First Benchmarks for MacBook Pro With New Radeon Pro Vega Graphics Surface

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Apple last week introduced new upgrade options for the high-end 15-inch MacBook Pro, allowing customers to add Radeon Pro Vega 16 and 20 graphics cards to the device for superior graphics performance.

    Benchmarks for the 15-inch MacBook Pro models equipped with the Radeon Pro Vega 20 option have been shared by a MacRumors reader, giving us an idea of the performance improvements over 15-inch MacBook Pro models with the standard Radeon Pro 560X graphics card that was previously the highest-end option available.


    The machine, which includes a 2.6GHz Core i7 Intel processor, a Radeon Pro Vega 20 graphics card, 16GB RAM, and a 1TB SSD, earned an OpenCL score of 72799. Additional benchmarks found on Geekbench with a similar machine using an upgraded Core i9 processor demonstrated OpenCL scores of 75817, 76017, and 80002.

    In a separate benchmark uploaded to Geekbench, the new high-end MacBook Pro with Core i9 processor also earned a Metal score of 73953.

    Comparatively, machines with similar specs and Radeon Pro 560X graphics cards on Geekbench earned maximum OpenCL scores of right around 65000 and Metal scores of approximately 57000, suggesting much higher graphics performance with the new Radeon Pro Vega 20 card.

    At the current time, benchmarks are only available for the higher-end Radeon Pro Vega 20 card, with no data available for the Radeon Pro Vega 16 card. CPU benchmarks on Geekbench between machines using the new cards and the existing cards are similar because there have been no changes to the CPU.

    The new Radeon Pro Vega graphics cards can only be added to the high-end 15-inch MacBook Pro model, which starts at $2,799. The Radeon Pro Vega 16 costs an additional $250, while the Radeon Pro Vega 20 costs an additional $350.

    Article Link: First Benchmarks for MacBook Pro With New Radeon Pro Vega Graphics Surface
  2. BuCkDoG macrumors 6502

    Jun 13, 2013
    This is awesome! I might actually upgrade from my 2012 model!
  3. Squirrelxb macrumors newbie

    Jun 12, 2009
    Oh that's the OpenCL score, I thought it was the price.
  4. jiggad369 macrumors regular


    Mar 21, 2016
  5. noraa macrumors regular

    Jun 23, 2003
    Damn, I really wish the Vega was an option when I bought my machine back in August :p
  6. Larvas macrumors member


    May 15, 2014
  7. tomscott1988, Nov 20, 2018
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2018

    tomscott1988 macrumors 6502a


    Apr 14, 2009
    Wow... a 10% increase for £315 more...

    These should be direct replacements not £315 upgrades. These MacBook pros are getting so expensive its ridiculous that even a mid range option is in the £4000 region. Then add another £399 for AppleCare.

    Plus once you have the CPU and these GPUs pinned the likely hood is they will perform far far less than their potential with the poor cooling so whats the point.
  8. Glideslope macrumors 603


    Dec 7, 2007
    A quiet place in NY.
    Impressive. Let’s wait to see the internal temps in these wonder machines. No need to fry eggs on your MBP. ;)
  9. giggles macrumors 6502

    Dec 15, 2012
    But can the MBP with Vega replace your computer?
  10. tromboneaholic macrumors 68040


    Jun 9, 2004
    Clearwater, FL
    I'm actually impressed by the Metal score considering Adobe seems to be adding more support for it.
  11. oneMadRssn macrumors 601


    Sep 8, 2011
    New England
    Ugh! All the non-Vega MBPs purchased over the last few months are now worthless. Might as well throw them on ebay for $1 ...

    ... so I can buy it.
  12. tromboneaholic macrumors 68040


    Jun 9, 2004
    Clearwater, FL
    When time is money, the speed increase can quickly pay for itself.
  13. AppleHaterLover macrumors 6502a

    Jun 15, 2018
    Holy hell!!!!!! I don't think anyone can complain about performance on the MBP anymore (for the time being)

    Honest question (I have very little knowledge on high performance laptops): how's the Apple Tax on these high-end 15" MBPs? Are they comparable to similarly-specced Windows laptops? Are they worth the extra price?
  14. Mythos99 macrumors member

    May 24, 2016
    I think it's more than 10%. I got an i9, with 32GB Ram, RX560X, and i get an OpenCL Score of 60.000, with Vega i would get 75.000-80.000, that would be like 25%-30% increase.
  15. miniroll32 macrumors 65816


    Mar 28, 2010
    Yes but can it keep your coffee warm?
  16. AppleMad98004 macrumors 6502

    Aug 23, 2011
    Cylde Hill, WA
    Yes for professionals the speed will add up over a months time to higher productivity and billings.
  17. AppleHaterLover macrumors 6502a

    Jun 15, 2018
    Next time around, I'll start some "new MBPs are throttling" and "this sucks" threads myself to destroy resale values on the things and get them for cheap. Genius strategy, really.
  18. Appurushido macrumors regular

    Sep 28, 2012
  19. Darmok N Jalad macrumors 65816

    Darmok N Jalad

    Sep 26, 2017
    That’s just for OpenCL. The Metal bench looks like a 30% increase, if I read that right. There’s only so much power they can cram into a notebook, even if the MBP were thicker. A mobile GeForce would likely be the better option, but Apple sure seems to take issue with Nvidia.
  20. gaspitsjesse macrumors newbie

    Aug 5, 2013
    I will gladly by your obsolete MBP for one dollar.
  21. run1976 macrumors member

    Feb 4, 2010
    Or you just want a smooth running 15 inch notebook and suddenly it becomes ridiculous. In Germany the cheapest 15 inch macbook Apple sells costs just over 3000$. The new graphics card version starts at 4200$. My 2010 Macbook Pro with upgraded screen, Ram cost less than 2000$. Inflation is a b...

    Still nice Apple offers these to whomever wants to afford them.
  22. antondonovan macrumors newbie

    Jul 29, 2016
    They sure can, just because it's a performance improvement over it's predecessor doesn't mean it's beating competitors.
  23. mi7chy macrumors 601


    Oct 24, 2014
    Instead of synthetic benchmarks how about real world performance like AAA games, Hashcat OpenCL, etc.?
  24. ChrisMoBro macrumors regular


    Oct 31, 2016
    My PC cost £2000 (i9 9990k & 980ti) and the OpenCL score was over 120,000 ;)
  25. tomscott1988 macrumors 6502a


    Apr 14, 2009
    10% is using the stats provided do the math. 72799 over 65000 is 10.7%

    Is it tho? How often are people rendering more than 10 min vids on the go... I doubt many most will do heavy lifting at the desk. For the difference in price you might as well get a 555X or 560X and buy a EGPU enclosure for £200 and a 580 for £200 and for the £85 difference get much faster performance.

    The 580 8gb in my Mac Pro benches 143000.

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