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First-Day Mac App Store Downloads Top 1 Million

Winni said:
I really don't get this argument. What was with difficult with using Google and downloading an image file and dragging it to the Applications folder? Right. Nothing.

The only thing that the AppStore makes simple is spending money on downloads. I find it extremely cumbersome to find a good(!) app for a specific purpose in this mess of a database - ahem, store - and I cannot even try it before a purchase.
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Downloading is easier. People spends money for apps whether they go to the Dev website or to the App Store.

The App Store however makes it easy to find apps. Maybe is easier for you to look for an app through the web, and then check whether is a .dmg or .exe file, some people are not good at this.

About the demo, is better this way. No shareware, trial or beta to flood the store. The dev can write in the description of the app to fo to their website to try it - is their fault if don't do that.
For example PopCap has Bejewled 3 on the App Store but they didn't say anything about the trial they have right in the home page of their website.
 
guzhogi said:
Appleinsider reports that within 9 hours, the DRM was already bypassed. Looks like many apps just look to see if it has a valid receipt, not whether the receipt belongs to that app & person. Could get a lot more money if developers took the 5-10 minutes needed to do proper receipt checking.
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Small White Car said:
Ok, well that's not really 'hacked.'

If you don't build a door on your house you can't really say I 'broke in' when I walk through the empty frame.

(Tresspassing, perhaps, but not 'broke in.')

I point it out because there really is a big difference between that and if the DRM actually was hacked.
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That better?
 
guzhogi said:
That better?
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It's different. It's more acurate.

I'm not sure that I can qualify what's "better" or not. But that's not what I was trying to do.

EDIT: But, yeah, I guess it is "better" that someone forgot to lock the door. Because now they can go and lock it. That's better than learning that someone else has a key becaue then you have to change the lock which takes more effort than just locking a door. So if something is easier I suppose that is 'better.'
 
I know that after 15 minutes, your id will expire and you'll need to enter it again to purchase another app but it was posted that you had to enter it for multiple downloads?
 
matkap said:
I think mac os x needs more free application.

Apart from this, mac app store is really cool. Finding/downloading and installing an app is now very easy.
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However unistalling is not. I tried to uninstall Alfred and even following their instructions http://help.alfredapp.com/uninstalling/ I could not get it to work.

The icon is still there and the App is still running in the background, however you can not see it in the Force Quit menu. When you think it is completely closed down and you drag the icon to trash it says you can't delete it because it is open.

What is the best way to unistall applications on a Mac?

Also, certain Apps like Caffeine are very poorly done. There is no way to tell if it is "activated" or not. The icon does absolutely nothing to show you whether or not it is working. Tried to unistall this one also and no dice.

Seems like there are some early issues with the Mac App store or am I missing something?
 
-FlyAuburn- said:
However unistalling is not. I tried to uninstall Alfred and even following their instructions http://help.alfredapp.com/uninstalling/ I could not get it to work.

The icon is still there and the App is still running in the background, however you can not see it in the Force Quit menu. When you think it is completely closed down and you drag the icon to trash it says you can't delete it because it is open.

What is the best way to unistall applications on a Mac?

Also, certain Apps like Caffeine are very poorly done. There is no way to tell if it is "activated" or not. The icon does absolutely nothing to show you whether or not it is working. Tried to unistall this one also and no dice.

Seems like there are some early issues with the Mac App store or am I missing something?
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did you drag to your trash from applications folder or dock? Should do it from the folder. Try doing a force quite on the application if still running. Then drag from Applications folder.
 
-FlyAuburn- said:
However unistalling is not. I tried to uninstall Alfred and even following their instructions http://help.alfredapp.com/uninstalling/ I could not get it to work.

The icon is still there and the App is still running in the background, however you can not see it in the Force Quit menu. When you think it is completely closed down and you drag the icon to trash it says you can't delete it because it is open.
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Their instructions left something out. If you remove it from the startup options like they said to do, the next time you restart your Mac it won't start and then you can throw it away. They should mention that on their instructions.

But if you want to hurry it up, search for 'Activity Monitor' and find the process in there. There should be a button on the top of that monitor that lets you force quit anything.

Then you can throw it away.

This type of app is unique because it's made to be mostly invisible while it runs. For the majority of apps, quit-n-trash-it is all you need to know.
 
Winni said:
Well, I don't trust Apple anymore, and I think that it will eventually happen, in one way or the other. Maybe not this year, and maybe not with Lion, but somewhere down the road. And most of Apple's customers won't care or even notice, because everything is "so convenient and safe".
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Yeah... just like they've done with music and videos... oh wait, I can add music and video from other sources other than Apple????

Personally, I think you're being paranoid. I think you mistake Apple's charge to make using and owning a Mac easier, as well as making customers more accessible for developers as a ultimate scheme to lock out all other sources of content. Not going to happen. Too many applications that just don't fit the model for mass distribution or distribution this way and people want choices too. Apple knows this... but Apple also knows it has the advantage of being able to touch 100% of it's customers too.

More than anything, the App Store for the Mac is going to really benefit the developer community and the end users. Easier for both. But, if someone wants to build a better store (Like Amazon has tried for music and video) have at it.
 
JayInNJ said:
did you drag to your trash from applications folder or dock? Should do it from the folder. Try doing a force quite on the application if still running. Then drag from Applications folder.
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From the applications folder. I know dragging it from the dock just removes it from the dock. And like I said, it doesn't appear in the Force Quit list but when you try to drag it from the Applications folder it says you can't delete it because it is "open". This makes no sense and it feels like they have intentionally made it difficult to delete their App. Not cool!
 
This was such a great idea, I'm hoping apple offers some bundles here like mac heist & gives us a chance to purchase a few goodies at a discount price. Hats off to apple again. Thanks for aperture at $79:D
 
Small White Car said:
Their instructions left something out. If you remove it from the startup options like they said to do, the next time you restart your Mac it won't start and then you can throw it away. They should mention that on their instructions.

But if you want to hurry it up, search for 'Activity Monitor' and find the process in there. There should be a button on the top of that monitor that lets you force quit anything.

Then you can throw it away.

This type of app is unique because it's made to be mostly invisible while it runs. For the majority of apps, quit-n-trash-it is all you need to know.
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Thanks, that sounds like the missing info I needed. I'll try it as soon as I get home. At work right now on my crappy Dell PC. Lol
 
Dagless said:
No but they could refuse installation of anything not signed by Apple's App Store. Given Apple's recent clamping down it wouldn't surprise me if they went down this route. But I also don't see it ever happening.
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That wouldn't make any sense for Apple to do that. For example, I'm in the insurance business, we have software for Mac. So by your theory, I will be no longer able to use my Mac for my business since the software I run isn't on the MAS? Uh, no. That ain't gonna happen. Just remember there's a life outside of Angry Birds. There will be software made for Mac that may never end up on the MAS.
 
Sorry to be off topic here but I see a lot of people going gaga over the $80 Aperture that's in the Mac App store and was curious. I'm in need of a good photo editing software and don't really want to fork out the money for Photoshop. Would Aperture be a comparable/suitable replacement for Photoshop? My skills in photo editing are pretty basic so I wouldn't necessarily need ALL the bells and whistles but would like a software that had some.
 
I only grabbed the Twitter app yesterday but I'll spend some decent time (and money) on some apps this weekend. :D
 
Angry Birds suck. Like a giant, oversized Flash game, just not free. I'll have to give it a bad rating. Developers really need consider what to do with all the screen real estate and different input devices.
 
h1r0ll3r said:
Sorry to be off topic here but I see a lot of people going gaga over the $80 Aperture that's in the Mac App store and was curious. I'm in need of a good photo editing software and don't really want to fork out the money for Photoshop. Would Aperture be a comparable/suitable replacement for Photoshop? My skills in photo editing are pretty basic so I wouldn't necessarily need ALL the bells and whistles but would like a software that had some.
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Maybe Photoshop Elements is a better choice for you? Aperture is a great software, but it's more of a cataloging/processing RAW files than photo editing. Photoshop Elements is a stripped down basic version of Photoshop. I guess it would depend on what kind of editing you want to do on your photos.
 
h1r0ll3r said:
Sorry to be off topic here but I see a lot of people going gaga over the $80 Aperture that's in the Mac App store and was curious. I'm in need of a good photo editing software and don't really want to fork out the money for Photoshop. Would Aperture be a comparable/suitable replacement for Photoshop? My skills in photo editing are pretty basic so I wouldn't necessarily need ALL the bells and whistles but would like a software that had some.
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Look at what it doesn't do first:

Aperture is not about selecting objects in a photo and cutting them out. It's not about adding text to the image. It's not about taking a dog and making it into 2 dogs or changing a cat purple or moving clouds around in the sky.

So it's not about photo manipulation.

It IS all about photo editing in the good old-fashioned sense of the word. Cropping. Color correcting. Brightness, contrast, black & white levels, & tints. Blemish removal. Sharpening. Rotating. VERSIONS...so you can edit a photo 6 different ways and save all 6 together (without using up much hard drive space since it only saves the photo + all the filter info).

It's also about organizing. Keywords. Bins. Ratings by stars and by color. Searches. Library splitting or combining.

That's the short run-down but the basic way of saying it is that Photoshop is for graphic designers and Aperture is for Photographers. That's overly simple...real pros will probably own both...but if you're just going to buy one, look at it that way. Which way do you see yourself?

(And as for the "own both" sentiment, sure you're not a pro, but you can still own 2 things. I'd suggest paying more for one and going cheap on the other. So either do "iPhoto + Photoshop Express" or go for "Aperture + Pixelmator." Just figure out which half is the more important half to you and spend more there.)
 
Daschund said:
Maybe Photoshop Elements is a better choice for you? Aperture is a great software, but it's more of a cataloging/processing RAW files than photo editing. Photoshop Elements is a stripped down basic version of Photoshop. I guess it would depend on what kind of editing you want to do on your photos.
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Yeah I just do real basic photo editing...nothing fancy. I'll take a look at Elements and see if that's more my thing. Thanks.

Small White Car said:
Look at what it doesn't do first:

Aperture is not about selecting objects in a photo and cutting them out. It's not about adding text to the image. It's not about taking a dog and making it into 2 dogs or changing a cat purple or moving clouds around in the sky.

So it's not about photo manipulation.

It IS all about photo editing in the good old-fashioned sense of the word. Cropping. Color correcting. Brightness, contrast, black & white levels, & tints. Blemish removal. Sharpening. Rotating. VERSIONS...so you can edit a photo 6 different ways and save all 6 together (without using up much hard drive space since it only saves the photo + all the filter info).

It's also about organizing. Keywords. Bins. Ratings by stars and by color. Searches. Library splitting or combining.

That's the short run-down but the basic way of saying it is that Photoshop is for graphic designers and Aperture is for Photographers. That's overly simple...real pros will probably own both...but if you're just going to buy one, look at it that way. Which way do you see yourself?
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Actually, I'm a little bit of both. Primarily photo manipulation as well as the categorizing/organizing aspect. But, for me, I think iPhoto takes care of my needs for the categorizing part just fine.
 
JayInNJ said:
I doubt that amounts to $120 of costs, which is the difference in the store and online cost yesterday. Maybe $2-3 in cost when done at a large scale.
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So you think the overhead on the physical media is less then a gallon of gas, in comparison to the digital distribution. Materials cost, package, shipping boxes, instruction booklets, disks. Cost to get the factory to stamp the disks. Then they need to fly (gas) from China to their destination country, then take a truck (gas) from the airport to a warehouse (rent), where they get sent on another truck (gas) to get to the store (rent) where they will be sold, the person that will sell you (wages) the product.

Yeah, that comes out to about $3 per unit over the cost of a server farm, which was probably already in use.
 
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