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First Chevy CarPlay Vehicle, 650-HP Corvette Z06, Heading to Dealers
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You can't tease us like that and not provide details
Just an old farm truck lol
2011 Ram 3500 4x4 Dually 6.7 Cummins Diesel with a "few" mods. Not a screamer by any means, but its kinda funny when 9300lb truck will stay along side a Mustang GT or a Hemi Challenger.
The "wound" I was referring to is your blatantly incorrect statements about the technology and performance of Corvettes and Camaros.
The fact is that both of these cars easily beat Japanese and German cars costing nearly double or more in real racetrack racing. Again, you seem to be implying that these cars do not perform on the same level as European or Japanese cars, I have posted numerous lap times that show that these do compete with , if not beat some of the worlds best cars. If you disagree, please feel free to provide some evidence to that effect.
Sounds like his setup still needs work. I'd start with investigating tires and driving habits.
Despite the basic configuration being the same the c5 was signifigantly improved on with the c5z,c6, c6z, c7, c7z, etc.
I have a c5 on c6z struts and sways here with pilot super sport tires, it doesn't plow. The body is a limp noodle though, however that has been addressed in every other variant going forward, including the c5z.
My boat of an ls3 sedan with worse weight distribution than a corvette also has a solid neutral feel with rotation easily induced.
Other than stirring up **** and offering nothing other than anecdotal evidence you still havent given proof to the poor handling of the modern american v8 (dodges are easy pickings here, but not relevant to the thread) or mentioned what awesome mid engines you have.
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I thought you were talking about Apple's Mac product line there for a minute.
Was that QuickTime / iWork / Aperture / Final Cut Pro / iMovie you were mentioning?
Cause Apple was the first to bring out 3G or 4G on any phone? When can I expect wireless charging on my phone? How long did Apple make fun of the absurdly large screen on the Galaxy Note... just to come out with a larger phone a few years later?
While the Mac Pro "style" got better, many others said they are totally disappointed with the direction the function / upgradability took. The workhorse customer / server community hates the new design. But everyone eventually learns to like it and it eventually becomes the norm. That's life... things change.
You could be talking about the banking industry with these comments.
The issue at heart was:
1) Most Americans buy large purchases on credit. Very few people save up enough money to pay 100% of the cost in cash.
2) The largest purchases most people make is a house. (not talking about businesses here)
3) The 2nd largest purchase most people make is a car. (debatable... but mostly true)
When the gas prices shot up (due to nothing but greed across the supply chain... Middle East, Wall St., etc.), inefficient vehicles stopped selling (SUVs, pickups, RVs, etc). That forced the auto plants to have excess capacity. That forced some plants to close. That caused suppliers to shut down. That forced workers to stop paying on their mortgages. That caused banks to foreclose. That caused more people to not buy any cars. That caused......
You can argue that the Big 3 had too much faith on the SUV sales... but that is where the profit was. If you had $100 million to invest, would you put it into a plant that barely broke even (small cars) or would you invest it into a plant that brought you 60% of your profits? Instead of blaming the Big 3, you need to blame the buying habits of the world.
FYI: I drive an SUV too (GMC Acadia).
In summary, all businesses are run by bean counters. You can listen to your customers all you want, but if you are not making a profit, you won't be in business long. Also, it is unfair to put the global recession at the feet of GM. While they might not have been a nimble as a smaller manufacturer, they were just a victim of the s**t storm that the oil companies created.
Hmmm, I never mentioned the word Camaro in any of my statements. And you are using the word "implying" which means that you are fabricating ideas of what I said. Never said anything about how one car compared to another. Just stated that I preferred a mid engine setup to a front one. Now go back to reading your car magazines!
I'm stirring up ****? I couldn't care less about corvettes. Again, just stated I preferred the mid engine setup. Enjoy your car.
All good points. Thanks.
But:
Complexity is only an issue for GM because they can't do it reliably - The GM rep basically admitted that directly to me (see my earlier post).
VVT is a HUGE plus, but if GM can't do DOHC, then VVT will be an even bigger liability.
A shorter engine is non-plus if you need to stack a blower on top.
And, if you think about it, the HP and torque numbers aren't really that impressive considering it's just a blown small block V8.
Also, where are the power and torque curve specs published? Chevy doesn't want customers to know. BMW includes RPM ranges in their web published specs.
Again, I use to be a Chevy guy because my Chevys NEVER left me on the side of the road. But they had TONS of other stupid problems that were just too much of a hassle. So I upgraded to a brand that also kept me out of the repair shop so often.
GM warranties may have decent numbers, but because of their garbage reputation they should all be 10 year, 100k mi. And I would also suggest to GM that they implement an overnight "Driveway" warranty service: If the car has an issue, I press the handy on-star button, tell them what's wrong and where the car will be tonight. Then they pick it up, fix it, and return it by early morning. Only then will I ever consider another GM product.
Wrong,
you made a false statement then have been backtracking the last 6 pages while everyone took turns saying you are talking out your ass.
Mostly I just think you drive as well as you debate.
ahhh you got hurt feelings. Poor baby.
And the funny part is how much effort you're putting into this...
yeah, the 5 minutes invested really killed my downtime today in fact I totally ruined my schedule for you.
can we get a pink corvette and understeer off the grand canyon together holding hands listening to heart?
Which is why I stopped responding.. Ignorance is truly bliss for some, and seems like its FBR at this point !
So let me get this right.
1. Whatever is actually parked in your garage isnt comparable at all to the ZR-1.. which is why you avoided the question. You dont ever have to answer the question.. but you do know that I am telling the truth. I'm always amazed at people like you are who quick to berate another vehicle, but literally own/drive something much less desirable.
2. "A GM rep at a major auto show". Really?? That is the evidence you have provided that the LT5 is not reliable engine. Even so.. newflash Mr. Engineer: every pushrod V8 has absolutely "less maintenance issues" than any DOHC 32V V8.. because its a much simpler design.
3. The ZR-1 was a freaking top-of-the-line sports car. It was literally called the "King of the Hill". Exactly what about makes you consider the power "useable". Have you ever even drove one.. or is this just more spiel that you have made up? When the ZR-1 was released it was one of the top 5 performance cars in the world. Thats why it was a big deal and thats why people wanted one. Not because the power was "un-useable".
And stop with GM hate. They innovate incredibly well. That have an outstanding line up of gas & diesel, naturally-aspirated/turbo/supercharged, variable valve timing, direct fuel injection, cylinder deactivation lineup of I4/V6/V8 engines that are all class leading in power, weight, reliability & fuel efficiency. Furthermore every GM vehicle sold since 2007 came with a 5year/100,000 mile powertrain warranty.. something you will NEVER see the Germans or Japanese doing.
Go back to driving the Camry or Accord thats actually parked in your garage.. instead of trolling a Corvette Z06 thread.
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Wow, you like to get personal. Again, you think you know what's in my garage.. strange..
I have an 18 year old BMW in my garage. It only has needed FOUR repairs in that 18 years (outside of regular maintenance). Each has required only 1 day in the shop. It has lower (track time + shop time) numbers than any Corvette ever made!
I also have a seven year old 4 Runner in my garage, which I lifted a few years ago. It has only had ONE problem in those seven years - a seeping water pump that was replaced under warranty before it leaked significantly.
I never said the LT5 was not reliable -because- the fact is Lotus UK designed it because GM was not capable (ouch). Also, The DOHC engine in my BMW has a lifetime timing chain. It never needs replacement. There are good and bad DOHC designs - GM is not the only incompetent car company.
I test drove the current Vette at the time (C5), before buying my BMW. The Vette was a squeaking, rattling POS!!!
Also stored in my garage is an 8+ inch stack of repair paperwork from my last GM vehicle, including several anti-lock break modules, A/C compressors, an engine, then re-machining the valve seats on the replacement engine (so much for GM OHV), countless oil leaks, rusted through fenders, etc, etc....
I don't care about GM warranty numbers - they are just a marketing scam to give the illusion of quality. I'd much rather not visit the shop for repairs. Visiting the shop for repairs is a very strange form of brand loyalty brainwashing that US car companies have somehow managed to pull off. But GM relies on ignorance, and government bailouts to stay in business.
I can hate GM hate as much as I want because even though I was able to keep their POS cars out of my garage (after being screwed as customer), the jerks were able to steal from my wallet anyway via the government bailout. So if I'm forced into a stockholder relationship via government fiat, I can deride them as much as I want.
Speaking of ignorance, have you found any published specs on the Z06 HP/Torque RPM ranges?
Are you looking for tech specs, HP/TQ graphs, etc., for the Gen V LT4?
On the GM media site:
http://media.chevrolet.com/media/us.../Aug/0820-8speed/0820-compact-powerhouse.html