First Benchmarks for MacBook Pro With New Radeon Pro Vega Graphics Surface

[redheeler]

Wow... a 10% increase for £315 more...

These should be direct replacements not £315 upgrades. These MacBook pros are getting so expensive its ridiculous that even a mid range option is in the £4000 region. Then add another £399 for AppleCare.

Plus once you have the CPU and these GPUs pinned the likely hood is they will perform far far less than their potential with the poor cooling so whats the point.

The problem is that the 2018 555X / 560X models came out last July, less than six months ago. I can imagine current 2018 MBP owners being upset over something better available at the same price less than six months after their MBP was released.

Making Vega GPUs standard is something Apple should do with the 2019 models.

 

[tromboneaholic]

Instead of synthetic benchmarks how about real world performance like AAA games, Hashcat OpenCL, etc.?

Working with Canon Raw video files in Premiere Pro will be the first test I care about. It stutters in Windows, but not on an iMac Pro. I'm interested to see how these MacBooks hold up to the iMac Pro more than I personally care about gaming.
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Is it tho? How often are people rendering more than 10 min vids on the go... I doubt many most will do heavy lifting at the desk. For the difference in price you might as well get a 555X or 560X and buy a EGPU enclosure for £200 and a 580 for £200 and for the £85 difference get much faster performance.

The 580 8gb in my Mac Pro benches 143000.

You'd be surprised how many video productions don't have the budget to bring a cart full of equipment but want to see the dailies.

 

[mi7chy]

Working with Canon Raw video files in Premiere Pro will be the first test I care about. It stutters in Windows, but not on an iMac Pro. I'm interested to see how these MacBooks hold up to the iMac Pro more than I personally care about gaming.

What does a user problem have to do with fully testing the Vega dGPU capabilities?

 

[tromboneaholic]

What does a user problem have to do with fully testing the Vega dGPU capabilities?

I shared a real world use that will test the video cards. Why do you have a problem with that?

 

[MoJoRo]

Okay, but seriously: GPU option in the Mac Mini when?

 

[tomscott1988]

Working with Canon Raw video files in Premiere Pro will be the first test I care about. It stutters in Windows, but not on an iMac Pro. I'm interested to see how these MacBooks hold up to the iMac Pro more than I personally care about gaming.
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You'd be surprised how many video productions don't have the budget to bring a cart full of equipment but want to see the dailies.

Ye sorry 72k just aint worth the money it isn't going to dramatically change render times, talking 10s of seconds not minutes.

When you consider its a £315 upgrade on an already £85 upgraded 560X from 555X then how much is the base 555X worth £150 as a conservative estimate? £550 Your over Vega 56 money and way into Vega 64 territory which can be had for £399 right now on ebuyer.com which is almost triple the performance give or take the 10-15% you loose over TB3.

 

[AppleHaterLover]

Safari feels snappier already

You might be joking, but I have recently bought a 12.9 iPad Pro and all I do on it is browse The web on Safari, listen to music and very occasionally use some Word. I’m sure Apple will find some idiots like me to sell the, hardware they don’t need.

 

[Flabasha]

Working with Canon Raw video files in Premiere Pro will be the first test I care about. It stutters in Windows, but not on an iMac Pro. I'm interested to see how these MacBooks hold up to the iMac Pro more than I personally care about gaming.
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You'd be surprised how many video productions don't have the budget to bring a cart full of equipment but want to see the dailies.

Bingo. I edit Blackmagic RAW video on mine, including on-set. I would kill for realtime playback (My current MBP gets 21fps)...

 

[bitnaut]

I'll stick with my 2010 Mac Pro...thanks!

 

[Cocoi]

I'm one of the people that ordered the Vega 20 w/ maxed out other specs simply because I'll use it as my main heavy lifting workstation when traveling, which I do a lot. If it's a bit faster, great — I'll take the power.

It's useless to compare this to a Mac Pro or an iMac Pro. I can't throw that in my bag. Of course a computer with a 1000W power supply out-paces the prowess of a laptop GPU. Duh.

 

[Coyote2006]

I'm glad that I've ordered my MacMini with the Radeon Pro Vega 20 ...

 

[tromboneaholic]

Ye sorry 72k just aint worth the money it isn't going to dramatically change render times, talking 10s of seconds not minutes.

When you consider its a £315 upgrade on an already £85 upgraded 560X from 555X then how much is the base 555X worth £150 as a conservative estimate? £550 Your over Vega 56 money and way into Vega 64 territory which can be had for £399 right now on ebuyer.com which is almost triple the performance give or take the 10-15% you loose over TB3.

It's not just reduced encoding times. It's being able to edit RAW video without dropping frames during playback - otherwise you have to to re-encode the video. This would potentially eliminate a step.

 

[FrostyF]

Or you just want a smooth running 15 inch notebook and suddenly it becomes ridiculous. In Germany the cheapest 15 inch macbook Apple sells costs just over 3000$. The new graphics card version starts at 4200$. My 2010 Macbook Pro with upgraded screen, Ram cost less than 2000$. Inflation is a b...

Still nice Apple offers these to whomever wants to afford them.

Taxes and duties too. Most people don't seem to realize that the posted price in the US excludes tax. Pretty common for Europe to have 20% sales tax alone.
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My PC cost £2000 (i9 9990k & 980ti) and the OpenCL score was over 120,000

Which 4lb laptop shell did you build it in?

 

[keysofanxiety]

I'll stick with my 2010 Mac Pro...thanks!

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Woah wait, your 19kg desktop tower outperforms a laptop?! How the hell did you manage that?

 

[idontbyte]

Not bad, but my MacBook Pro 13-Inch Late 2016 scores 154870 with my external Vega 64 GPU and the whole system was under $1500... I guess if you need to render whilst on a train it's ideal though.

 

[PCheolsu]

but can it power an oculus through windows boot camp?

 

[tromboneaholic]

but can it power an oculus through windows boot camp?

All 4 of you are waiting to know.

 

[Plutonius]

Next time around, I'll start some "new MBPs are throttling" and "this sucks" threads myself to destroy resale values on the things and get them for cheap. Genius strategy, really.

With the T2 Bridge OS issues along with the keyboard issues, I believe the resale demand for the 2018 model will be poor in any case .

 

[tromboneaholic]

With the T2 Bridge OS issues along with the keyboard issues, I believe the resale demand for the 2018 model will be poor in any case .

This looks to have been resolved for MBA. It's just a matter of time until Apple address the few issues that remain, so you are going to have to retire that old song soon.

 

[Plutonius]

Making Vega GPUs standard is something Apple should do with the 2019 models.

Many of us are hoping that the Vega upgrade was just an excuse given by Apple so they can update the 2018 MacBook Pro hardware to address the T2 Bridge OS errors (i.e. a stealth redesign).

 

[Trebuin]

Is this thing so fast that it will catch my backpack on fire when it wakes from sleep mode during transport?

 

[cpnotebook80]

i was looking at pricing and maxed out the specs but kept it at 1 TB. price was $5600 canadian with taxes. for 15" laptop that is with my educational discount

i could go on a cruise, vacation to europe, a month down in south america. lol

 

[cgbru]

Not bad, but my MacBook Pro 13-Inch Late 2016 scores 154870 with my external Vega 64 GPU and the whole system was under $1500... I guess if you need to render whilst on a train it's ideal though.

Hi, total noob when it comes to Apple. But would like to know how you went about setting this up? Did you use the Blackmagic eGPU that's advertised on Apple's website? Or should any GPU enclosure work? In your experience, do you think eGPUs work as well as standard installed GPUs in desktops do? Would really appreciate the help

 

[Plutonius]

This looks to have been resolved for MBA. It's just a matter of time until Apple address the few issues that remain, so you are going to have to retire that old song soon.

I hope so.

The MBA is a different motherboard than the MacBook Pro. Both the MBA and MacBook Pro are running the same code which indicates to me that it's a hardware issue if the MBA has no problems. If it's a hardware issue, the problems will remain with the MacBook Pro until Apple does a design fix. As stated earlier, the Vega update could be a stealth hardware fix by Apple.

 

[idontbyte]

but can it power an oculus through windows boot camp?

Yes