gx6650-more
Also recall Phil Schiller specifically talking about how they designed the A8 and iPhone 6 to not throttle CPU over time as almost all phones currently do (including all previous iPhones). These benchmark results are likely taken within the initial burst period before throttling takes place (though I don't know that for sure). If so, the 6 might (should) have a higher sustained performance where other phones will drop off after a few minutes because of thermal constraints.
I don't know any difference also. I had the 5, 5c, and now 5s and I haven't noticed any difference.
Maybe on paper, I don't see it.