Earlier everyone said it would be 60% faster than the 560x. Now it's only 10.7% faster? That's not very encouraging.
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First Benchmarks for MacBook Pro With New Radeon Pro Vega Graphics Surface
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Hi, I used a Sonnet eGPU box, any thunderbolt 3 eGPU box works fine.
With OSX the best GPU's to use are AMD 500 series or AMD Vega because there is no need for any additional drivers.
With Windows there is some additional set up that needs to be done to make bootcamp work with eGPU in all cases, you can find guides on egpu.io.
Thunderbolt 3 does not have as much bandwidth as PCI-EX 16 so there is a performance hit vs a traditional desktop, usually between 5%-20% depending on which graphics card you are using, however the convenience of a plug + play graphics card for a small notebook vs a desktop makes this worthwhile for some...
I have attached a picture of my set up, 2 x 1080p 144hz monitors and Vega 64 for your viewing pleasure.
You did benchmarks. That is not real world use. Please fire up some games or run Cinebench a few times in a row while monitoring the cpu/gpu temps, frequency, volts.
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Why would they need a redesign? Just upgrade the chip and start adding it to the production line.
Pretty sure those issues have been resolved anyway. Had mine for about a month and haven’t experienced a single panic.
The board in the new Vega models is different than the one in the previos 2018 MBP. So the fact still remains that Apple could have fixed it in this update.
Smooth Camera Raw video playback in a Premiere Pro timeline is not a benchmark. It's a real-world use for a MacBook Pro.
Do you know what the word "benchmark" means, or did you reply to the wrong person?
52,499 for i9 2.9 with 560x to the 71,937 with the Vega 20. I'd say that is a nice jump.
82% faster in the gaming performance and the temps are down! Dang! This maybe the one!
82% faster in the gaming performance and the temps are down! Dang! This maybe the one!
I think that most people have not experienced one but if you look at the T2 Bridge OS thread, people with new 2018 MacBook Pros are still experiencing them.
Seems you don't since you had multiple people telling you the same thing. We will rely on these videos like the one posted above which provided us the info that was needed. Once they do some FPS in games like the 82% increase that was seen in the one game, we will really have our data.
I highly doubt it. The mini likely does not have the space to accommodate a dedicated GPU. That said, you can go the eGPU route with the mini. It will probably cost more and require more space, but you’ll be able to use 250W+ GPUs that will be far more powerful than a mobile Vega 20. The only way they could maybe pull it off is to get Intel to make a custom i7+Vega chip, but that may be a long shot.
These are the sort of GPUs that should’ve been in the MacBook Pros since 2016 and definitely 2017. AMD has been doing a lot of catchup.
I still think Apple should’ve delayed shipping the 2018 MBP until the Vega 16s and 20s were ready. I’ve already argued about this a bunch so I don’t want to start again but the fact is that those who bought the 2018s before now thinking that nothing would change until next year got a raw deal.
Some can say but these GPUs cost hundreds more and I say sure but those who were buying high-end BTO 15” machines would’ve gladly paid the extra $300.
I still think Apple should’ve delayed shipping the 2018 MBP until the Vega 16s and 20s were ready. I’ve already argued about this a bunch so I don’t want to start again but the fact is that those who bought the 2018s before now thinking that nothing would change until next year got a raw deal.
Some can say but these GPUs cost hundreds more and I say sure but those who were buying high-end BTO 15” machines would’ve gladly paid the extra $300.
Agreed. Any time I order a machine, I always max out the video before anything else.
The big MacBook Pro upgrade will be in 2019 with AMD Vega plus Intel 10nm or AMD 7nm CPU.
Hopefully. If Intel doesn’t hit more roadblocks. I have faith but I wouldn’t bet my life on it!
At the AMD site AMD states the pro Vega 20 isn't suitable for gaming it is for enterprise only. Their words not mine
Wishful thinking....but I don't think it'll happen the way Intel has been lately.
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I agree that the Vega wasn't designed to help with gaming, but it is still a improvement over the 560x in games as seen in that test he ran in the video.
The Nvidia Titan cards are meant for deep learning, not gaming, but they've always been faster in games than the Geforce cards, until Nvidia relases the Ti flagships for one third, or half the price.
It does look a considerable healthy gain though on Max's test with the Vega 20 over the 560X. I am definitely going to be watching the other videos to see the raw performance but the Unigen Heavens bench was very impressive.
I’ve been hooked on AdoredTV‘s tech videos (on YouTube) since watching his 1hr epic dissection of Nvidia’s history in the graphics market (Nvidia - Anti-Competitive, Anti-Consumer, Anti-Technology). Why this is relevant is he actually mentions Apple ever so briefly, so I thought this might shed some light on why Apple might have issues with Nvidia as a supply partner. Note: You’ll have to skip back a bit to understand the context, but it’s well worth watching in it’s entirety if you like these sort of deep dives
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Now waiting to see what Apple does on the black friday deals...then I'll jump. Still have that iMac Pro calling my name though for the same cost....hmm